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Wednesday, January 14, 2009

RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League- Hindus India connections

This has been one of the shocking responses ever I had from the readers. Yes, I am referring to Kareem871. It is a shining example of our nature that we are often lazy to dig deep. When did I say that the Hindus has lesser rights? I challenge u to prove that. I rather said:
 
Hindus are being forced to lave Bangladesh owing to attacks and atrocities against them often from religious fanatics;
 
It is against Islam to discriminate them owing to their faith as far as mother land is concerned.
 
Some people are so brainwashed with garbage that whenever they see someone religious or pro-Islamic rulle -that they quickly box them in Jamaat or Terrorism or even as a blind religious zealot. Sorry that is not going to work with me. I am absolutely pro-Islam but still religiously against Jamaat e Islami's stand during liberation war and also against any religious or non-religious terrorrisms by Muslims, Jews (in Gaja), Christians (against African slaves) or atheists (Stalin against Russians).
 
Please change the habit of making generalised quick responses before reading through the matter completely. This habit has turned our national Parliament into a Whim box of quarrels.
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate



To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: kareem871@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:20:50 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League- Hindus India connections


 
Did it ever cross your mind that a Hindu has exactly the same God-given right to stay in Bangladesh that you and I have?
They have lived here for generations, in some cases for centuries and yet you accuse them of having a second homeland in India.
 
Should that not tell you that they are discriminated against in this land. No one leaves his home and hearth of his own sweet will and if some of them have been forced to migrate that speaaks bad of us for not giving them their due rights.
 
Let us not think of people as Hindus or Muslims but as human beings, who all deserve to be treated fairly and with respect.
 
Thanks,

To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: haquetm83@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:08:24 -0800
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League- Hindus India connections

Subject has changed from price drop to elite hindus- I hate to base my judgment on communal or racial ground though, please read the following -
 
When I need to raise an issue favouring a Bihari, first question comes, is he going to stay here (in Bangladesh) answer is 'very doubtful' or 'No'.
I ask the question for Hindus in my area, is he trying to migrate or he has relatives there (in India)
 
Both of these question have same outcome - there link and base mostly is not here.
 
-   I heard this story from a friend who says he witnessed himself - the daughter of a BNP's hindu leader saying to her father - amader Kolkata....
 
-   In a small town a goldsmith familly lived for few generations, recently they were three  brothers, these days they are only two engaged in the same profession in the anchestor's land. All their earnings were siphoned out and with that the other brother got settled in India and still get financed from the remaining two brothers here, who still live in a same small old house.
 
-  If you go to my home town(mostly a common scenario) many big cloth merchants, cereal stockists, sweat meat shops owned by the hindus (marwaries). Over the years they expanded on their stocks only but the shop building or their own houses are still what their parents used to live. Where do their profit goes, why don't they build their homes, buy cars? If you go deep you will see - 'amader kolkatai' gese shob.
 
-   Around my village those who have government jobs they still live here and maintain their houses, others on the move.  
 
-   Biharies who own big shops in Nowabpur or elsewhere, you can find same like hindus they have their strong connection and link with Pakistan.
When it may be true that they have their reason to have strong link with thier cherished land but upto what extents can Bangladesh economy and its political science accepts their actions in the society?
 
Do not judge under North American or European context, however they already have problem with the migrants and their strong mechanism can control things in greater extent.
 
 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 12:12 PM

 is worth a look..
 
http://www.allbusin ess.com/governme nt/international -organizations- bodies/7850921- 1.html
 
Nevertheless, the issue is Bangladeshi Hindu citizens who were victims of atrocities or are in fear of their safety and security have been either holding or are trying to hold Indian passporrts since early 1990s.
 
Mufassil Islam



To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: rkhundkar@earthlink .net
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:41:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League


Who are these Hindu elite? <----Please let us know, How do you know? Provide sources and information that can be independentaly corroborated and audited.
India does not allow dual citizenship for any country.

