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Tuesday, November 27, 2007

[vinnomot] Re: [banglarnari] Re: Now Indian politicians want ban on "right to criticism of religion"

Dear Mr Hannan,
Academic questioning does not lead to spiritual growth of a person. One has to be like Nazrul-breaking all the cannons and experiment with life for upliftment of his mind.
 
"Let people of all countries and all times come together. At one great union of humanity. Let them listen to the flute music of one great unity. Should a single person be hurt, all hearts should feel it equally. If one person is insulted; it is a shame to all mankind, an insult to all! Today is the grand uprising of the agony of universal man"-Nazrul
 
Mullahs do not allow this experiments in the fear of losing their political control-that's why recently atrocities of the Mullahs against Fakirs and Bauls are on rise both in BD and WB.
Taslima also did experiment with life-you may oppose it-but one can not physically force her to stop when she didn't break any law in doing so.
 
Religion is not academics-it is realization through the process of life and not encrypted in the scripture.
 
Biplab
 
 


S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
Dear members and respected Mr Pal,
Assalamu Alaikum.I will respond only a few core points of the letter below of Mr.Pal.
 
I think Mr Pal has not fully appreciated Dr, Radhakrihnan.When Dr.Radhakrisnan says "a person's religion is never static--his realization changes with time--his  spiritual growth can only happen if he allows himself to question the doctrines and canons around him",he did not mean abusive attack of Taslima and Rushdie type, he only meant academic questioning.
 
We should admit that abusive attack on religion will create social turmoil and states should not allow this to happen.
 
2.I do not know who is sincere and who is insincere in the recent movement in West Bengal, who is politically motivated and who is not.But I honestly feel that Mr. Pal and some others fail to recognize the deep hurt of the Muslims in this regard.
 
It is somewhat natural that in this age of democracy and high politicization of life, people who want to enhance them politically will always take advantage of popular anger  or sentiment. 
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [banglarnari] Re: Now Indian politicians want ban on "right to criticism of religion"

Mr Hannan,
 Postmortem of Kolkata episode exposed that all 73 arrested for vandalism are local goons and have been convicted before not for once but for multiple crimes in the past. No way they are devout Muslim or pious people-simply criminals. It is difficult for me to understand how a true spiritual person can get 'hurt' if his faith is challenged since he is looking for truth and truth only.  As per Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan, one of our greatest philosopher on religion,  a person's religion is never static--his realization changes with time--his  spiritual growth can only happen if he allows himself to question the doctrines and canons around him. This has been the basic principle of spiritualism in Sufism, Upanishad and all Sahajia cults of Bengals which dominate landscape of Bangladesh and West Bengal even today. These people don't get hurt-they don't care that much for religion as they do for their daily one square meal a day. It is only people like you and the elites who are well fed and hungry for political power speak about spurious religious feeling to exploit it for political gain.
 
Indeed Calcutta incident proves it beyond any doubt. Idris Ali, the leader of minority forum who called this hartal  against Taslima did it solely to increase his political power among Muslims. He was a leader of minority cell of Congress. Immediately after the riot, he spoke before media stating that he has no clue how the youths took to vandalism when it was meant for peaceful demonstration. After two days, police traced all of his cell phone calls and proved beyond doubt that he instigated the youths for violence. He lied to the core and now has been exposed thoroughly by Calcutta police. CBI is suspecting that he even might be involved with Pakistani ISI . Now suspended from Congress, he is serving in Jail on 23 counts of offense for creating riot, beating police and communal tension. Does anybody think Idris Ali was religiously hurt?  Bullshit. He is just another criminal and liar. Will Mr Hanan admit him as 'good Muslim because he took to the street for 'ISLAM''?
 
Worst part is the role played by CPM supremo Biman Bose. Without investigating, he assumed that Muslims are 'HURT' and therefore dictated Taslima's expulsion. Truth is-most of the demonstrators were Urdu speaking and for sure they will not be able to name a single book by Taslima. However,  CPM is a democratic party and most of their leaders differed with Biman-after all they are serving the party for 40 years for a good reason and they know it too well, in long run, these fundamentalists are vote base for Congress and not for them. So they don't want to risk loyal moderate Hindu supporters switching to BJP. After all true leftists are rare to find anywhere. So appeasement is the only game left in the town. 
 
