We start everything with the name of Allah, not "in the name of Allah", sir. We are not Mollaas like you are. We do not start gathering with you reciting some Verse of Qoraan. If you say so, you are a liar.
Aziz Huq <azizhuq@hotmail.com> wrote:
We start everything in the name of Allah. Besides that, Quran is a reminder about one's responsibility, care, love, compassion for others. The Khutbah recited in Muslim marriages are according to the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (SWS). To be effective, the recitation needs to be followed by a translation, which is not often done in Bangladesh. Even with out understanding, the words of the Quran has the power to soften the hearts of a believer.
Islam encompasses all the virtues you mention. Islam is also love, compassion, kindness, forgiveness, justice, personal responsibility. humility, humbleness, modesty, charity, seeking knowledge, protecting the environment, taking care of parents, the sick and the poor and many others.
But it is not true that the five pillars have been invented by the Mullahs. Please open any book on the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (SWS) you will find one of the most famous Hadith attributed to Jibril (AS) whereby you will learn about the 5 pillar of Islam, 6 pillar of Iman, the definition of Ehsan.
Please do an exercise: Go to Google and type in "The Hadith of Jibril". How many do you want to see? There are many, all narrated by aythentic scholars of Islam. If you want to look at the original Sahih Muslim or Bukhari then go to Vol 1 Hadith# 18-21 (Muslim) and Bukhari Vol #1, Hadith#7. Do you want more proofs that this is not invented by Mullas.
This is not a forum to discuss Islam but I have learned in a long and hard way as to how Islam can benefit an individual, families and our society.
Aziz Huq
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:48:31 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] I Do Not Know This Bangladeshi Culture
May I beg to ask, why every gathering of Moslims has to start with recitation of Qoraan, when no Wedding in the days of my Holy Prophet used to start with Recitation of Qoraan?If this is just to make us all sancticized of all our Sins, this practice is vile, conniving and cheating. You do not become a better Moslim by starting every gathering with recitation of Qoraan, when you are one of the most corrupt nations on earth, sir.The Basics of Islam are not Mollaa created 5 Pillars of Islam that have never been mentioned as 5 Pillars of Islam by Allah in Qoraan. The Basics of Islam are ...1. Not lying.2. Not Cheating.3. Not Stealing.4. Not Robbing.5. Not Coveting.6. Not Killing anybody unless at a State Declared JehaaD against the Enemies of Allah, who want to kill you.7. Not extorting Bribes.8. Not offering Bribes.9. Not commiting Adultry.10. Not getting intoxicated.11. Not mistreating Non Moslims under your rule.12. Not insulting gods or leaders of other Religions.13. Believing that God is one and He knows, what's in your Hearts.14. All Moslims are same without any prejudice of color, race and Ethnic Background.
Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
I am in partial agreement with Aziz Huq's complaints against the malaise of 'opo-sangskriti' at certain wedding ceremony gatherings in Bangladesh and in amongst the diaspora. I have tried to sample some of the Indian soap opera fares that my female relatives and houeholders guzzle on TV. I found them to be boring (devoid of true to life drama) and pathetically lacking in any heuristic substance or moral-elevating message like we used to get in old Bangla cinemas.However, unlike Aziz Huq, I have no memory of attending any wedding celebration, in recent times or ever, here in Dhaka or anywhere else, where I found ' weddings starting with the recitation from the Quran with translation, proper arrangements for prayer..., etc' Perhaps he got it mixed up with his memory of attending a 'kulkhani'.It must be mentioned here that nowadays there is a rich pool of Bangladesh's own band-music that is fast replacing the usual imports from Bollywood in popular demands at 'gaye holud' and wedding ceremonies. This 'band-music' is often a fusion of folk songs of Bengal in modern , pop and rock rhythm arrangements, sometimes using innovative lyrics by talented artists. This is part and parcel of any culture's youthful vitality and I would be an obstinate clod to call it un-Bangladeshi.Aziz Huq seems particularly aggrieved by a 'diregard for Islam' by Bangladeshi Muslims at such social events. Yet, the influence of Bollywood and Indian soap opera chic is most prominently displayed in the following web-site that proudly proclaims an ardent 'regard' FOR Islam!A bit ironic, a bit of a hoot, but here it is for folks to judge for themselves:===================== ========= == Please find this useful link below.Thanks, Shafiqur RahmanHow Bollywoody can you get?
Farida Majid
From: azizhuq@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:34:41 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] I Do Not Know This Bangladeshi Culture
I DO NOT KNOW THIS BANGLADESHI CULTURE
The music was blaring so loudly that I could not talk to the next person. The couples were swinging violently to the tune. I was way back of the room and the words I heard of the MC were not very clear. I could not figure out if she was speaking in Bangla, Hindi or English. Same was with case with the songs being played.Earlier, arranging for the evening prayer was a challenge. We were given a spot by the side of the corner room where food was later served. The Adhan was called. A very small number responded.A friend of mine sitting in my table simply made a comment: "It looks like we need to learn Urdu or Hindi to understand what is going on".Other persons sitting in my table were two young men, one from Egypt and the other from Iran. Both second generation immigrants and fully Americanized. Both left the party long before food was served. I had lengthy and interesting conversation with them. One of them asked me if the ceremony was a typical Bangladeshi wedding.Yes, I was attending the wedding ceremony of a Bangladeshi couple both born in Bangladesh who came to the US very recently.I could not relate to any thing Bangladeshi or Islamic in any thing that I saw last night. Later when I explained my feelings and experience I was told that Bangladeshi weddings are like that now a days.Marriage is one of the most important institution in our society and as such this is regarded as a time to acquire blessing and good wishes from the family members and friends. All I saw last night was indecent jokes, rough talks, loud music and vulgar dances.Is this the way we want our children to start the new phase of their lives?I have attended many weddings in this country where the guests were from diverse ethnic backgrounds, though mostly from the Indian sub-continent. I am used to weddings starting with the recitation from the Quran with translation, proper arrangements for prayer, sober introduction of family members, good food, sophisticated music some times Bangla, Urdu or Hindi classics. Besides Muslims, guests also include local American Christian and Hindus (both from India and Bangladesh).Yet last night the huge hall was mostly full of Banladeshi Muslims (with the exception of the two guests I just mentioned).I would request members of this forum who are dedicated member of all the scores of Bangladeshi associations to realize that in our zeal to hold on to Bangladeshi nationalism and our disregard for Islam we are losing our children to a cheap form of culture which is most unhealthy and far removed from the decent simple Bangladeshi culture we should be proud of.I fully understand that many people in our society are not very serious about Islam but to the best of my knowledge most people are very proud of our language. I left the wedding hall with this thought in my mind: why are our children turning to this cheap, vulgar, loud popular Bollywood (I was told that this is what it is called) culture. Where is the Bangla culture? I do not know this Bangladeshi culture.Aziz Ul HuqJuly 24, 2008
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