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Sunday, October 25, 2009

[ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor of 3 million



This is a very good defence of the validity of the number of our people killed in 1971. Short, clever, challenging - it has all the necessary qualities needed. What more could we want? Perhaps thats why it is also the most commonly used defence of the number.

But why waste time with a staggering 6 words when you can use only 3 words and possibly even improve the quality - and sanctity - of the defence? Here it is:

3 million people definitely died in 1971 because: 'Mujib said so'.

Ezajur Rahman, Kuwait


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, ratri@... wrote:
>
> I stand on my ground ' ignorance is a bliss of solitude '
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@...
> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:14:59
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor of 3 million
>
>
> Dear Mr. Ejazur
>
> They say that some are born great, some are made great and some have
> greatness thrust upon them. By your mail anybody can assume that you are
> a born great. Come on stop this crap. Put your feet on the ground. I
> don't know you are a "real Bengali" or not, though you
> always portray yourself to be above a "real Bengali". Not this
> time only, in the past also you have been very sarcastic about Bengalis.
> One may wonder how you get so much time to write on every subject in
> this forum. So you live in Kuwait. Some of your posting suggest you work
> with KPC as you were writing from KPC server. Mr. Great you are using
> KPC server and KPC time to write in this forum. And you are preaching
> honesty. Typical, is not it? Not a "real Bengali" type.
>
> Official Bangladesh stand is 3 million died during its war of
> liberation. You questioned it and suggest it was 300,000. How you know
> it was 300,000? Your lords in Pakistan say it was only around 30,000.
> And on what context you brought in the issue of how many died in
> Bangladesh War of Liberation? If I recollect, it was not an issue. Issue
> was how many votes were casted during 2008 election.
>
> And I suggest you to write less but write with sense. Work for your
> employer during working hours. He is paying you for that. And leave some
> job for the future historian. Let him also work on something. We the
> "real Bengalis" have enough problems to tackle and have enough
> issues to talk. For God sake don't make settled issues (at the least
> as it looks like now) another controversy.
>
> With lot of regards
>
>
>
> Junaid
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@ wrote:
> >
> > I'll have to talk in your language.
> >
> > If my mother and sister were raped I would talk about my mother and
> sister and any other victim I knew of. If your mother and sister were
> raped you would not even acknowledge it (after all real Bengali na?) -
> unless of course you had the melodrama and smokescreen of saying all the
> women in the entire village were raped!
> >
> > The average Deshi male turns his back on justice for, and
> acknowedgement of, rape victims within his own family even today - let
> alone back then. So don't get all high and mighty with your political
> use of the word rape.
> >
> > While better people than me are busy with poverty alleviation and the
> role of religion and the price of fertiliser in Dinajpur I am here to
> deal with political exploitation by people like you.
> >
> > Stand your ground. Or skip away - its not like you ever had much to
> say anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, ratri@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I guess ignorance is a bliss of solitude for you ! You wouldn't dare
> to comment like that if your mother or sister was raped , or a family
> member was brutally killed , then again I am wasting my time to dumb
> narrow minded jack ass !
> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@
> > > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:45:02
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor
> of 3 million
> > >
> > > Dear Alochok Farida
> > >
> > > A million deaths here or there is irrelevant only in a cosmic sense.
> > >
> > > Down in the gutter of our politics, how many died in 1971 is the
> single
> > > most important question that should be answered by Bangladesh.
> > >
> > > We pay the price for thinking that the real number does not matter -
> > > because, as a result, now NOTHING matters.
> > >
> > > The sanctity we afford the number 3 million has sanctified our bold
> > > stupidity.
> > >
> > > The institutionalisation of the number 3 million has
> institutionalised
> > > our crass mediocrity.
> > >
> > > That number props up our egos, our insecurities and our delusions.
> > >
> > > That number cheapens the value of life and lightens the loss of
> life.
> > >
> > > We cannot even begin to describe how negatively that number has
> shaped
> > > our politics and our conscience.
> > >
> > > There are dirty reasons why we don't talk about it. And none of the
> > > reasons are in the context of the cosmos.
> > >
> > > These reasons are the very same reasons for our condition. I can't
> write
> > > about them because I don't think the English language can
> accommodate
> > > the scale of political depravity in Bangladesh.
> > >
> > > Ezajur Rahman
> > >
> > > Kuwait
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I try to avoid getting into the '3 million killed' argument. It is
> a
> > > pointless argument, as if a million subtracted here or added there
> makes
> > > a whole lot of difference. Below is a snippet excerpt from something
> I
> > > wrote on Genocide of 1971 two years ago.
> > > >
> > > > . . . . . . . .
> > > >
> > > > He quotes R. J. Rummel again: "It was Yahya Khan, then President
> > > of Pakistan", who said regarding his ill-conceived miliitary
> crackdown
> > > on East Pakistan in March, 1971: "Kill three million of them and the
> > > rest will eat out of our hands" (p315).
> > > >
> > > > The intended number to be killed mentioned in the statement of
> Yahya
> > > is not nearly as important as the explicit aim for mass killing that
> is
> > > expressed in the bombast there. And the aim of this mass killing was
> to
> > > make "them" eat out of "our" hands.
> > > >
> > > > ------------
> > > > But that was Pakistani military's neo-colonial aim. I distinguish
> > > between that aim and the one that was in the blackened hearts of the
> > > Bengali Razakars as they conducted the mass murders of
> fellow-countrymen
> > > in 1971. Those Razakars (and their newer versions) with the same
> > > murederous desires in their hearts are still among us. We keep
> knocking
> > > over them even in this forum.
> > > >
> > > > Farida Majid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_________________________________________________________________
> > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.
> > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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