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Saturday, November 22, 2008

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [V Day] Bangladesh not mentioned in "16th December Victory Day" News in Indian Media

There is no historical basis in the claimed three million casualties
in the liberation war of Bangladesh in 1971. That makes an average of
more than 11,000 a day. It is likely that a secretary of the Shaikh
might mis-translate lakh into a million. The amity that Bangladesh
maintains with Pakistan does not testify to such a a large casualty
either. Vietnam war continued for about 20 years, and had that kind
of deaths. The United States and vietnam needed over twenty years to
have first diplomatic contact after the war ended. Our 'father of the
nation' did not even need twenty months to hobnob with Bhutto.

On 11/22/08, "Mauno" <"Mauno"> wrote:
> There was some criticism to the 2006 December write-up. I had missed
> them. Late as it may be I thought as 16th December, this year, is
> close I might say some things:
>
> I would like to thank those who responded especially those who
> understood the intent of the article.
>
> Unfortunately, some are too grateful to the Indians and might feel
> it is pro-muslim or pro-pakistan propaganda to criticize India. I
> feel the truth should be revealed whether it goes against India or
> Pakistan or even Bangladesh. Biplob P may think the original article
> might have been religiously motivated so I would like to inform him
> that the author of the article does not cater to any religion.
> Biplob P also attacks Ershad's media -- but, though true, it is
> irrelevant to the article. He says Rediff does justice and thus
> feels Indian media is exonerated. Rediff, though commendable, does
> not reach the near billion population of India... nor the 6 billion
> around the world. The fact remains that outside Bangladesh the war
> of liberation is belittled and called an Indo-Pak conflict and
> Indian media collectively propagates this myth. It is not right to
> deny India's failure to give Bangladesh's due credit. May be, this
> year, Biplob can write in Indian newspapers describing the war as
> Bangladesh's liberation war. I believe, he too is proud of the
> liberation war.
>
> Besides this, Bangladeshis sacrificed greatly in 1971 and until
> Indians stop trying to edit history, belittling the Bangladeshis'
> efforts, Bangalis have no obligation to give any credit to India. If
> India was such a friend during the war then why can't Indians admit
> the truth and say that the war was a Bangladeshi Liberation War in
> which Bangalis on both sides were united and which at the last
> moment they entered and lost 14,000 soldiers. AND 3 million Bangalis
> had died in their valiant effort. Hundreds of thousands were raped --
> all in the name of religiously purifying the country.
>
> Then Bangalis will not have any objection giving them due respect.
> (In fact, they already give recognition.) The main point is that the
> Bangalis are kept divided by the British game that is being
> perpetuated by such things. 1971 was a point that brought them
> together... It should be hailed -- not pushed under the rug.
>
> Bangalis thank Indians and give them their due. Bangalis should also
> realize the truth of the extent of India's support and the extent of
> self reliance. Bangalis also have the right to explore the factors
> motivating the Indian government.
>
> On the other hand, Bangalis' respect should be ensured by India if
> India was a friend. I urge Biplob and others to help make Indian
> media to do a better job this year. Thanks to Rediff but a better
> performance is expected from the rest of Indian media. They need not
> be pro-Bangla but pro-truth. If they have to talk about Bangladesh's
> liberation war then they should be respectful.
>
> Che
>
>
> --- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "Mauno" wrote:
>>
>> I do not know if the following will be published. This might
> scathe
>> a lot of people's feelings... well truth is often bitter! I am
> going
>> to go against the beliefs held by most people. False history
> written
>> by victors have created false beliefs in most people. I hope that
>> Bangalis will break free of these false beliefs and recall their
>> true glory.
>> ---
>>
>> Indian media and news recalled the glorious 16th December today.
>> They remembered it as THEIR victory day against Pakistan. They
> call
>> it their victory in the "Indo-Pak War" and there is no mention of
>> Bangladesh at all! No mention of the enormous struggle and
>> sacrifice -- no mention of the Pakistani genocide or the valiant 9
>> month liberation war that the people of Bangla had waged against
> the
>> Jihadi Pakistanis!
>>
>> On one NEWS channel in India they showed the original footage from
>> Bangladesh with the original revolutionary flag of Bangladesh
> flying
>> but why do you think they did not even mention Bangladesh?
>>
>> WHY IS THE INDIAN MEDIA TRYING TO HIDE THE TRUTH? Is it because
> they
