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Wednesday, September 13, 2017

[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: Subject: Rally for Rohingya

There is no denying muslims politiciansn and their for last few decades using terror as way to promte it agenda.It's headquater is in Jeddah. Aslong headquater is protectsd , terror will keep streaming out of there. Killing babies in Mynmar in reveange is not a winning stratagey to fight, so modern society likey in west and some asian country like Philipnes dont resort to that.

On Wed, 9/13/17, DeEldar <> wrote:

Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: Subject: Rally for Rohingya
To: "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <>, "mokto mona" <>
Cc: "wasim khan" <>, "Khoniker Othithee" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "Nazda" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "" <>, "Bangladesh Islamic Center Of Massachusetts" <>, "Zoglul Husain" <>, "Mohammad Gani" <>, "S Akhter" <>, "Mohamed Nazir" <>, "Muazzam Kazi" <>, "SITANGSHU GUHA" <>, "" <>, "javed helali" <>, "Farida Majid" <>, "rashed Anam" <>, "qamruddin chowdhury" <>
Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 6:38 PM

This is
called 'a poetic justice' where victims are happened
to be Muslims. The love for human rights has suddenly become
so popular with our hypocrites, Islamist. But, don't
worry, there will be another terror act very soon and some
innocents would die. And perpetrators are not going to be
other than peaceloving Muslims. Does that bother you? Does
that tell you that people do not trust you?
If you see a silver lining with Rohinga
episode, then, you should acknowledge that Muslims and
Muslim countries are not so innocents with their century old
ethnic cleansing of Jews, Christians, Hindus and
Budhists....... wherever they raided, plundered and settled.
Obviously, that would not be acknowledged by you or your
kind. Yes, Muslims can't do any wrong. They have been
always only victims?  

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
12:59 PM, wasim khan <>
You seem
to be hopelessly intoxicated in the 'Religion',
specifically in anti-Muslim religion, to explain and
understand all the world phenomenons !
That's a prejudiced man's overly
simplifying attempt to explain complex things. 

When India sinks into
the Hindu-fanaticism base politics, it targets the minority
Muslim, even minority Christians. Sometimes lynching Muslims
using excuses such as ridiculous beef-eating !!

Germany's NAZI party
did the same with the Jews.

Surely some Arab country did persecute
their own people !

Even USA did the same with the native
Americans and the Blacks.

In all cases, different tools such
religion,ethnicity, immigrants, skin colors were used to
attain the end goal of power, greed, politics etc. India is
using Hindu religion to commit its dirty jobs. Iran is using
religion for its own power. Others are using other stuff
such as USA used anti-communism mantra to support brutal
dictators in Latin America.

The point is no religion , Hindu or Islam
or Christianity is bad.  It's the bad people who use
religion, skin color, ethnicity to attain their power goal
are the bad thing here.  Saying something as bigoted as
Islam is bad and root of all bad things is overly simplistic
and totally wrong thing to say.

Just try
to bring yourself into "freedom for all, justice for
all" mantra, regardless of religion, color or

Peace !

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
12:15 PM, DeEldar <>
Now, you are singing the gospel song of
humanity and justice when Myanmar Budhists have taken a page
from century old Muslim doctrine. Fully sanctioned by the
Arabian God? The time has finally caught up with Muslims 
Maybe, there is a silver lining from this sorry and sad
episode? Maybe, this will make many Muslims and Muslim
countries think twice before they torment their
minorities.... and even their own clans?
Read history with care, dear! You do not
care about any other religion except your own and that is
finally backfiring. Even Europeans, Americans and Chinese
are simply got tired of the very virulent breed that you
represent. Change or ready to be changed! No good deed would
go unpunished!

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
11:04 AM, wasim khan <>
Mr DeEldar,
You must hate yourself. Because if there
any hypocrites, you most certainly lead the pack.

The Rohingya are
persecuted and targeted people for the fault of being
Muslims.  When we all see them as people, people like you
see them as "Muslim", ripe targets of your
hate-bashing. If you stand for justice and freedom for
people, regardless of ethnicity, religion and creed, your
Rohinggy bashing and Rohingya hating contradict your claim.

are against the persecution and oppression of any people,
including Hindu, Boddho, Christeans. The 'people' is
the key word here. 

Surely 71's Bangladesh have
similarity. We're attacked and as a consequence took up
arms.  Rohingyas have been under attack since 1940's.

Wasim Khan

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
10:09 AM, DeEldar <>
I hate hypocrites, who have been
congenital ethnic cleansers of minorities since the 7th
century.  Muslims have failed in every departments of
global progress and humanity. Now, it is the burden of
others, infidels to save Muslims from more miseries? Muslims
never accepted the principles of a pluralistic society, let
alone separating the state from the religion. A Muslim is
not even loyal to any modern state except to Allah and
his/her own pure homogeneous Muslim state. Mass exodus of
Muslims are happening from Middle-east, Asia and Africa from
none other than pure Muslim dominated countries. Yes,
Muslims are basically cleansing their own clans in the name
of Allah and purity. Now, Rohingas want a state within
another state because they have encroached that province in
last 70 years? A separate Muslim state is a must??

Bangladesh liberation is not the same as Myanmar situation.
By all criteria, Bangladesh has become a second sovereign
Pakistan. The tiger has only changed its stripe. No
qualitative change as far as I can see. If you want to start
another war with Myanmar, I say more power to you. Create
another Syria there and face the  consequences!