 Muslims leaders of CPM used to be better secular minded  than their Hindu counterparts in '70s and '80s--but they have been gradually removed from the party power because they could not gather much support among Muslim community.
 
 I have witnessed this gradual deterioration sadly. I have seen how Abdul Bari established CP(I)M in Murshidabad since 1970s. He was a close friend of my father and both once worked for leftist cause in Muslim dominated areas of Murshidabad. By 1982-84, Bari uncle was a frustrated man--he frequently complained how fundamentalist Muslims are rising on CPM ranks-and finally he was removed. He died broken heart. Today leaders like Muhammad Selim, Abu Sufian are the face of minority in CPM--who are at best Islamic leftists --a garden variety of Sonar Pathar Bati. There are exception like CPM MP Moinul Hossain, a young comrade who took ardent task to secularize Muslim community in village area by writing book and criticizing Islamic texts. But look what happened!  Last time he lost his seat because Congress capitalized his criticism and he was portrayed as Murtad. This is true secular character of Congress.
 
Taslima episode was needed to expose secularism of India. I am glad finally it has bounced back under the pressure of media-voice of people.
 
Thanks
Biplab
 


S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
Dear members,
 
Assalamu Alaikum.It is not really the issue that  religion or religious leaders are afraid of truth, the issue is social turmail, common people will never accept ugly criticism of religion.It is therefore better to restrict freedom in this regard (banning attack on religion or indect comment on religious personalities or prophets or scriptures).A great problem of the modern western civilization is its obsession with freedom, worshipping freedom whatever social and moral pollution it may create.
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: [banglarnari] Re: Now Indian politicians want ban on "right to criticism of religion"

If religion is all about truth, why are its followers so afraid of it's vulnerability toward scrutiny, criticism and rational analysis? What kind of truth does a religion hold that cannot withstand self-appraisal and evaluation? If a single reason is to be quoted as to why civilization has advanced where it is today, then it's that- great minds had never abandoned the practice and analysis of truth.
 
Jahed Ahmed  
 
 
   

Dr Biplab Pal <biplabpal2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
"Nobody has a right to criticise religion. I am a Muslim but I have no right to criticize Hindus or Hindu Gods or Sikhs or Christians.  In the Holy Quran, there is a verse which says you respect your religion and you respect other religions also. Now, when she has done this (blasphemous writing), she has been turned out of her country. India has given her asylum. If she wants to stay in peace and if she wants India to be in peace, she must not continue with that sort of dialogue," Dr Abdullah added.
 Biplab's addition:
 India is a liberal country because Hindu reformers like Ram Mohan, Vidyasagar, Vivekanda dared to criticize their religion and took to moderation as well as modernization.  Religion is a product of social evolution --that's why it is dynamic--there can never be a static form of a religion. Unless a religion is criticized, it can never be made vibrant and useful to meet the need of current time. Prof Abdus Salam said-greatest crime against Islam has been committed by not allowing it to subject to criticism--it is only criticism that would be taking out better interpretation of Islam.
 
According to Bhagbad Gita, it is duty of every Hindu to exterminate 'Bidharmi' in war--by all fair assessment, Muslims are aginst Sanatan dharma. Then according to Hinduism, all Hindus must exterminate Muslim population of India. Does Dr Abdullah want this?  Or say, given the amount of hatred against idolators in Quran, how a Muslim can love a Hindu if he has to go by scripture?
 
A religion must be continuously reformed to meet the standard of time.
 
Libreral democracy needs criticism of religion as essential oxygen for its meaningful evolution to a productive society.
 
Looks to me, people like Abdullah wants to convert India into Pakistan. However, good news is, yesterday West Bengal Govt officially declared that they are ready with security for Taslima and she can stay in Calcutta if she wishes. This has happened because  even today, there are still a lot of idealists are left in CPM and they have saved the party from ideological bankruptcy. Minister Subhash Chaktrabarty said, Taslima can stay in his house. Given the political clout of Subhash, I am sure nobody would dare to vandalize Taslima's stay in Calcutta again. We need a leftist strongman like Subhash to combat Islamists.
 
Biplab
 



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