Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: A Horrendous Discovery

Mr. Raisuddin, thanks for your post. Unfortunately, there are more holes in your story than a slab of Swiss cheese. Here is why:

1. The "two nation theory" was not installed by the British. The two nation theory was developed and pursued by Jinnah and his cronies. If the British agreed with Gandhi on thing, it was that the entire population of India is one people, and should not be divided based on their race, color, or religion. Jinnah, however, had other plans. He realized that in an unified "Bharat", Gandhi would be revered and followed, and not him. Jinnah wanted a separate land for the Muslims, ruled by Muslims. That's precisely why, Jinnah is the founder of modern communal politics in the Indian sub-continent. If you have any doubts about this, please read the following:

a) Akber Ahmed's "Jinnah, Pakistan, and Islamic Identity: The search for Saladin"
b) Panigrahi's "India's Partition: The History of Imperialism in Retreat"
c) Wolpert's "Jinnah of Pakistan"
d) Yousuf's "Hidden Facts Behind British India's Freedom: A Scholarly Look into Allama Mashraqi and Quaid-e-Azam's Political Conflict"

All these books, as well as Jinnah's own letters and publications support that the Two Nation Theory was his thing. As a matter of fact, the British advised Gandhi and Jinnah against the Two Nation Theory. If you ever get a chance, check out the British East India Archive at the British Library.

2. Netaji's rising was a much later phenomenon than that of Gandhi's. Netaji was an elected member of the Indian National Congress, and he supported and advocated for Nazi ideologies in the Indian Sub-continent. He met with Hitler and Emperor Hirohito, and sought help to fight the British. In return, he was ready to establish totally fascist rule in the Indian sub-continent. You make it sound like Netaji was a "good man" who would have been better than Gandhi, who "obviously" was "installed by the British". Netaji was a nazi-sympathizer and a fascist, and known history and common sense tells me that Gandhi was NOT installed by the British to "screw over" the Muslims in the sub-continent. The Muslims got the sticky end of the deal because of Jinnah and the other Muslim League leaders.

3. Lord Mountbatten was not "rewarded" the governorship of India by Gandhi. That title and authority was the prerogative of the Queen of England. Mountbatten was the Viceroy of Burma, when he was assigned by the Queen to India to oversee the transition of power from the British to the Indians. 

4. No one kicked anyone away from the power, especially the Muslims. The Indian Congress during the partition had, in its leadership, prominent Muslims like Abbas Khan, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad, and Asaf Ali. In the current Indian National Congress Central Committee, there are Muslim leaders like Mohsina Kidwai, Ghulam Nabi Azad, and Saifuddin Soz. So, your assertion that the Indian congress, as well as the British, kicked away the Muslims and that the situation hasn't changed is factually wrong.

In order to become a part of the fast moving world, we need to think progressively and act strategically. We cannot distort history, facts, data, to advance our ideas and expect that the rest of the world is going to follow and respect us. Before we can join the world community, our thinking needs to be worldly, and not be stuck in racial and communal ideologies. Wouldn't you agree?

Cyrus

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From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:20:17 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: A Horrendous Discovery

Dear All,
 
Once upon a time, our previous generation screwed up all muslims of "Nikhil Bharat" spreading "two Nation Theory". Even though it was installewd solely by the colonial power jut keep the last grip on the land that was just going away from them by the thrust of "Netaji Shubhas Chandra Basu" and by the affect of "Second World War". Gandhi and Zinnah were installed by the British to decimate the revolutionary power of Netaji. Created a serious rift between Hindus and Muslims to solidify the "Divide and Rule" policy. Gandhi rewarded British providing Mount Baten as the Governor General of India. Muslims lost both "Am" and "Chala". British kicked them away because they could not do any favor to them because they were just the beggers of no means the land. Indian leaders manipulated the politics in such a way that they kept 100% of all and kicked away their trouble maker musalman enemies, whose upper chambers were totally vacant. It seems that it is still now remained in the same condition. No improvements are happening. Blindness and meaningless pride are stone waling all improvements. Did anybody think about all these? These trouble maker brainless musolmans (by the way I was born of the same) are still doing the same dirty practices that I hate by all means. Need to understand, need to stop all these, need to try to be players with all, rather than the king of woolu Bon. This is all coming from my frustrations. Can we come to sense and be part of the world population, giving away the isolationism of the crudest form? My two cents.
 
Thanks ,
KR
 

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To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:34:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: A Horrendous Discovery

So much for his "India Doctrine"! It's simple really.....spread rubbish, falsehood, create fear and paranoia, and do all these with a tinge of religion in it. ISI must be paying him well.

 

Thanks for the post Shamim bhai.

