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Thursday, May 21, 2009

Re: [ALOCHONA] News of HOPE! --be fully prepared to face noisy, nasty resistance

I am afraid we are looking at this as an academic " debate" only.
We need to go deeper than that. There are reasons why major political
parties left it alone. Despite our history of politicians abusing Islam
to advance their personal interest, majority of our population are
spiritual in nature and do not see the need to remove all token
presense of God in our lives. Islam is seen as an idea that promotes
good things in our communities.

For the same reason the US left "In God we trust" on dollar bills.
Those who are familier with US constitution know that it is Not a
Christian country. It has clear direction to seperate Church and State.
I am still flexible if I find any proof that removing those word will
bring positive changes to our country. I am yet to see it.
Islam is a pragmatic faith if understood properly. Prophet
Muhammad(PBUH) done similar thing to secure peace and end continuous
wars with pact of Hudaibeah.
We are not French and imposing a foreign value (strict secularism by
removing God) will end up bringing results and reactions similar to
1952 when we were forced to embrace a foreign language.
I am a fan of equal treatment and justice for all. Since BD laws are
not religious and secular in nature it is(Removing Bismillah) not
important for my country.
-qar


-----Original Message-----
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:53:11 -0400
Subject:
[ALOCHONA] News of HOPE! --be fully prepared to face noisy,
nasty resistance

 


From: farida_majid@hotmail.com
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] News of HOPE! --be fully prepared to face
noisy, nasty resistance
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:38:11 -0400

   Sentimentalization of "bismillah" on the Constitution has begun just
as I aprehended.  Anyone with eyes to read and understand plain
English would not have asked the following question: Why "Bismillah" is
a problem for you?

     Please, can I invite all, yes, ALL of us to put a little effort
and improve our understanding of this important issue?
 
      No single political party -- Awami League, BNP, or whatever --
can or  should keep   "bismillah" in the Constitution or expel it. By
the same token, its inclusion in the constitution by a Military
Dictator's whim was illegal. 
 
      However, "bismillah" is staying for the moment, as the Law
Minister indicated, not because of the AL goodness of the heart. The
act of including "bismillah" was done out side the legal realm covered
by the Fifth Amendment,1979. The present action is to activate (dismiss
the stay order) the High Court Judgment on 29th August, 2005 -- a
response to the Writ Petition # 6016/2000, Italian Marble Co. - Moon
Cinema Ha
ll.
 
    This Judgment called for a repeal of Fifth Amendment that was
passed under the clout of Martial Law in 1979 and all 'illegal
acts' that subsequently validated the usurpation of power.  The Fifth
Amendment, 1979, not only changed "the basic structure as well as the
character of the Constitution in its totality, but rather, uprooted the
Constitution; it was no amendment in the eye of law, but destruction of
the Constitution altogether, as such ultra vires to the Constitution."
 
            The above is a direct quote from the Judgment issued on the
Moon Cinema Hall case in 2005 by the bench consisting of Mr. Justice
ABM Khairul Haque and Mr. Justice ATM Fazle Kabir.
            
              Anyone can check the authenticity of the quote. It was
one of the most masterful Judgments isued by the judiciary in the short
history of Bangladesh.
 
                   Farida Majid
         
  


To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: qrahman@netscape.net
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 01:44:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] News of HOPE! --be fully prepared to face
noisy, nasty resistance


Ms Majid,
Why "Bismillah" is a problem for you?=0
D
FYI, Awami League is keeping it.
Now I'll share some good news. Jamaat took your idea and removed it
from their party constitution.
What's next?
Let me give you some food for thought. The word "Awami" came from Urdu.
Let me see how you can "Update" it.
Apparently Jamaat is more "Flexible" about these "Minor" issues as long
it takes them to haven AKA "Power".
My bet is Jamaat will give in first.

Good luck.
-qar


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