Fw:RE: Same enemies; same blunders? No, not at all. Truth must be told so that we learn from it and use it to better position ourselves against falsehoods. Sk. Mujib was a Bengali Muslim who had many shortcomings, as any other human being. There is little doubt that he was ill-advised on many occasions. Our people have a history of sycophancy that corrupts the minds of our leaders, letting them believe in their greatness of vision and soundness of mind. Once the tide turns, it is the same group that will be the first ones to disown their masters!
Many believe that Mujib's signing away of the War Crimes Trial of the war criminals was solely because he felt that without this he couldn't get support from the Saudis and other oil-rich countries - all of whom were pro-Pakistan and none pro-Bangladesh, except the Palestinians and the Egyptians. I remember when I came to North America for my studies in the late 1970s how I had to explain every Muslim student from outside about the dirty and ugly truth of our Pakistani brothers. What surprised me most is that most Pakistanis were so brainwashed that they had no clue of what had gone wrong in their E. Pakistan. Some Punjabi students even told me that when 16th December came with official recognition that Bangladesh had emerged, many were crying. Many of them, outside the army families, did not have any clue what their guys had done inside the then E. Pakistan.
In a hindsight, Sk. Mujib could have survived (Allah willing) if he had not signed away the trial, which also allowed the anti-Bangladesh forces to get stronger, conspire with Mostaq and bring about his own brutal death.
Habib
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Factification <factia@gmail.com> wrote: I hope you will not mind if I put some of the blame on Sheikh Mujib ur Rahman, a great but flawed 20th century Asian and Muslim leader like the rest. Sadly, he was very poorly advised by his treacherous expert advisers into signing away a War Crimes Trial of the cruel murders and rapists in the West Pakistani Punjabi Army in 1974. Mujib's family personally didn't suffer the ignominy suffered by the heroic 75 million strong nation. I don't know if it had anything to do with that. In any case he had no right to let go of those Muslim Punjabi goondas and their lackeys. We are paying a heavy price even today when a dirty ex-West Pakistani can print same lies. It hurts deeply that we cannot get the dirty cowards to the gallows. What do we do instead? We hunt our own misguided Bengalis seeking to bringing them to the gallows. Some of these misguided Bengalis did work for the Punjabi Muslims, usually using Saudi donations, to spread defaming lies to the Muslim world, in the mistaken belief that Pakistan was Islam and the Quran writ large (God forbid). They even went so far as to accuse anyone showing love of Bangladesh as being kafir. These Bengalis brought us shame. They tried to divide our nation. Incredibly they were happy if Bangladesh failed since it would prove them right that Bangladesh was nothing but a Hindu plot, thus serving the mercenary Punjabi Muslim's game plan. I hope parties like the Jamaat would remove such evil people from their midst for the sake Muslim unity. They are no good. They have done nothing good for Bangladesh for 30 years, except to play into the hand of the enemy. If Bangladesh seems so divided it has to be said that tiny clique has done their best. Playing Muslim against Muslim in our Muslim household. I believe Bangladesh has overcome that now, but only just. Many in the oppressed, abused, disposessed, and manipulated Baloch, Sindhi, Muhajir, Shia, Pashuun nations in ex-West Pakistan want to see some 10,000 cowardly Pakistan Army killers and rapists brought to trial. Muslims of the world must insist on that. The memory will never fade until the Muslim Punjabis themselves correct themselves. Seeing the Pakistani Shireen M Mazari's tissue of lies makes every decent person want proper restitution, especially on the 16th December- a very important day in the Muslim, Asian and world calender. Taslima
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Badrul Islam <badrul_islam2001@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear All,
Enclosing herewith a satire that will explain the present condition of Pakistan,.Please read. In the previous mail I forgot to include this so am forwarding again.
The Political Satire:
Benazir Bhutto, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin
all die and go to Hell.
While there, they spy a red phone and inquire what
the phone is for.
The Devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.
Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes.
When he finished the Devil informs him that the
bill is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.
Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for
30 minutes. When she finished the Devil informs
her that bill is 6 million dollars, so Queen Elizabeth
writes him a check.
Finally Benazir gets her turn and talks for 4 hours.
When she finished the Devil informed her that
there would be no charge for the call and that she
could feel free to call Pakistan anytime.
Hearing this, Putin gets very angry and asks the Devil why Benazir got a free call to Pakistan.
The Devil replied,
"Since Zardari became President of Pakistan , the country
has gone to Hell and as such it was a local call".
Hope the picture is clear now.