 

Cyrus

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From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com>
To: Shamim_Personal chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com>
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 11:39:36 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: A Horrendous Discovery

Who is who! It is very startling to see who is writing what in whose name and what purpose. Apparently, Isa Khan posted the article titled as A Horrendous Discovery, which claims to be written by villainous writer Delwar Mazumder. In his writing, Mr. Mazumder claimed, "The following facts, gathered from over a dozen of reliable sources, further corroborate that fact." Mr. Mazumder claim found to be nothing but hoax, which is as usual in his case. Every bit of his writing including semicolons, periods and commas in this posting are copied from a posting of none but Jamati ideologist Barrister (AKA Brigadier)  MBI MUNSHI in Pakistan Defense Forum. Please check this link to read MBI Munshi's posting from where a carbon copy of what Delwar Mazumder so-called research paper were produced from.   Link: http://www.defence. pk/forums/ world-affairs/ 22410-bangladesh -gunfight- bdr-headquarters -48.html   It looks like MBI Munshi, Delwar Mazumder and Isa Khan Trio are in the center of a clandestine group, which in an information war against Bangladesh in collaboration with Pakistan Defense Forum which is again nothing but clandestine web portal of notorious Pakistan military intelligence unit known as ISI.   Though there is absolutely no doubt in my mind about the falsehood in his writing but the purpose of my writing is not solely to unearth is fabrication. My writing is on my observation on this trio's falsehood on presumption of knowing everything and cleverly putting them into cyber space as research work when the fact is one writes on others filtered potty. There objective is to cleverly trick easy readers and lure them into buying ISI molded conspiracy theory which they bake from Pakistan Defense Forum bakery kitchen.   Regards Shamim Chowdhury   ============ ========= ========= ========= ====== --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@.. .> wrote: A Horrendous Discovery Investigators have learnt that a team of 25 trained foreign commandos entered Bangladesh illegally from India through various bordering areas on or within January 11, 2009 By Delwar Mazumder There are some dangerous clues about recent BDR horror killing.All that being part of history now, one wonders how it all happened, who did it, and why? While that is precisely the undertaking of the investigators who will unearth the real intent of the carnage and identify the culprits, the incident demonstrates a serious lapse in military intelligence. The following facts, gathered from over a dozen of reliable sources, further corroborate that fact. One: Investigators have learnt that a team of 25 trained foreign commandos entered Bangladesh illegally from India through various bordering areas on or within January 11, 2009. They were received and sheltered in Dhaka by individuals working under cover as diplomats. Two: At the same time, a small group of 10-12 BDR members, including two Deputy Assistant Directors (DADs), were recruited as the internal moles and coordinators to provide precise information to the foreign team via three senior political leaders of the country until the hours of the carnage. Three: The occasion for the operation was chosen carefully to ensure availability of all senior BDR officers who had gathered in Pilkhana for the annual BDR day celebration. . Over 3,000 extra troops also came to Pilkhana for various administrative duties as well as to launch a tattoo show for which the BDR has been historically famous. Four: The mutiny was slated for February 24, while the PM was in Pilkhana to take salute in the BDR day parade. In consideration of likely collateral harm to the political personalities and other dignitaries who accompanied the PM, the date was changed. However, final coordination and reconnaissance were done that day by some guests who attended the parade, masquerading as VIPs. Five: Upon conclusion of final reconnaissance, at about 10.30 PM, on February 24, a segment of the foreign killing squad and over 25 BDR soldiers - plus three young - leading politicians of the country - met in a briefing in one of suburban Dhaka residences. The precise timing of the operation and the responsibilities of each small group were decided in that meeting.. Six: As per plan, one of the DADs ensured that members of the BDR cell would be posted on duty on gate number 4 that morning when the DG would sit for the slated Darbar in the Darbar hall. Seven: On February 25, the D-day, the foreign commando team entered the Pilkhana compound through gate number 4, at 8.10 AM, using a BDR vehicle (Bedford) which the designated DAD had arranged to send for them about an hour ago. Dressed in sports gear (long camouflage trouser, vest, and PT shoe) - in order to be able to quickly change into civil clothes while fleeing after the massacre - the killers entered the Pilkhana compound undetected. Eight: The BDR vehicle that carried the killers was followed by an ash-colour pick up van which carried initially used arms and ammunition from outside. In order to begin the massacre, one of the Bengali speaking commandos, armed, was ordered to enter the Darbar hall without permission to engage the DG into a provoking altercation. Nine: Once the DG was shot, other officers, all unarmed, tried to obstruct the lone killer. Within seconds, the action group of the killer team entered the Darbar hall and started killing other officers while the cover up group cordoned the area. Ten: In the following hours, part B of the mission began by inducting other troops into the team under gun point and the armoury - as well as the intelligence equipments - was looted. The foreign killers and their local henchmen used BDR soldiers on gunpoint to show the locations of other officers, their families, and the offices where vital national security documents remained preserved. Highly classified border security maps, troop deployment plan and initial action plan, etc. were taken away by the foreign commandos. Eleven: Eyewitnesses say, two of the last foreign commandos - one male and one female - left the BDR compound in the afternoon on February 26, following the surrendering of arms by BDR members who knew nothing about the mutiny even a minute before. These two are presumed to be the leaders of the foreign commando team. None of the above could have been materialized if the two main national intelligence outfits of the country (DGFI and NSI) have had prior clues about what was being conspired to destroy the armed forces of the country. The foreign commandos took control of BDR's own intelligence outfit, RSU, at the initial stage and used RSU equipments to communicate among themselves during the mutiny. The commanding officer of RSU too was assassinated during the carnage. That aside, there were other intelligence lapses during the mutiny. In the more than 30 hours while the mutiny prolonged, neither the NSI, nor the DGFI, had any clue about who were being shot at and what exactly went on inside. They also ignored SMS messages from fellow officers, on ground that there was no order from the government to do anything. In reality, these two agencies were too busy, as they often are, in ensuring security to the VVIPs and VIPs; not the country and its vital institutions that they are oath-bound and mandated to serve and protect. http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/khabor/ message/18375     --- End forwarded message ---

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