| Corrupted people are always creating situation by saying that not only he but also other people also corrupted. Never say they or never they support for taking legal lawful action against the corruption. By using confusing language sentences they create confusion so that lawful action can not be taken against the corruption for saving themselves. It is the praise worthy example that Minister Syed Ashraf is specifically said that Doctors & Engineers are corrupted. Is it not really true? Does it mean that others are not corrupted?? Mr. Syed Ashraf s/o Shahid Mr. Syed Nazrul Islam is the Elected Public Representative MP & a top class leader in BAL Party & Minister of BAL Government. It is very good news that he uttering his voice against the corruption specially doctors & engineers who are the literally key persons in the country. Now his duty, the duty of his party & the duty of his BAL Government is to take lawful legal action against of all corrupted people either he is a doctor or he is an engineer or he is a teacher or he is an employee or he is a politician or political leader.
--- On Wed, 27/5/09, K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf
To: "Diagnose YG" <diagnose@yahoogroup s.com>
Received: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 3:36 PM
However, every problem has some sort of solution, may not be total but at least approximate. Golam Dayan, and Dasd asdasd, M H Khan, Syed A. Islam (Minister), all said one thing in common is that Bangladesh has terrible corruptions. Well said. However, all of them made one serious mistake, which is "balme game". Blaming the others, to show, "Me or We" are good and the others are corrupted. One one said it directly but that is what ultimately boils down to the final meaning. I am not a firishta but I know I am not by any means with any of the corruptions. But I hate to participate into the blame game. Rather, I feel that me and some others who are really similar minded, not to do corruption by self and try as much possible to influence the others in a positive manner to work against corruptions and spread the message around as much as possible. We may not be able to achive anything in our generation but the work will create generations and groups in future who definitely will get greater results to be away from corruptions. One must understand the crux of the problem. It does not need a rocket science to understand it. Because most of the advanced countries of the world are corruptions free, or even if there is some corruptions, the amount is thousand fold less than what Bangladesh has. The entire country is engulfef in corruptions. Most people has the mentality of living on some other's money. This has to go. Also everything is measured in the Bangladeshi society by the amount of money someone has and so everyone tries right and left to make some money whatever way possible. Once someone becomes successful in making money which way beyond the value of his genuine labor of brain and physique, one gets addicted to it, and keeps on doing it, until facing any big ovstacle. Since law and order is seriously disrespected, the implementation of laws are not there and the bribe (monetary or relational) between the enforcer and the enforced seriously prevent the enforcement. Political corruption is also very serious in Bangladesh. Most people are muslims. Islam has the rules to stop monetary corruptions, but most people are muslims by name not by conviction. However, Islam has serious ingrained political corruptions. Islam does not respect the others, seriously undemocratic, women and minors are undermined, culturally primitive, backward in commerce and trade, no monetary policy, no incentive for earning, no dream for worldly development of self, culture, nation, or the world. Time is money. If enough time is used to earn money fairly, everybody can do better. But islam will seriously encourage to spend time for ibadat than earning money. So, religious muslims can not do well in earning fair money. This is one of the reasons for muslims to be financially backward. Bedides religion, everyone has to work hard and for extended time to earn money with hard labor. When this tradition will come to our society, everyone will remain engaged in hard work and corruptions will reduce. T
To: Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com From: golamdaiyan@ yahoo.co. in Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:36:55 +0530 Subject: Re: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf | NIce ALOCHONA... Somehow everyone in top to bottom are engaged in corruption directly or indirectly. A government service or Business firm or politicial.. . So there can not be any alochona. It may seems that who is giving us a advice of honesty, he might be corrupted one. In my country we can not rely on anyone. Because we donot have Unity. We are making a team or syndicate to avail ilegal facilities from the core heart of economy and law. Nothing else. More big smugler, theif, characterless people are holding the greate posts in government and business sector. They are only influencing our University students to become corrupted. An educational institute is the place of knowledge descovery. There is no money, so how come corruption come among students? Eventhough a University students bearly know about the professional wolrd. So, students, if they learn corruption they are learning it from the exiting system created by politicians and gov. employees. Not University. Bye
G. M. Daiyan
--- On Thu, 21/5/09, dasd asdasd <amerdesh@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: dasd asdasd <amerdesh@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf
To: "dhakamails@ yahoogroups. com" <dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com>, "Diagnose YG" <diagnose@yahoogroup s.com>, "Farid Khan" <faridhkhan@gmail. com>, "Ghulam Iqbal" <iqbalg@bigfoot. com>, "Hasinur Rahman (Dr.)" <hasimaju@yahoo. com>, "kazi.hasan@ aes.com" <kazi.hasan@aes. com>, "Khobor YG" <khabor@yahoogroups. com>, Diagnose@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 9:12 AM
| It is very very clear that all universities are now the factories of making irresponsible & corrupted educated doctors engineers & other faculty educated graduates, 1) The Teachers are doing nast politics but are not learning for earning update knowledge education to provide the students update knowledge educations, not providing correct lessons & not taking regular classes & examination in time. The students are getting untimely at lat students back dated knowledge less education for receiving certificates. After completion their so called study in the university they are not efficient to perform their duty honestly & correctly in their work fields. Only they can know chapabaji works as worthless & nonsense persons & can do works harassing the people for earning illegal money & power. Accordingly it can be said by Minister Syed Ashraf
that Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ So the people Tax & Vat payers of Bangladesh are asking Minister Syed Ashraf son /of Syed Nazrul Islam the first acting president of Bangladesh that he must take legal necessary action to do modification in education section in education courses & in education teaching staffs for providing correct update knowledge education to the students to educating them as honest skilled educated doctors, engineers & other faculty graduates so that they can honest efficient work persons in their work fields.
