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Monday, October 29, 2007

Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Attention blind supporters of CTG

I just returned from three days in Dhaka yesterday. I was born in BD but left at the age of 5. Up to the age of 17, I lived in various countries in North Africa and the Middle East, including Kuwait. I have spent the last 17 years in the United States. While I shared some of Mr. Ejaz's views less than a week ago, the reality on the ground is quite different in Dhaka. Without the support of the general masses, all policies are doomed to failure. The actions of the interim govt. are clearly taking a toll on the economy. The real estate market has gone south and is continuing to do so. This can be said of pretty much all other sectors of the economy. The most vehement supporters of past "initiatives" to reduce corruption are now speaking out against much of what is going on in BD. 

My only advice to Dr. Fakruddin would be this: Time is running out and his most loyal supporters are beginning to speak out against much of the prolonged actions to reduce corruption in BD --- let's move the process along. Putting exArmy officers into roles for which they were never trained throughout their 30 yrs military careers can not possibly be helpful to the running of a corporation or an enterprise of any kind. Two wrongs do not make a right. The interim govt. should make a little more effort to stay in tune with the needs and desires of the common man. The common man in BD is not the culprit; he is the victim. I would strongly urge some level of focus on the economy itself. 

Shahriar


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On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:14 AM, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Ejaz

I am sorry that I failed to make your eyes open. It is not good for
you and for the nation if very learned people like you are blind
folded. Please re-read what you have written. I very firmly believe
that you yourself will not feel good. I urge you to cool down. I and
you know that you are arguing for the sake of argument only
otherwise your arguments have no substance. Mr. Ejaz use of
difficult words will not let you win the argument. Simple and plain
words will make you understand better.

Mr. Ejaz, if I am not mistaken you are not living in Bangladesh. It
seems that you are least bothered about the suffering of commoners
in the country. Yours only and only consideration is that Khaleda
and Hasina are in jail. Do you realize the sufferings of common man
by price spiral? The economy of the country is sliding. But for you
it hardly matters, as your Kuwaiti Dinar is giving you more
Bangladeshi takas as price of taka is falling constantly. You are
still in the game of cards. Man, life is not a game of cards. In
real life spade is a spade and it is not the spade of cards.

Mr. Ejaz, I don't know about others but I will take it lightly when
you call ours a nation of sentimental beggars. After all you are
living in a place, where may be you are called "Muskeen" all the
time and that remains in your conscious and sub-conscious. We may
not be no.1 nation in the world but definitely we are not nation of
beggars.

Mr. Ejaz, did you ever thought what is going to happen after
December 2008. Oh! I am sorry. I should not ask you this question.
Anyway your posting is full of contradictions. About reforms, I will
suggest you to see what your beloved Gen. Moeen had to say, "Reforms
are internal affairs of political parties."

Mr. Ejaz, if one is dishonest, what may be the level of it; he
cannot justify it by stating that past Governments were dishonest. I
again say, don't make Khaleda and Hasina scapegoats for your
dishonesty. It is not at all acceptable to a common man. But you are
a very special man.

Last not the least, Mr. Ejaz since you are not living in the country
I am telling you some of the readings on the wall today in
Bangladesh. People are talking and concerned about the double
standards of CTG. But why should I tell you this as you are a blind
supporter of this CTG. However, just pray with me that this CTG
leaves power with dignity. We don't want any more bloodshed in the
country.

