Thanks to all logical, sensible, wise bloggers,
You and many of the logical, sensible, wise bloggers have given the logical, rational, fact based and nice reply. But these buggers (Overt & covert KHUNI Jamat, RAZAKAR, Al Badar, MEER JAFOR Mostaq-ZIA gong) do not read, study, research and do not spend time. Just jump on computers and write what ever they feel!
We always see that those GIAN PAPEE & ignorant anti Bangabandhu group-people-media who were continuously & blindly & deliberately & purposely or mistakenly or incorrectly criticise late Bangabandhu and blame him for nothing.
Those illiterate culprits ( KHUNI Jamat, RAZAKAR, Al Badar, MEER JAFOR Mostaq-ZIA gong) do not know the political incidents & history of associated, concern era and before that too!
Their boss, Paki Military Janta also tried their level best to 'prove' Bangabandhu was corrupt & got that land & house as "gift" or "bribe" (now what Fakar-Moin gong is trying to blame his daughter, Sheikh Hasina in the name of CHADABAZI) and Ayub got some DALAL too, like at the present. But Bangabandhu was released from the jail as a hero.
Overt & covert supporters of Jamat-RAZAKAR-PAKI-Muslim League (BNP is cocktail of these groups) are mostly illiterate (and few (can be numbered in hand) are "GIAN PAPEE"), so they have neither political knowledge nor knowledge of political history-events.
They know only telling lies, twisting the facts and creating doubt-confusion on settled matters by mixing some true and more false items by applying Goebbels theory!
"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"
Shuvechhante,
Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.
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Dear Mr. Muinuddin Afza and Mr. Khalid Hasan,
You may have missed a point.
The subject discussion was started by Mr. Enayet Ullah.
Now after receiving reaction to his ugly (I really have a more appropriate
adjective but do not feel like putting in public; but will definitely do so
if I would ever see this person) comments made on especially Bangabandhu he
is now downing his tone and writing the following:
Quote:
I never denied the place of Mujib in history of our Liberation in '71 -
yes, Seikh Mujib is the 'Father of
Bangladesh'.................................
unquote:
yet, it is Mr. Enayet Ullah who started the discussion under a subject "Hang
Seikh Mujib & corrupt Awami leaders".
And now he is writing Sheik Mujib is the Father of the Nation! I wonder if
this person really understands does the word father mean.
Eid Mubarak to you.
Best regards,
Morshed
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From: khabor@yahoogroups.com [mailto: khabor@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
khalid hasan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:01 PM
To: veirsmill@yahoo.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; enayet_2000@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [khabor.com] Attention........Muinuddin Afza..Hang Seikh Mujib
& corrupt Awami leader & a PIG
11107
Mr. Enayetulla:
How a serious intellectual level arguments could proceed when you have
already tried him and condemned him to hanging.
My reaction was against your choice of words when you talk about
Bangabandhdhu.
The intellectual level of talks as you claim is, if I may use your word,
"cheap".
If you want to talk about corruption and misrule, you must do that within
contextual reality the liberators had to work through.
Sit down and try to delve some more into the History you are seeking refuge.
Why famine happened? Why preventive measures could not be taken? These
are externalities beyond Bangabandhu's control. Petro dollar and Uncle's
dollars combined with the ready supply of expert planners it was not a
difficult job to find the "so called BIPOTHGAMI (decadent army men) and
purchased anyway. How cold Bangabandhu fight all sectors simultaneously.
Here he was a human being mistake prone! However, he chose the obvious--he
fell back to the trust and love of people for him and living in Road No 32.
He had the report about the black night but he just brushed that aside--so
deep was his trust on his people!
If you are really interested in intellectually stimulating discussion and
your so called "objective" analysis of the events in Bangladesh, sit down
and start seriously without using "adjectives" and playing all knowing all
demagogue.
There is no such thing objectivity even in our thought process. It is the
era of relativism. No absolutes!
We are facing two rising menace at a world level--between the "unipolar"
power base of so called decadent post imperialistic west and the
neo-regressive rather resurgent fundamentalists. We are being sandwiched.
Said that, now think which one is the greater evil. To have corruption in a
tolerable range or to have a so-called Afghan style Islamic "Sharia-vists"
rulled country; never mind the second option is not corruption free either!
Judge from this perspective. Albeit reasoning within this parameter cannot
be "so called objective"!
Any way, if you desist from making ugly comments and show some deference to
our father of the nation, I think no one will bother you; and your
intellectualism will peak—yes the peak of Mt. Everest!
thanks,
khalid hasan
101107
Mr. Enayetulla:
How a serious intellectual level arguments could proceed when you have
already tried him and condemned him to hanging.
My reaction was against your choice of words when you talk about
Bangabandhdhu.
The intellectual level of talks as you claim is, if I may use your word,
"cheap".
If you want to talk about corruption and misrule, you must do than within
contextual reality the liberators had to work through.
Sit down and try to delve some more into the History you are seeking refuge.
Why famine happened? Why preventive measures could not be taken? These
are externalities beyond Bangabandhu's control. Petro dollar and Uncle's
dollars combined with the ready supply of expert planners it was not a
difficult job to find the "so called BIPOTHGAMI (decadent army men) could be
purchased anyway. How cold Bangabandhu fight all sectors simultaneously.