>> don't have the same glory -- because they did not have to earn
> their
>> independence at such a high price as Bangladesh! The British may
>> have GIVEN India independence but Bangladesh had to EARN it!
>> Bangalis fought and the Vietnamese fought against militarily
>> superior enemies and they earned their victories. India did not
> have
>> to do the same. Are they jealous or is it part of a larger scheme?
>>
>> Most Indian Subcontinentals may have forgotten but Mukto-Monas
>> should remember that, in fact, it was the Bangalis who fought for
>> Indian independence too before the polite British handed over
> power
>> to their friends and cut up the Bangla country and divvied it up
>> between India and Pakistan! What are the Indians trying to hide --
>> glory of Bangla lest the deculturized Bangalis of both Bengals and
>> elsewhere suddenly wake up and realize they are one nation and
>> recall their glorious roots? Already most Bangalis have forgotten
>> past glory... Do they want Bangalis forget their most recent
> history
>> too? Do they want to destroy further the nationhood of Bangla?
>>
>> Now here is a bit of history that I am sure many will be unaware
> of
>> and will be react against. Mukto-Monas should know the following
> if
>> they are truly Mukto-Monas.
>>
>> According to de-classified files of the US, the Indian ambassador,
>> Singh, had met a US official before India entered into the war.
>> There both had agreed that Bangladesh's independence was a mere
>> eventuality but Bangladesh would be under the control of forces
> not
>> under their control -- meaning the leftists. Singh had said that
>> they wanted Awami League in power and Mujib was optional. Then
> India
>> entered the war directly (only in December, a fortnight before
>> victory)... So were their intentions so honourable? According to
>> both the US and India and Ataul Goni Osmani and other real leaders
>> of the liberation war, independence was inevitable even before
> India
>> entered the war. Why then do you think India entered the war?
>>
>> And then why do you think Pakistan was not made to surrender to
> the
>> valiant Bangalis who had fought so hard and was poised for victory
>> without the Indians? Now do not repeat that story of a high
> ranking
>> officer! The Pakistanis were surrendering -- why should they
> dictate
>> conditions?
>>
>> More History that is forgotten:
>> Indians avoided clashing with the Pakistani forces and were guided
>> safely to Dhaka by freedom fighters. They had one major battle
> with
>> the Pakistanis and 14000 Indian troops died in total. Compare that
>> to the 3 million Bangalis who died! It is very criminal of India
> to
>> hog all credit for victory.
>>
>> According to Ataul Goni Osmani, the supreme commander of the pro-
>> Awami + allies Muktibahini, Bangladesh was close to victory before
>> the Indians had arrived and that his guerrillas were already
>> entering Dhaka. There were other Mukti guerrilla groups also
>> entering Dhaka at the time. Pakistan was on the defensive by then.
>>
>> AND when the Pakistanis surrendered India MADE SURE that they
>> surrender to the Indians and not the Bangladeshis. Osmani said in
> an
>> interview that he was kept in the dark about the imminent
> surrender
>> of Pakistan and was deliberately kept away from Dhaka by the
>> Indians. AND HERE IS SOMETHING that not many know: There was an
>> attempt on Osmani's life on the 16th December! AND NO, Osmani does
>> not suspect the Pakistanis for this attempt!
>>
>> There was a conspiracy... Open your eyes and don't cheat
> yourselves
>> by rejecting this as another conspiracy theory! Bangladeshis have
>> been lied to long enough.
>>
>> The world does injustice to Bangladesh's glorious war and
> Pakistan's
>> henious Jihadi genocide. Go to India and the rest of the world.
>> Their history of Bangladesh's independence avoids recording the
>> liberation war and the genocide. They record it mostly as a war
>> between India and Pakistan and that India gave Bangladesh the gift
>> of independence... that is how the world knows Bangladesh's 1971!
>> The blood and sacrifice of millions won Bangladesh's independence,
>> it was not not a beggarly gift from anyone!
>>
>> dam diye kinechhi bangla
>> karo dane pawa noy
>> dam diechhe lokkho koti
>> jana achhe jogotmoy
>>
>> The lines above are from a song. They say that Bangla
> (independence
>> of country) was earned by lives of millions not by someone's
> charity
>> and that this fact is known worldwide. Unfortunately it is not
> known
>> much beyond the borders of Bangladesh. Even in West Bengal the
> glory
>> of 1971 is devalued by their belief that India GAVE Bangladesh her
>> independence.
>>
>> Resist this cultural war against Bangla! The people of the world
>> should be made aware -- Bangalis should be made aware! It is not
>> ignorance or jealousy of India. It is a bid to make Bangalis of
> East
>> and West Bangla and other Indian states like Tripura, Sikim etc.
>> ignorant of their nationhood.
>>
>
>
>

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