Regards

Junaid

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Junaid
>
> You have every right to call a spade a spade – as long as you don't
> run out of cards. By all means criticize – but you know well there
> are different types of criticism.
>
> What exactly was your sumptuous choice before Fakhruddin? Lets
have some honesty, some modesty. We not only suffer from mediocrity –
we suffer from mediocrity AND delusions of grandeur.
>
> What exactly makes you feel so politically wealthy? What are the
many
> options you have? After AL barristers and BNP barristers throw
chairs at each other in the courts what do you think is next in our
great democratic journey?
>
> Your own message betrays the delusions – however sincere – that
> blight our nation so cruelly -
>
> 1. AL and BNP have been ruining the social fabric of the nation for
> two decades. Yet you can still say this CTG, after less than a
year,
> is not far behind? You are kidding sir.
>
> 2. I can see the strong wall of honesty of the CTG - two dozen
> citizens – showing cracks. How would you describe the wall of
honesty
> of AL and BNP governments – more or less honest than the CTG? The
> wall was a sham and it is smashed in comparison with the CTG.
>
> 3. Even now you have the notion we should not make Hasina or
Khaleda
> scapegoats! What are they? Gods? Is it something about us Bengalis
> that doesn't mind two women ruining the country? That we would
rather
> see them free, running proudly through our green fields, regularly
> dumping on the nation's integrity and future?
>
> 4. Putting Hasina and Khaleda in jail does NOT turn them into
> heroines! Heroines for who? You? Or for a nation of sentimental
> beggars? They are not heroines for the majority and this theory is
> broadcast only by those who think we aren't capable of much. You
can
> breathe without Hasina and Khaleda - today. Try it.
>
> 5. The same ladies who drove our country to disaster are needed to
> hold the country together, to initiate and to apply sweeping
reforms.
> Because? Because you don't think we can handle affairs without
them.
> Why? Its disgraceful. Its shameful. Its pathetic. Its insulting.
>
> 6. Hasina and Khaleda are responsible for the mess – NOT the CTG.
The
> parties were only talking of reform BECAUSE THE CTG APPLIED
PRESSURE.
> Don't flatter yourself that the parties were ready for the reform
the
> nation is crying out for. They have neither the character nor the
> guts nor the tools to challenge the mafia within them. It is the
CTG
> that is setting the agenda for reform – not the parties. You may
wait
> another 10 years for the parties to reform but some know the
country
> can't wait that long - just to pander to political fantasies.
>
> They belong in jail. For what they have done, what they have
allowed
> to happen and for what they are preventing from happening. But you
> are worried about consequences. For 20 years you have seen the
> consequences of their freedom. But still it is not enough.
>
> They won't go abroad for a couple of years. They won't resign. They
> won't won't admit their faults. They won't compromise in their
> personal feuding. They won't sacrifice a term. They won't sweep
aside
> all their corrupt members.
>
> But you still think we need them?!!! I suggest any man who thinks
we
> need Hasina and Khaleda should be legally denied the right to
divorce
> his wife under any circumstances. After all, he should continue
> suffering just as he wants the nation to suffer with these two
> ladies!
>
> Or maybe we are nation of Dr Frankensteins - we just can't live
> without the monsters we have created?
>
> If you are right then I am totally convinced – we are indeed a
nation
> of beggars. Because our politics beggars belief.
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@>
> wrote:
> >
> > The events prior to 1/11 are eye-openers so it is time for
everyone
> > to open their eyes. We as a nation can not afford to have blind
> > supporters of any group. Sorry to tell you Mr. Ejaz, but we are
> not
> > beggars. We are and we want to be choosers. We have every right
to
> > call spade a spade. If the past AL or BNP governments with theirs
> > blunders have brought the country to the brink of disaster, the
> > present CTG is not trailing behind with a long distance. Their
> > failure list is much longer than their successes. The very strong
> > wall of the honesty of CTG is showing cracks. You should be able
to
> > see if you are not blind. We should be watchful of each and every
> > step of this Government and every future Government. Do we need
to
> > be critical of a Government after expiry of their term (in this
> case
> > it is 2 years, hopefully) or give them the opportunity to rectify
> > themselves during their tenure? And don't make scapegoats. We
have
> > heard enough of these scapegoats in the past. Enough is enough
now.
> >
> > Some may be over joyous that Hasina and Khaleda are in jail. They
> > are too blind to think about the consequences? The nation had
> > started ignoring these two ladies. People were talking about
> reforms
> > in political parties. By putting them in jail you have made them
> > heroes (or herions) again. Since they went in jail no body is
> > talking about reforms in political systems. Even Gen. Moeen had
to
> > say that reforms are internal affairs of political parties.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Not so blind
> >
> > Junaid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Ezajur Rahman, Bad people and Bad politics of Islam must be
> > removed
> > > not only from Bangladesh but all parts of the world.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Shamim Chowdhury
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
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> -
> > -----\
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are not allegations against
Hasina
> or
> > > > Khaleda. They are proven facts. Nothing to do with 'after a
long
> > > time'. After Mujib - Hasina! After Zia - Khaleda!
> > > >
> > > > If this CTG is guilty of the same you may criticise it - but
the
> > > > blame lies with Hasina and Kahleda for creating this
situation
> in
> > > > the first place.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not praying like the rest of the crooks and thieves and
> > > > murderers for a return to AL and BNP governmnet like before.
> > > >
> > > > Bad people are praying twice as hard as party people for
> > democracy.
> > > > Because Bangladeshi democracy protects and promotes criminals
> and
> > > > thieves.
> > > >
> > > > I have no problem with the family ties in this CTG because I
> > believe
> > > > it was done like this to maintain control in an emergency
> > situation.
> > > > We have 5 years to judge AL and BNP - we can wait another
year
> to
> > > > see the result of the CTG.
> > > >
> > > > In the emantime - how times have changed! Hasina and Khaleda
> > spent
> > > > Eid in jail!
> > > >
> > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That makes it all worthwhile!
> > > >
> > > > Miracles do happen!
> > > >
> > > > Allhamdullilah!
> > > >
> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > Kuwait
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mahathir of bd
> > > > wouldbemahathirofbd@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are two common allegations
> against
> > Al
> > > > and BNP. But this evil deeds became prevalent after a long
time
> > of
> > > > their power.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But our so called angel government showed nepotism and
> > > > family dynasty from the beginning by appointing brother in
law
> > and
> > > > sister in law as advisers.
> > > > >
> > > > > blind supporters of cTg then said that they are qualified
> > > > persons.
> > > > >
> > > > > No see how qualified they are .
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.amadershomoy.com/news.php?id=205729&sys=1
> > > > >
> > > > > And if we critisize the CTG , the blind suporters think
that
> > > > we are supporting AL or BNP.
> > > > >
> > > > > From the begining it was clear to me that this CTG run by
> > > > reactive and inexperienced and destructive people will bring
> > > > hardly any good to Bangladesh when we will make the balance
> > sheet.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
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> -
> > ----
> > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Subhan Allah- Only Allah flawless
> > > > > Alhamdulillah - All praise to be of Allah
> > > > > Allahhuakbar - Allah, the Greatest
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
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> -
> > --
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------Would
Be
> > > > Mahathir of BD
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
---
> -
> > --
> > > > -
> > > > > If it can be imagined, it is possible- NEC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
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answers,
> > not
> > > > web links.
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> > >
> >
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