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Monday, October 29, 2007

[ALOCHONA] Re: Attention blind supporters of CTG

Lets keep it even more simple.

My only concern is that Hasina and Khaleda should be removed as prime
ministerial candidates. They can be in jail or paradise or Baridhara -it makes no difference to me. It is my only concern because this is the number one priority. Until these two are removed there can be no real reform. Period.

Fakhruddin and his men are not above the law or above criticism. You must urge them to change approach or policies if needed. However
many pretend they want the CTG to succeed but actually they want it
to fail. Their attacks are poorly disguised (to me) as constructive
criticism. And they are hardly ever challenged.

Price spirals and economic slumps are nothing new. The suffering of
our people is nothing new. The insult to people's intelligence and to
people's integrity is nothing new. The sliding taka is nothing new.
The common man having to urinate in the street is nothing new. Please
don't justify your points with these arguments. The common man
deserves much more than the talk of cheap potatoes. He needs a
lasting solution to the political malaise in the country.

You presume too much in saying living abroad is a weakness in such
matters. The country has been ruined from the inside – not the
outside. Rather I would say you don't care that a million of your
countrymen - with Deshi passports - are forced to work abroad for slave wages and provide a massive chunk of our foreign exchange – and are called miskin. Come here to the Middle East and talk of your sovereign pride when Bangladeshi is an Arabic word for dirty cleaner.

I didn't say we were sentimental beggars. I said if what you say is
true then we are sentimental beggars.

Don't use the language of politicians – it's an easy bluff to say we
may not be the number one nation but we are this or that. We are one
of the most corrupt countries in the world with one of the most
ridiculous politics in the world – that is talking facts and facing facts. Admit it. That is all I want.

What about 2008? If what you want happens – then Hasina and Khaleda
return as before. That makes you happy? Why?

REFORMS ARE NOT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF POLITICAL PARTIES. Spare me
the democratic bravado. Moeen is pandering to the media. If he is a realist he knows these two parties cannot really reform with Hasina and Khaleda as leaders.

Reforms are on the table BECAUSE of the CTG. Not because of what you
imagine are really noble democratic ideals in Bangaldeshi politics.

How am I making Hasina and Khaleda scapegoats for my dishonesty?
Please explain. Even now you, along with many others, protect them.
It is ridiculous and far more insulting than anything I have said.

For I have said we can move forward without them.

And you say – however discretely - we cannot move forward without
them.

You are praying for the CTG to leave with dignity. Thanks. Me too.

When are you ever going to pray for Hasina and Khaleda to leave with
dignity?

I am not a blind supporter of CTG. This country was not – and has not
been ruined – by blind supporters of the CTG.

IT HAS BEEN RUINED BY BLIND SUPPORTERS OF HASINA AND KHALEDA.

But you don't like talking about the real causes of our actual problems. So lets talk about the price of potatoes instead.

