The Second Countdown has already started. The house of cards, built on two nation theory by Mr.Jinnah, is about to collapse again. The question is, when? Respect for the Constitutional form of Governance and Democracy is totally alien to Muslim mind. Case in point---Chief of army staff, Gen. Ashfaq Pervaiz Kiyani is doing to President Zardari, what General Moeen U.Ahmed did to Chief Advisor Fakhruddin Ahmed--He is running and ruining the country extra-constitutionally, extra-judicially. Question of the hour is--Where is Iftikhar Mohammed Chowdhury? The audaciousness with which the Paki generals are showing their red eyes to visiting US dignitaries--particularly Senator Kerry and Hillary Clinton this week--is appallingly naive and myopic indeed. First it was ISI's Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha's refusal to meet Holbrook and General Mullen. Now this. The reason? Pakistanis are getting sick and tired of doing America's bidding and simply cannot leave its eastern border naked with India and fight the Al-Queda on the western front--with the carrot being offered. Eastern Border Naked? Sounds like, 'Larkay Lengey Hindustan' mentality at work here again. India already occupies Kashmir, Siachin, Sir Creek. India occupied East Pakistan. India beat Pakistan in 1965. India could have occupied East Pakistan in 1965 and use it as a bargaining chip for Kashmir. Had it not been for the Big Satan America---India would have occupied Lahore in 1965. Had it not been for the Big Infidel America---the Indians would have occupied Kashmir in 1971. Remember, the badly demoralized and devastated Pakistani Army was on the run as 96000 had already surrendered? This is the foolish Islamic logic I always harp on. They lost in 1757; they lost in 1857; they lost in 1918; they lost in 1965. They lost in 1971. They lost in 1991; They lost in 2003 and declared---all of that was because 'We stopped reading holly Quran'. Remember, America tried to save East Pakistan with 7th Fleet in 1971? Talk about ungratefulness? Talk about being ingrate? Talk about being Namak Haraam? Since 1947, the Americans had poured in hundreds of billions of dollars, trained them, armed them, fed them, and had forgiven another hundred billion dollar of debt. A scintilla of gratitude? As for the 80% of the country being controlled by Taliban's-my comment--rats and cockroaches also occupy 80% of the real estate in Washington D.C. What does that suppose to mean? Imagine, a goat asking the Lion to change its power politics in the jungle. Only a Muslim goat will have the chutzpah to ask this. No Hindu goat, no Christian goat, no Chinese goat will dare try this! The early Meccan Sura--The Elephant explains the Pakistani mind-set aptly. It refers to an event that took place in 570 A.D. The Yemeni Christian ruler Abrahah attacked Kabah with Elephents--intending to destroy it. The guardians of the Ka'bah radioed the Air support of Allah to intervene on their behalf because they could offer no defense. Allah sent flocks of birds who struck the invaders with stones. Each stone from the bird was more deadlier than the 'hell fire missiles' of the American drones. Folks, this is Muslim logic 101.
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From: turkman@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:04:48 -0700
Subject: [khabor.com] Pak Army openly vs. USA?
Sat Aug 1, 2009 3:41 pm (PDT) . Pakistan Gives US, NATO Proof On India's Covert Links With Baitullah Mehsud
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The US continues to be in denial as evident from the recent statement of Richard Holbrooke, where he said the evidence Pakistan has produced on India's links to terrorism in Balochistan is not credible. . * The Pakistanis have photographs and video tapes of Indian agents in Afghanistan meeting with known terrorists. * Army chief Gen. Kayani has warned the Americans to stop criticizing the ISI. * On his recent visit, the protocol given to Mr. Holbrooke was no longer presidential, as was the case during his previous visits. And the ISI chief has also declined to meet any US officials separately. * Pakistan is getting closer to being left with no option but to limit or outright block the occupation supply lines in order to force Washington to understand it can't ignore Pakistani regional strategic interests. --------------------------- TURKMAN's COMMENTS: . USA can not be forced by Pakistan to change her mind if Pakistan officially tells USA that NATO Supplies can not transit through Pakistan and its just a false hope that Pakistan would do that because in practice hardly any NATO Supplies left in Pakistan since Pakistan has already blown-up all the NATO Supply Depots through Taliban. No Caravans of NATO Trucks can reach Kabul without being attacked by Taliban since 700,000 strong Pak Army has not been providing any soldiers to guard them against Taliban Attacks. . Its only because of Pres. Obama's soft heart about his College Day Pakistani friends from Karachi that he is still not going against Pakistan so far but he is not so stupid to ignore the facts. He has made Russia and Central Asian countries to agree on US overflights, refueling of US Planes and Military Bases there to avoid Pakistan as a NATO Supply Warehouse, Supply Route and Attack Route in case USA decides to straighten-out brains of Pakistan Army Generals by attacking Pak Army and its Military Installations. Looks like Pak Army is digging itself deeper in a hole of doom. . Pak Army thinks, Holbrook is just a flimsy Bureaucrat and his job depends on its treatment of him by it. It thinks, it can cause his dismissal, not realizing that he has higher credentials than Pak Army since he was the architect of US Bombing on Serbia to defend Bosnian Moslims. . Its a strange situation that Pak Army can not stop the Elected Government of Pakistan to expand her friendly hand to India against its wishes and on the other hand, Pak Army is trying to play a game of duplicity with USA like Obama is an imbecile and does not know anything about nature of his own Pakistani friends that he lived with during his college days. ---------------------------------
By ONLINE NEWS AGENCY
Friday, 31 July 2009.
WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI. COM
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WANA/ISLAMABADâ€"Higher Pakistani political and military authorities have handed over substantial evidence to its allies US and NATO regarding India’s involvement in aiding Baitullah Mehsud.
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Well-informed sources told Online that Pakistani political and military leadership have provided documented and video tape evidence to Special US representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan Richard Holbrooke and ISAF chief Lt. Gen. McChrystal of India’s covert links with Baitullah Mehsud and provision of aid to him through Indian consulate in Afghanistan.
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During his recent trip to Pakistan Holbrooke was in clear-cut terms told to talk to India on this matter as Baitullah does not have resources to stand up before the army and he is clearly getting external aid. Upon this Holbrooke assured the Pakistanis that he would take up this matter with India at the diplomatic level. The Afghan government has also been told to stop the use of Indian consulates against Pakistan.
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Sources further say that Pakistan for the first time has made it clear to US and NATO that it is need of hour to halt foreign aid to terrorist elements in order to show results in the so-called war against terrorism.
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The full range of anti-Pakistan terrorism from Afghanistnan. The Indians are involved. But there is als0 concern
That some people in CIA and Pentagon are meddling in Pakistan without the full knowledge of the rest of the US government.
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On the other hand, Islamabad has made it clear to US that Washington needs to share relevant information with Pakistani intelligence agencies regarding the movement of Baitullah Mehsud along with pictures taken from satellites and drones.
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Pakistani Officials have also expressed their sheer reservations regarding directly targeting Baitullah Mehsud and have urged that drone attacks must be halted immediately as innocent lives are being lost because of it.
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Sources say that Chief of the Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani in his recent visits to the US has number of times made it clear to Richard Holbrooke and General McChrystal to stop criticizing ISI concerning support of Taliban as it could result in major difference between the two countries. He made it clear there were no sympathizers of Baitullah within the army
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Military sources further added that despite numerous briefings US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Admiral Mike Mullen is not refraining from lambasting ISI and the ISI chief is also maintaining his policy of not meeting the US authorities separately.
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