Where are you getting your information on muslims from West Bengal, i.e choked with communism <----it seems you are fantascist with third rate information

-----Original Message-----
From: habib rashid
Sent: Jan 9, 2009 11:25 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League

Dear Mr. Islam,
 
I protest your comments on the dual citzenship of our Hindu people. If some of us feel proud keeping the citizenship of UK, USA, Canada or any EU countries then what is wrong with Hindu people?
 
I am not sure if you have dual citizenship or not. Please try to avoid general comments without knowing the full scenerio.
 
- Habib

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail. com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Price Drop and Awami League
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 7:07 AM

Dear Readers,
 
The fact is, during Awami League rule, our love affair with India grows stronger. I bet 100% that most of the Hindu elites of the country has had strong ties with West Bengal as they have family ties there and some even have based their businesses there. I am aware of many who even hold dual Indian and Bangladeshi passports and it is true as well that BNP-Jamaat alliances have not done anything to ensure security of the minority during their rule which resulted in oppressions on them by religious fanatics inmbubed with political motives. But this is nothing compared to atrocities on Muslims in India. West Bengal has systematically choked Islam there in the name of Communism. The temples still allows loud kirtons when Azan is banned. Even though Aazan with loud speakers has nothing to do with Islam. Awami League is a wing of Indian Congress and ppl who have eiwther no experience of their rule or ppl who have been following Awami League owing to their devotion to Mujib often fail to realise that. I am not against good relationship with India but I cannot sing the song of romance when I see India does not compromise with its unfair trade-balance with us. The cross border security is relaxed and smuggled Indian items flood the country at a cheaper rate ruining the local producers. If anyone does a research on the regular items it becomes obvious that mainly Indian items have flooded the country pushing the supply UP and prices DOWN and we will easily see that the country gets flooded with black money which will definitely give rise to criminal activities in the society. We buy our rice at the cost of our personal security. There is no other explanation of dropping the price so fast. Imagine!
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate


To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: kareem871@hotmail. com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:15:31 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory

What a shallow analysis of BNP's election debacle.
 
Keep it up and BNP will cease to exist - Inshallah.
 
NB: As an aside, as one who claims to be a human rights advocate your reference to Munni Saha was irreverent and absolutely unnecessary.
Likewise, if you expect to be taken seriously, you must stick to your analysis professionally without making crude remarks like Jalil being a drunkard.




To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mufassili@hotmail. com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:05:21 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory

Dear Readers,
 
The equation is very simple. The factors that played into Awami League's victory:
 
1. Awami League and BNP are originally almost at par with their number of supporters. Awami league's regular supporters did vote for Awami League as usual and they had no reason to love BNP - so Awami League grabbed the regular devoted votes;
 
2. The Swing Voters wanted to teach BNP a lesson for their corruption and had no other alternative than Mohajot as voting for BNP would have justified Tarek's corrupt practice - so they voted for alternative - ie., Awami League - having no other alternative;
 
3. The BNP supporters or activists were divided as to pro-change and anti-change groups, the defelctors like Bodrudouza and Oli gave reasons to the exploiters and anti-BNP lobbies reason to ponder upon BNP's coordination and disciplined approach;
 
4. BNP stalwarts or the pivotal leaders were kept behind the bars until the last few days on very simple cases which were easily bailable when Awami League had almost all their pivotal figures out of jail all the time (well even drunkard Jalil was out of jail);
 
5. Awami League had always supported the caretaker Govt and had promised to legalise their unconstitutional (although I think constitution itself has become a laugh) works if voted to power;
 
6. Hasina had a few anti-Jamaati Islamic groups in her pocket which got the votes of anti-Jamaati pro-Islamic ppl on their side and Hasian promised not to enact any anti-Islamic laws;
 
7. Ershad commands a few BNP votes as well owing to his military past;
 
8. New generation of voters did not have the experience of seeing Awami League's rule as adults rather they saw the corrupt rule of Tarek which made them anti-BNP and they read Awami League made ppl drink 'Vaater Fan' in drains from adults like us and they were too young to understand that Awami League always failed to control crime;
 