As for Nazda clan, she
is a totally witless woman with typical Bangladeshi quality.
Speaks poorly and writes poorly even after serving so long
with intelligent American democrats. Would she convince
democratic Sanders/Hillary/Warren gang to declare a new
jihad on Myanmar? You think Americans are ready to take that
task seriously? My friend, tone down the violent rhetoric
and talk with Myanmar and other parties. The days of swords
are long gone.

love love for infidel Malauns!

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
8:46 AM, wasim khan <>
Mr DeEldar,
You seem to be trying to justify genocide
and ethnic cleansing  of Rohingya Muslims, just because
they are Muslim ?
The 30/40/50 years
of continuous killings and persecution of Rohingya is not
enough to stand up resist ? Do you want them to be taking
the persecution and ethnic cleansing forever ??

Did not
Bangladesh take up arms on the face of mass-killings in
1971? Wearing uniform does not give anyone license to kill
It appears that you
do not like Muslims . You seem to have lost credibility when
comes to any discussion of Muslim suffering.



On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at
11:03 PM, DeEldar <>
Nazda Alam is just another low IQ party
animal with no leadership quality except the capacity of
cooking some goat/beef curry, Basmati rice Polaui and
Bangladeshi sweetmeats. Call her a big রসগোল্লা. The lady has no
visible clout with any Bangladeshi Americans, let alone
American gringo democrats. Mr. Khan got it right about this
poor witless lady. The Rohinga problem is not new but when
these people started to attack and kill Myanmar police, that
crossed the line. The attack has alarmed many powerful
countries and Rohingas being called the new terrorists of
the town. A new Muslim war in Myanmar is not a good idea in
the light of Muslims fleeing from their own countries due to
their own misrule.... perpetrated by none other than their
own despotic actors and leaders. Rohingas should lay down
the arms and opt for peace. This war will bring disaster to
Bangladeshi economical progress.

But then, who can convince these hot headed

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at
9:37 PM, Khoniker Othithee <>
Dont take it too personaliy , she may have a innocent
resaons for.what  came accross obtrusive to some.

Some dont see the fine distinction between I and we, so take
the liberty and  use one for  the other; so give them a

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On Sun, 9/10/17, rashed Anam <>

 Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: Subject: Rally for Rohingya

 To: "wasim khan" <>

 Cc: ""
"Nazda" <>,
"Bangladesh Islamic Center Of Massachusetts"
"Zoglul Husain" <>,
"Mohammad Gani" <>,
"S Akhter" <>,
"Shah DeEldar" <>,
"Khoniker Othithee" <>,
"Mohamed Nazir" <>,
"Muazzam Kazi" <>,
"mokto mona" <>

 Date: Sunday, September 10, 2017, 9:18 PM

 No need to be so disrespectful ! You

 can air your disagreement in civil manner without



 On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at

 3:21 PM, wasim khan <>


 Really ? 

 Must everything have to be about you, Ms. Nazda Alam?

 size of your substance-less  ego and urging of

 self-importance too big for even issues like Rohingya

 genocide ?


 always "I said, I did this, I have this, , I want

 " for you.  "I, me and myself". The queen

 self-promotion always busy banging her own drum on the

 of the community and lecturing community without

 doing anything specific for the community.


 exactly are you  bringing in the table ? You say,


 have a huge Bangladeshi Community in New



 An army of Bangladeshi ready to be deployed at your

 ?  What are you waiting for ?


 say "


  Prime Minister of Bangladesh will be present with

 high officials,

  and it could be possible to communicate with them

 in New York.


 Really? How are you going to communicate

 with Dictator Hasina? Even if we assume you BS is

 what will you say to Hasina that is not already said

 Give shelter to the Rohingya people ? BD is already

 to do so.

 Give specific and stop BS-ing. Don't

 try to exploit issues for own self-advancement without

 actual help.  Do you have bus setup for take people to NY




 Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Nazda Alam <


 Subject: Rally

 for Rohingya

 Dear Bangladeshi Community,  I

 am forwarding my e mail that I sent to Burma Task Force

 I am part of the Burma Task Force organizing Committe.

 Please see my following  statement . I would like to

 you all to join with Burma Task Force for a rally in

 York. Sept 19th is Tues day and a working day. We need

 take time/day off from our work. We can have bus to go

 New York  if we have enough people .This is  our chance

 take a lead for an international platform. Please

 about it and lets have conversation.We do not have

 time to make a commitment. Please  be quick
. :"ASAK. I have been in contact in

 Bangladesh regularly on the  Rohingya issue.

 people are overwhelmingly supporting the refugees and

 privately helping them as much as they can, but the need

 enormous. Anyway, I have few things in my mind on

 issues.The 72nd Regular Session of the UN General

 (UNGA72) will convene at UN Headquarters on Tuesday,

 September 12, 2017. The General Debate will open on

 19 of September 2017: with a focus on the

 theme, Focusing on People; Striving for

 Peace and decent Life for all on a sustainable



 am proposing to go to New York on the 19th for a rally

 front of UN Headquarters for about 2 hours in the prime

 time. Burma Task Force, New York can arrange this and

 people from neighboring states can join.I have a huge

 Bangladeshi Community in New York; I can contact in case

 need to. The Prime Minister of Bangladesh will be

 with other high officials, and it could be possible to

 communicate with them directly in New York.  Next thing
in my mind is to

 organize a fundraising event in Boston for Rohingyas

 Thanks."Nazda Alam weston,MA


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