Badrul Islam
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| From: Badrul Islam < badrul_islam2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Fw:RE:Same enemies; same blunders? To: "Isha Khan" < bd_mailer@yahoo.com>, "Taslima" < factia@gmail.com>, "Bangladesh Strategic & Development Forum" < bd_sdf@yahoo.ca> Cc: "Faruque Alamgir" < faruquealamgir@gmail.com>, "MBI Munshi" < mbimunshi@gmail.com>, "Mo Assghar" < moassghar@yahoo.com>, "Farida Majid" < farida_majid@hotmail.com>, "dina khan" < dina30_khan@yahoo.com>, ayubi_s786@yahoo.comDate: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 10:55 AM Ex-West Pakistan's Punjabis will never learn and sadly the Bengali pawns keep them happy. They say they are victims of Indian Hindu enemy that Muslim Bangladesh came into being. They keep printing the same lies, but why do we keep giving them publicity? Do you know that Baloch, 44% of ex-West Pakistan territory, burn the Pakistani flag, and have been doing so for 60 years? The Pashtuns do the same. The Sindhis do the same. What do the Muslim Punjabis do? Accuse them of being enemies of Islam, of being kafir! Accuse them of being Hindu Pashun, Hindu Baloch, Hindu Sindhi, Hindu Mohajir, Hindu Saiaiki.... They accuse them of being allied to Indian Hindu enemy.... Now a days Muslim Punjabis accuse anyone who doesn't accept Punjabi brutal colonial style rule of being allies of kafir Shia Iran, of being allies of Israel...... BUT NOT OF BEING AMERICAN ALLIES!!! (The Punjabis consume and control all the American aid) Please stop undermining Bangladesh and Muslims. Pakistan's Punjabis like nothing better that Bangladesh be weak and divided. They are no better than our Indian enemy in that regard, but worse in that they claim to be our Muslim "brothers". May Allah help us from those who play Islam. Taslima On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Mashooq Salehin <mashooq_salehin@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I appreciate your effort to disperse different thoughts and opinions from various point of view. However, this article by SHIREEN M MAZARI actually made me (angry and) disappointed. I thought and expected a piece with more analytic quality. Instead, this article presents a very light and shallow analysis, which I am familiar with, particularly of a Pakistani perspective.
I have met and encountered numerous citizens of Pakistan with the same belief in my expatriate life herein USA for last eleven years. This is a very generalized way of looking into the history. Yeah, this is right, that, India in many aspects holds a self-centered point of view and Indian government serves (Unlike two other nations in South Asia) their interest, however, this is NOT the only and main reasons of breaking of Pakistan. Independence of Bangladesh was obvious, due to the disparity, inequality and oppression. Such unequal distribution of resources and remittance was not the fruit of Indian conspiracy, rather these were the outcome of conspiracy of the different West Pakistani Socio-political (formal and informal) feudal systems. Should they recognize the right of common people, the history could be different, but necessarily it does not prove the success of 'so called' Indian Conspiracy. Such thought and ideas represent nothing but intentions of denying the history, which they should be responsible for.As a Bangladeshi, we hope before dispersing such thought and idea, You Mr. Khan would give a second thought. I recognize the threat from the neighbor, however, that should not confuse me identifying the old Cheater. Thank you. With best wishes -- MS--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> wrote: | Same enemies; same blunders? SHIREEN M MAZARI
December 16, 1971 and the fall of Dhaka should remind us in Pakistan of the follies of our leaders and the repercussions of unfettered military action against one's own people. It should also be a time to ponder over the role of our neighbour, India, in the dismemberment of our country and the complicity of the major powers, in giving legitimacy to this first break-up of a post-colonial nation since the end of the Second World War. The war in what was then East Pakistan was not the first civil war that had happened, although once India stepped-in it ceased to be a mere civil war, but it was the first war that split up a sovereign member of the UN and this was recognised by the UN. The Biafra case was also there but no one was prepared to grant recognition to this breakaway entity.
Our rulers' many sins of omission and commission must be highlighted for our future generations to ensure we do not make the same mistakes again - especially in terms of unacceptable "collective punishment" which only creates more enemies amongst one's own people, but what is equally important to understand is the role of India - first covertly then overtly. After all, the surrender of Dhaka was to India not to Bangladesh. At the time the US feigned support by trying to "send in" the Sixth Fleet - but in reality that never happened and the UNSC was not allowed to call for a ceasefire till the Soviet Union, the US and its allies were sure of the loss of East Pakistan.
If we are unable to understand the Indian mindset and its approach to Pakistan, as well as US duplicity towards Pakistan, we will once again find ourselves in a similarly disastrous situation. Luckily for Pakistan, the Two Nation Theory proved its strength and so an independent Muslim nation of Bangladesh was created instead of East Pakistan being swallowed into Indian West Bengal! Again, Bhutto's masterpiece diplomacy through the OIC allowed Pakistan to recognise this new Muslim state and leave India out in the cold.
However, we should especially recall this traumatic event in our national life so that in times of crisis we know who our enemies are and where we may be committing the same blunders again in terms of military operations and political hardlines. Pakistan's biggest threat today comes from two main sources. First, the total disconnect that exists at all levels of national policy - which is allowing our enemies, be they the non-state actors comprising militants of multiple brands, or India and increasingly the US to do as they please within Pakistan's territory - and a government that is either unable or unwilling to correct this dangerous drift. Second, the unholy Indo-US partnership that is giving aid and succour to Pakistani militants and separatists.
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