Regards

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Ejaz
>
> I am sorry that I failed to make your eyes open. It is not good for
> you and for the nation if very learned people like you are blind
> folded. Please re-read what you have written. I very firmly believe
> that you yourself will not feel good. I urge you to cool down. I
and
> you know that you are arguing for the sake of argument only
> otherwise your arguments have no substance. Mr. Ejaz use of
> difficult words will not let you win the argument. Simple and plain
> words will make you understand better.
>
> Mr. Ejaz, if I am not mistaken you are not living in Bangladesh. It
> seems that you are least bothered about the suffering of commoners
> in the country. Yours only and only consideration is that Khaleda
> and Hasina are in jail. Do you realize the sufferings of common man
> by price spiral? The economy of the country is sliding. But for you
> it hardly matters, as your Kuwaiti Dinar is giving you more
> Bangladeshi takas as price of taka is falling constantly. You are
> still in the game of cards. Man, life is not a game of cards. In
> real life spade is a spade and it is not the spade of cards.
>
> Mr. Ejaz, I don't know about others but I will take it lightly when
> you call ours a nation of sentimental beggars. After all you are
> living in a place, where may be you are called "Muskeen" all the
> time and that remains in your conscious and sub-conscious. We may
> not be no.1 nation in the world but definitely we are not nation of
> beggars.
>
> Mr. Ejaz, did you ever thought what is going to happen after
> December 2008. Oh! I am sorry. I should not ask you this question.
> Anyway your posting is full of contradictions. About reforms, I
will
> suggest you to see what your beloved Gen. Moeen had to
say, "Reforms
> are internal affairs of political parties."
>
> Mr. Ejaz, if one is dishonest, what may be the level of it; he
> cannot justify it by stating that past Governments were dishonest.
I
> again say, don't make Khaleda and Hasina scapegoats for your
> dishonesty. It is not at all acceptable to a common man. But you
are
> a very special man.
>
> Last not the least, Mr. Ejaz since you are not living in the
country
> I am telling you some of the readings on the wall today in
> Bangladesh. People are talking and concerned about the double
> standards of CTG. But why should I tell you this as you are a blind
> supporter of this CTG. However, just pray with me that this CTG
> leaves power with dignity. We don't want any more bloodshed in the
> country.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Junaid
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Junaid
> >
> > You have every right to call a spade a spade – as long as you
don't
> > run out of cards. By all means criticize – but you know well there
> > are different types of criticism.
> >
> > What exactly was your sumptuous choice before Fakhruddin? Lets
> have some honesty, some modesty. We not only suffer from
mediocrity –
> we suffer from mediocrity AND delusions of grandeur.
> >
> > What exactly makes you feel so politically wealthy? What are the
> many
> > options you have? After AL barristers and BNP barristers throw
> chairs at each other in the courts what do you think is next in our
> great democratic journey?
> >
> > Your own message betrays the delusions – however sincere – that
> > blight our nation so cruelly -
> >
> > 1. AL and BNP have been ruining the social fabric of the nation
for
> > two decades. Yet you can still say this CTG, after less than a
> year,
> > is not far behind? You are kidding sir.
> >
> > 2. I can see the strong wall of honesty of the CTG - two dozen
> > citizens – showing cracks. How would you describe the wall of
> honesty
> > of AL and BNP governments – more or less honest than the CTG? The
> > wall was a sham and it is smashed in comparison with the CTG.
> >
> > 3. Even now you have the notion we should not make Hasina or
> Khaleda
> > scapegoats! What are they? Gods? Is it something about us Bengalis
> > that doesn't mind two women ruining the country? That we would
> rather
> > see them free, running proudly through our green fields, regularly
> > dumping on the nation's integrity and future?
> >
> > 4. Putting Hasina and Khaleda in jail does NOT turn them into
> > heroines! Heroines for who? You? Or for a nation of sentimental
> > beggars? They are not heroines for the majority and this theory is
> > broadcast only by those who think we aren't capable of much. You
> can
> > breathe without Hasina and Khaleda - today. Try it.
> >
> > 5. The same ladies who drove our country to disaster are needed to
> > hold the country together, to initiate and to apply sweeping
> reforms.
> > Because? Because you don't think we can handle affairs without
> them.
> > Why? Its disgraceful. Its shameful. Its pathetic. Its insulting.
> >
> > 6. Hasina and Khaleda are responsible for the mess – NOT the CTG.
> The
> > parties were only talking of reform BECAUSE THE CTG APPLIED
> PRESSURE.
> > Don't flatter yourself that the parties were ready for the reform
> the
> > nation is crying out for. They have neither the character nor the
> > guts nor the tools to challenge the mafia within them. It is the
> CTG
> > that is setting the agenda for reform – not the parties. You may
> wait
> > another 10 years for the parties to reform but some know the
> country
> > can't wait that long - just to pander to political fantasies.
> >
> > They belong in jail. For what they have done, what they have
> allowed
> > to happen and for what they are preventing from happening. But you
> > are worried about consequences. For 20 years you have seen the
> > consequences of their freedom. But still it is not enough.
> >
> > They won't go abroad for a couple of years. They won't resign.
They
> > won't won't admit their faults. They won't compromise in their
> > personal feuding. They won't sacrifice a term. They won't sweep
> aside
> > all their corrupt members.
> >
> > But you still think we need them?!!! I suggest any man who thinks
> we