--- On Mon, 18/5/09, K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com>
Subject: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf
To: "dhakamails@ yahoogroups. com" <dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com>, "Diagnose YG" <diagnose@yahoogroup s.com>, "Farid Khan" <faridhkhan@gmail. com>, "Ghulam Iqbal" <iqbalg@bigfoot. com>, "Hasinur Rahman (Dr.)" <hasimaju@yahoo. com>, "kazi.hasan@ aes.com" <kazi.hasan@aes. com>, "Khobor YG" <khabor@yahoogroups. com>
Received: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 4:26 PM
How does he know about the Engineering Universities, Medical Collages and Agricultural Universities to produce educated corrupted engineers, doctors and agriculturists? Did he study in any of the institutions? Does by any means he attached himself with any research work dealing with what institutions make how much corruptions? For my entire life, I am hearing that the Engineering University is a place of model education. No corruptions did ever touch this institution while many other institutions, even a lot of them surrounding it had a lot of corruptions, either among the students or among the administrations. Starting from the Pakistan time, years after the years, all kinds of junk politicians, would create their cadres among the students of the Universities and of the colleges, with a view to motivating them to ill purposes, but those screwed up politicians could not touch the grounds of the institutions of real learning such as the Engineering University and Colleges, PG and Medical colleges, and the Agricultural University and the colleges; for a main reason that the highest class students go in those institutions, with a sole ambition of studying, learning, and for becoming the legitimate future professionals. No one goes there to be politicians. Anybody please just tell me an absolute truth, who are more corrupted in Bangladesh? The politicians? or the Professionals like engineers, doctors, health professionals, and agriculturists? I am not saying that there are no corrupted professionals or there are no honest politicians. All I am saying that if you make a statistical measurement, you will see the statistical curve of the measurement will go in opposite directions for the Bangladeshi professionals and the Bangladeshi politicians. Thirty years ago or before, people could feel the contributions of the politicians but today people feel that the country will run a lot better without any politicians. Politician are the ones who are spoiling the country by all means. But if you observe for the same period, you will see that Bangladesh could not produce the food for 65 to 70 millions people of the country. A number of people would die by hunger. Today Bangladesh is feeding 150 million people with a lot more and lot better food supply. Who made this to happen? Politicians or the agriculturists, engineers, and professionals of the host of disciplines? Thirty years ago, people would left and right immaturely, child and mother mortality was at the peak. Today all kinds of mortalities due to disease and disadvantage have reduced drastically. Who made it happen? The politicians or the doctors, health professionals, and health researchers? Thirty years ago or before, how many buildings were there to live or work, and how many roads were there to drive? How many today? Were all those built just by the politicians? Engineers, designers, constructors, mentors etc. all worked hard to make all these happen. If all professionals were only corrupted, then how all these achievements happened? Please provide the information about how much political achievements have happened in last several decades?
To: aushtock@yahoogroup s.com; world_peace_ movement@ yahoogroups. com; mukto-mona@yahoo. com; mukto_mona@yahoo. com; alochona@yahoogroup s.com; sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com; mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com; voice-of-south@ yahoogroups. com; odhora@yahoogroups. com; muslim-professional s@yahoogroups. com; bangladesh-zindabad @yahoogroups. com; amra-bangladeshi@ yahoogroups. com; notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com CC: editor@amadershomoy .com; editor@amardeshbd. com; editor@bangladeshto day.com; editor@dailynoyadig onto.com; editor@ittefaq. com; editor@jugantor. com; editor@manabzamin. net; editor@prothom- alo.com; editor@thedailystar .net; editor@newagebd. com; editor@nation. ittefaq.com; editor@shamokal. com; editor@newstoday- bd.comFrom: engrmhkhan@yahoo. com Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:08:27 -0700 Subject: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf Dear Brothers & Sisters,
Greetings from the heart of Bangladesh.
We are shocked after reading the news on The Daily Amardesh. Please find the link below, http://www.amardesh bd.com/dailynews /detail_news_ index.php? NewsID=224112&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home According to the news, LGRD minister Syed Ashraful Islam has made comments that Engineering Universities, Medical Collages and Agricultural Universities produces educated corrupted engineers, doctors and agriculturist. Are we really non-sense? We all know who pressurize, order, control and collect money through engineers, doctors and agriculturist? The answer is very easy most of them are the backbencher ministers, MPs, businessmen, contractors, political leaders etc. I am 100% sure if Honorable Minister wants LGRD ministry will be less corrupted ministry of BD Gov within next 5 years. In Bangladesh, the most meritorious students, the proud of nation study Engineering, Medical Science and General Sciences in Engineering Universities, Medical Collages, DU, JU, CU, RU, KU, SUST etc. But relatively less meritorious students i.e. UNO, DC, OC, SP, Secretary and officers of administration, police etc has been enjoying enormous power and wealth than those bright students of nation. How farce! How stupidity!! Hope, honorable Minister will think about the comments again and will find out the real causes of corruption. Thanks & regards,
Engr. Mosharraf H. Khan
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