Here he was a human being mistake prone! However, he chose the obvious--he
fell back to the trust and love of people for him and living in Road No 32.
He had the report about the black night but he just brushed that aside--so
deep was his trust on his people!
If you are really interested in intellectually stimulating discussion and
your so called "objective" analysis of the events in Bangladesh, sit down
and start seriously without using "adjectives" and playing all knowing all
demagogue.
There is no such thing objectivity in even in our thought process. It is
the era of relativism. No absolutes!
We are facing two rising menace at a world level--between the "unipolar"
power base of so called decadent post imperialistic west and the
neo-regressive rather resurgent fundamentalists. We are being sandwiched.
Said that, now think which one is the greater evil. To have corruption in a
tolerable range or to have a so-called Afghan style Islamic "Sharia-vists".
Judge from this perspective. Albeit reasoning within this parameter cannot
be "so called objective"!
Any way, if you desist from making ugly comments and show some deference to
our father of the nation, I think no one will bother you; and your
intellectualism will peak—yes
like Mt. Everest
& a PIG
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>Enyet Ullah, why you want to go away so early? Give us sometime to do
>objective discussion on your and your parent's birth history. And surely I
>will ask other to discuss their thoughts on your physical, rational and
>intellectual state and their recommendation to correct it.
>
> Please help us to help you!
>
>
>Enayet Ullah < enayet_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: Khalid Hassan:
>
>I did not really solicit to be a part of this forum. I
>am not a politician and I have NO interest in 'cheap
>politician and politics' like you.
>
>There is no need to make reference about my
>up-bringing. This is the lowest vilification anyone
>can go! Perhaps, you may have doubt about your own,
>please ask!
>
>We are discussing the most important historical event
>in Bangladesh and legacy of Mujib. I do not know your
>level of intellectuality, but, surely you either did
>not or could not understand my writings.
>
>That was an objective discussion about historical
>facts, the contribution of Mujib in our liberation and
>atrocities committed by his cronies looting 41
>billions dollars from our national treasury during
>post-liberation of his regime. Seikh Mujib was a
>human; he did both good and bad judgments. We learn
>from history as we analyze the events in the past.
>
>What really disheartening, people making derogatory
>comments and personal vilification. Those are
>low-blows and people who make those comments lack
>intellectual aptitude, unfortunately.
>
>This is my last email.
>And moderator, please remove my email from the list.
>
>Kind regards,> > >Ha ha ... Do you ever read what you write? It's all
>
>
>--- khalid hasan wrote:
>
> > 101007
> > Mr. Enayet Ullah
> > You know Allah told us all to refrain from making
> > derogatory comment about
> > others faith least they reciprocate and All will be
> > angry if you caused it.
> >
> > I despise your arrogance and your use of words, and
> > the attitude of a
> > psychopath or an illiterate coming up from the
> > dustbin. It is not worth
> > resonding your cmments about Bangabandhu. Did your
> > father teach you to
> > speak in this language, or did he lfst you in the
> > dustbin for the obvious
> > but deplorable reason, and the culture of GOLI(lane)
> > to rear you up?
> >
> > People like you should be banished from the forums,
> > and the forum moderators
> > should have shown the deferrence ato Bangabandhu and
> > excised you from the
> > forum. for good.
> >
> > I do not know what is the bacground ot the forum
> > organizers but their
> > callousness is of seriious concern for us all.
> >
> >
> >
> > For the sake of argument, why Indira Gandhi acted
> > the way she had.
> > Swaron Sing wanted India to get involved while
> > Defence Minister Yadov
> > opposed but was later pursuaded.
> >
> > Why Bangladesh issue was a cause for India? Just
> > because of Awami Lleague
> > under the leadership of Bangabandhu. It was the
> > leadership of Bangabandhu
> > that lead Awami League to a sweeping victory (162
> > MPs out of 300 all
> > Pakistan total members-Pakistan bangladesh combined)
> > and earned legitimacy
> > for Awami League to lead Mukti Judhdho(except the
> > Saudi Ar., Lybiea, US, and
> > China-a weired country with weird logic--opposing
> > the cause of Bangladesh),
> > and viability of Awami League for governence.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mumbo-jumbo!!
> > >
> > >Mujib maybe your god-father, not mine. I pay as
> > much respect as he
> > >deserve, nothing more and nothing less.
> > >Mujib is a part of history; as we learn history, we
> > need to take an
> > >analytical view, what he did right and what he did
> > wrong. And Seikh
> > >Mujib, by any means, is not an extra-ordinary
> > leader or visionary, not
> > >even an intellect! Please read his biography & his
> > rise in politics.
> > >
> > >There is nothing personal between you and me, and
> > it's all about legacy
> > >of Mujib. I am a very apolitical person, neither I
> > support Khaleda or
> > >Hasina or any corrupt lunatics.
> > >
> > >We need to fix this politics of corruption. We need
> > a new generation of
> > >politicians who can rise above the conventional
> > politics of corruption.
> > >
> > >Lets hope for a brighter tomorrow.
> > >
>
>
>
>
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