> > need Hasina and Khaleda should be legally denied the right to
> divorce
> > his wife under any circumstances. After all, he should continue
> > suffering just as he wants the nation to suffer with these two
> > ladies!
> >
> > Or maybe we are nation of Dr Frankensteins - we just can't live
> > without the monsters we have created?
> >
> > If you are right then I am totally convinced – we are indeed a
> nation
> > of beggars. Because our politics beggars belief.
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The events prior to 1/11 are eye-openers so it is time for
> everyone
> > > to open their eyes. We as a nation can not afford to have blind
> > > supporters of any group. Sorry to tell you Mr. Ejaz, but we are
> > not
> > > beggars. We are and we want to be choosers. We have every right
> to
> > > call spade a spade. If the past AL or BNP governments with
theirs
> > > blunders have brought the country to the brink of disaster, the
> > > present CTG is not trailing behind with a long distance. Their
> > > failure list is much longer than their successes. The very
strong
> > > wall of the honesty of CTG is showing cracks. You should be
able
> to
> > > see if you are not blind. We should be watchful of each and
every
> > > step of this Government and every future Government. Do we need
> to
> > > be critical of a Government after expiry of their term (in this
> > case
> > > it is 2 years, hopefully) or give them the opportunity to
rectify
> > > themselves during their tenure? And don't make scapegoats. We
> have
> > > heard enough of these scapegoats in the past. Enough is enough
> now.
> > >
> > > Some may be over joyous that Hasina and Khaleda are in jail.
They
> > > are too blind to think about the consequences? The nation had
> > > started ignoring these two ladies. People were talking about
> > reforms
> > > in political parties. By putting them in jail you have made them
> > > heroes (or herions) again. Since they went in jail no body is
> > > talking about reforms in political systems. Even Gen. Moeen had
> to
> > > say that reforms are internal affairs of political parties.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Not so blind
> > >
> > > Junaid
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Ezajur Rahman, Bad people and Bad politics of Islam must
be
> > > removed
> > > > not only from Bangladesh but all parts of the world.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Shamim Chowdhury
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
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> ---
> > -
> > > -----\
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are not allegations against
> Hasina
> > or
> > > > > Khaleda. They are proven facts. Nothing to do with 'after a
> long
> > > > time'. After Mujib - Hasina! After Zia - Khaleda!
> > > > >
> > > > > If this CTG is guilty of the same you may criticise it -
but
> the
> > > > > blame lies with Hasina and Kahleda for creating this
> situation
> > in
> > > > > the first place.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not praying like the rest of the crooks and thieves and
> > > > > murderers for a return to AL and BNP governmnet like before.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bad people are praying twice as hard as party people for
> > > democracy.
> > > > > Because Bangladeshi democracy protects and promotes
criminals
> > and
> > > > > thieves.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no problem with the family ties in this CTG because I
> > > believe
> > > > > it was done like this to maintain control in an emergency
> > > situation.
> > > > > We have 5 years to judge AL and BNP - we can wait another
> year
> > to
> > > > > see the result of the CTG.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the emantime - how times have changed! Hasina and Khaleda
> > > spent
> > > > > Eid in jail!
> > > > >
> > > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That makes it all worthwhile!
> > > > >
> > > > > Miracles do happen!
> > > > >
> > > > > Allhamdullilah!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > Kuwait
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mahathir of bd
> > > > > wouldbemahathirofbd@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are two common allegations
> > against
> > > Al
> > > > > and BNP. But this evil deeds became prevalent after a long
> time
> > > of
> > > > > their power.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But our so called angel government showed nepotism and
> > > > > family dynasty from the beginning by appointing brother in
> law
> > > and
> > > > > sister in law as advisers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > blind supporters of cTg then said that they are qualified
> > > > > persons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No see how qualified they are .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.amadershomoy.com/news.php?id=205729&sys=1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And if we critisize the CTG , the blind suporters think
> that
> > > > > we are supporting AL or BNP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From the begining it was clear to me that this CTG run by
> > > > > reactive and inexperienced and destructive people will bring
> > > > > hardly any good to Bangladesh when we will make the balance
> > > sheet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > ----
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Subhan Allah- Only Allah flawless
> > > > > > Alhamdulillah - All praise to be of Allah
> > > > > > Allahhuakbar - Allah, the Greatest
> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > --
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------Would
> Be
> > > > > Mahathir of BD
> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > --
> > > > > -
> > > > > > If it can be imagined, it is possible- NEC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives
> answers,
> > > not
> > > > > web links.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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