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Wednesday, May 13, 2009

[ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad



Hi Cyrus:

I don't think the problem is with Mr. Wahid but you guys who brand pro-Bangladeshis as Rajakar, AlBadar, War Criminals, Jamatis etc and on the other and you think only BAKSAlite ultra-secularists are the sole agents of our glorious freedom fight. You don't even believe in Bangladeshi but Bengali nationalism. All Mr. Wahid was trying to make out is to request you to bring your allegations and prove it in court with all your evidence (which you claim you adequately have to incriminate so that the judiciary of our liberated country can convict them and punish. Nobody would oppose this. But you guys have a different mission (which is different from actual trial). It doesn't seem that your objective is to bring your alleged criminals to justice but to defame your ideological opponents. That's is what educated and cultured people find difficulties to accept in a civilized society. Why do you want us to believe so and so is a rapist or killer unless and until convicted by a court? Whom should we trust? The corrupt BAKSALite-BAList politicians (who are currently obviously proven culprits) or their opponents (who are otherwise with apparently cleaner life)? All courts in Bangladesh are open for you if you can prove and convict those Mawlanas as rapists, but please don't defile them until the courts convict them. In order to please the most culprit politicians of our time, we cannot disrespect those who are highly respected by the society for their honesty, dignity and virtues. Thanks. MS

 

From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009 2:08:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

Alochok Wohid,
 
In all fairness, I don't believe that Ratri, in any of his/her response, claimed that BAL supporters or Baksal supporters liberated Bangladesh. The response stated a "we", and I am of the opinion that the word meant Bengalis who fought for an independent Bangladesh sans rajakar et.al., without any party affiliation. I agree with you that we should wait till the court delivers judgement, but as you mention, our freedom of speech allows us to debate here, even if we strongly disagree with each other. And that disagreement has nothing to do with being a supporter of BAL or Bakshal.
 
On a separate note, I am not sure why educated people like yourself keep referring to pro-Bangladesh alochoks as BAL supporters or Bakshalists. Bakshal didn't exist until 1974, and has nothing to do with the independence of our country. Just as you said, many of your family members freedom fighters but not necessarily supporters of BAL or Bakshal. The same way, not every person who is against BNP or Jamaat is automatically a supporter of BAL.
 
Cyrus

From: Wohid <bidrohee@yahoo. com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:27:08 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

Hi Ratri: What do you mean by "we are the ones who liberated this country"? Do you refer to BALists/BAKSALites? My parents, fore parents and all relatives were supporters of BAL and many of them were freedom fighters but not necessarily BAL supporters any more. Do you think only BALists deserve freedom of speech, human rights and protection under the constitutionality and all BAKSAL/BAL opponents are war criminals and they don't even deserve to be even the citizens of the country??? That is the real picture of BAKSAL that the nation is scared of and that is what the father of the nation had to pay a price for... Stop your nonsense and please go to a court of competence if you believe that the judiciary of our liberated country is not still under Pak occupation. Any crimes including war crimes should be truly proven with appropriate punishment rather than barking against war crimes for political gain of BAKSALites. Regards. Wohid

 
From: "ratri@aol.com" <ratri@aol.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:25:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

For your information we are the ones who liberated this country
Where you now have the freedom of speech ,and can speak in bangla ,maybe you should be in swad defending your brothers and brutally inforce lawlessness and beat your own mother and sister for trying to improve themselves by educating themselves

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From: Wohid
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 06:31:16 -0700 (PDT)
To: <alochona@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

Well, please go to the court and let him face the justice if he is what you accuse him of. However, if you have rudimentary sense of decency and minimum respect to justice, constitutionality and human rights, you should remind yourself that a person should be presumed to be innocent unless and until proven and convicted guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction following due course of law. Who are you the hell to monger hatred and lies against him who is not even charged yet in any court of law???? That is the real character of an ultra-reactionist, ultra-secularist, neo-BAKSAlite extremist who are good for nothing for the nation but exclusively for their extremism in barbaric behavior. Again, you are kindly requested to go to a court with all your evidence rather than barking here. Best regards. W

From: "ratri@aol.com" <ratri@aol.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:43:43 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

Why are you so headstrong defending this vile of a person,moulana or no moulana ,if he os found guilty he should be hanged for the crime against humanity,may be defending the the rapist and murderer is your passion because of your ignorance and your indoctrination in a hateful party

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From: Cyrus
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:11:14 -0700 (PDT)
To: <alochona@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

If Bacchu Rajakar, one of the most vile individual that I had ever met is a "Islamic Scholar", then I should win a Nobel prize in every subject. You should really think about what is "Islamic" and who is a "scholar". "Curse on him"? What are you? the village priest or the holy pope? Why not demand an investigation to unearth the truth?

From: Wohid <bidrohee@yahoo. com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 7:15:31 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

Curse on him if he really did those that you accuse him with. Million times curse on you if he in fact commit those but you're just putting all your politically vengiant lies on him. If that's the case, be fearful of a day when you will be directly accountable before Allah to prove what you say. We know for sure why you hate Islamic scholars. Regards. Wohid

From: musasarkar <m_musa92870@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:57:09 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Murder and Rape by Bachchu Rajakar aka Moulana Abul Kalam Azad

Of course he just killed and raped some people in 1971 to please his master Pakistani Army.  But that doesn't make him guilty.  Furthermore, committing rapes and murders might have been prerequisites to enroll into moulana program in the Jamaati madrassah that he attended (I am really not sure whether he attended any).

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