9. Awami League is better in price control when BNP is not good at that and owing to present price hike - ppl could not afford to take chances with any more price hike as that would have meant playing with starvation;
 
10. women voters were successfully convinced that BNP meant oppression on women;
 
11. The media which is ruled by Foortibaaj and Aamodi pro-Bollywood dedicated Amitabh loving reporters like Munni Shaha (who always talks for Hindu greats) ruled non-political channel news rooms like that of ATN and the so called cultural ppl are dying to have a amorous relationship with Indian medias to extend their workfield where Pakistan is a total failure;
 
12. Bangladesh is surrounded by Maoists and communists and Islam has been pocketed by idiots like JMBs and without true Islamic wise leaders - communism in the camouflage of secularism has taken root in newspapers;
 
13. Awami League banked on the issue of bringing the Jamaat leaders to war-tribunals when BNP owing to failure of its leaders (only Salauddin Qader recently accused Awami League of letting thousands of Pakistani soldiers leave the country without war compensations) could not successfully defend the issue with a counter challenge;
 
14. Hasina lobbied abroad (with kaaney betha issue) to win international support for Awami League when BNP concentrated on domestic support only.
 
Hence, I and many like me are not shocked or surprised at all at Awami League's win and I am sure the readers do recall I DID forecast this scenario even in this ALOCHONA online many months ago.
 
I NOW forecast that Awami League will become a good ruler as they may not act like BNP idiots but they will soon find out that Bangladeshi ppl are pro-Islamic when they will start enacting anti-Islamic India loving enactments and this will give rise to a wise and revolutionary Islamic power in Bangladesh with BNP at the helm.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate

To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: mkra12@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:20:44 -0500
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh stunned by Awami victory


The extraordinary support for AWL is definitely a mandate for change in the affairs of the country.
That change is not some quantitative change here & there  but fundamental change in the system of governance in the country. After all, they have the two third majority.
Can Sheikh Hasina & Awami League deliver that change?Can she liberate the country's folk from the yokes of colonial bureaucratic system of governance?
After everything settles down and the elected government begins functioning. The country will go back to the age old colonial system of governance,despite the overwhelming participation of the nation in the election.
From the Secreteriate to the Mahakuma offices, it's the non elected, non answerable bureaucrats who will be the supreme rulers of the day to day affairs of the country. The Minister is not the executive head of the Ministry but the Secretery. Ministers orders cannot be issued as Government orders unless approved by the Secretary. The scenario at the districts, Upozilla's, Cities & Mahakuma's are more bleak. There is zero representation of the public in the governance of those levels.
The notorious system that was devised by the colonial rulers to keep us under subjugation by our own people continues to this day, despite two independences.
   Hope her Government will  hand over the total administration of the Upozillas to the elected chairman & council members.She will face a lot of resistance from the bureaucracy by way of government rules & regulations but she has the backing of the vast majority as well as the two third majority to do and undo anything in the greater interest of the nation. All administrative powers which are excercised by the bureaucrats at those levels should be vested in the elected chairman & council of representatives. This will empower the Upozilla people to be their own rulers.They will truly be independent.
   Until & unless we establish Democracy,self rule at the grassroot levels Democracy will not have its foundation.Opinions of the majority  of citizens, their hopes & aspirations, likings ,dislikings will not be expressed in the affairs of the country, nor their support be of any strength to the elected government.
The handful of elected ministers at the center will be cut off from the people by way of the clandestine bureaucracy. Its imperative that we have elected local government.at the varios administrative levels;bureaucrats at these levels should be answerable to the elected local body.
The vast majority of Bangladeshi' s has shown the keen judgement of right & wrong by routing out the parties of anti liberation past & fundamentalist in nature.They also opted for the less corrupt of the two parties.
Is it too much to ask that these good majority will be allowed to be their own rulers?
 
Mizad








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