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Monday, February 1, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] worth wacthing



Well, Ms. Majid, you answered my question, "And how long has the West been taking such advantage, not more than a few hundred years, right?" in one word, 'WRONG'. Could you explain your answer with some facts from history?

As for the USA, taking advantage of the inter- and intra-religion hatred in the Middle East could not have been more than 240 years, as the country was formed in 1776. In fact, it was no more than 183 years (the presidency of Andrew Jackson).

The French influence has been in west and north Africa since the early part of the 17th century, but much later in the Middle East. The British influence in the Middle East has been mostly since early 20th century. If you know history better, please educate me and others in this forum. I would much appreciate it.

Please also educate us on the history of how long the hatred and conflicts between Jews, Christians and Muslims and between Sunni and Shia Muslims of the land of the Middle East have been going on. Please do not dodge this issue. Because it is critical to be honest and open with facts, without which at least I would not expect the injustice, hatred and barbaric behavior among too many humans that we have been witnessing to go away.

Finally, please do me a favor; do not put me in the category of what you called 'communal crowd.' Let me give you this: I genuinely believe that one aspect of the progress of humans toward civilization is to dislike (phobia) the stupidity, injustice, hatred and atrocity that can be found in most religions. If you call that 'communal', you have a language problem, if not worse; never mind where you might have taught what language.

Sukhamaya Bain

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On Monday, February 1, 2016 11:54 AM, "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Sukhamaya writes:
<< And how long has the West been taking such advantage, not more than a few hundred years, right? >>
WRONG.

Okay, you may not have a Ph D in History, but you are educated enough (with a PhD in another subject about which we would have been glad to know) to know the outlines of History of Civilization.  Specially considering the fact that you guys write about nothing else -- absolutely NOTHING else -- other than religion, how bad and bloody Islam is or has been, one would have thought that you would pick up a little more academic knowledge about the subject.

 Even Donald Trump is making more sense about the Middle East ("They were better off before we intervened -- they managed to live next to each other without trouble") than the mukto-mona members who should have known better history as Indian subcontinentals.

Tables are turning, even in the West, and in America.  The mukto-mona communal crowd, with all their PhDs, are going to be left behind as a pathetic bunch of PAID fools.

 <<  And so the West linked terrorism with Islam, which is one of the greatest cultures on earth, with 1.6 billion followers. Islam is big and mighty enough, to scare the shit out of the middle class housewives in some Western suburb! And on top of that, it had to be contained anyway, as it was essentially too socialist and too peaceful.
At that time in history, all great secular and socialist leaders of Muslim countries, (like in Iran, Indonesia and Egypt), were overthrown by the West, their legacy spat on, or they were simply banned.
But that was not enough for the West! >>

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Terrorism has many forms and many faces, but the most terrible of them is cold cruelty. We are asked to believe that terrorists consist of dirty lunatics, running around with bombs, machine guns an…




From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:38 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] worth wacthing
 
 
I also think that it would be better if the person who posted a link wrote a comment or two about the subject of the link. However, I believe Ms. Majid is actually smart enough to see why this post by Mr. Guha is worth watching, especially by people who seem the blame the West for the woes of the Middle Eastern barbarians. Clearly, those people in the Middle East have been killing and committing atrocities on their own people for thousands of years for the nonsense of their religions; and Islam is actually only one of three such religions, with an additional problem of Shia vs Sunni. Just think, how long the Shia vs Sunni hatred has been in action! Just think, is the West the root cause of the inter-religion and inter-sect hatred in the Middle East, or the West has been taking advantage of the hatred that already existed there for thousands of years? And how long has the West been taking such advantage, not more than a few hundred years, right?

SuBain

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On Saturday, January 30, 2016 11:15 AM, "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Why does Sitangshu think that this video is "worth watching'?

     If and when I post something I usually highlight a paragraph or   share a thought on the topic, thereby inviting other mukto-mona members to join the discussion.



From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 1:44 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] worth wacthing
 
 
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