Dear Alochok Zaheed
Many thanks for your call for good manners. Though to be honest I am
probably the one most guilty of bad manners : ) I am writing to you
because you have smashed the proverbial nail on the head by saying...
"...putting forth information, references, logic, anti-logic,
philosophy and morals..."
This is precisely the point - there is hardly any such debate
anywhere. People are so tied up in the technicalities, strategies,
problems, processes, etc that thorough political debate on the issues
(any issue) simply does not exist. Our papers are busy collecting
handouts, press releases, quotations and numbers. Our editors and tv
pundits are busy pondering the mechanisms of democracy and not the
meaning of democracy. And thats about it.
WHERE ARE THE GREAT NATIONAL DEBATES ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION,
ENVIRONMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN A MODERN
BANGLADESH? Sure there's a debate on food prices but that debate
happened because there was no choice.
Go to any BNP and AL meeting and talk to them about any of these
subjects. Some will look bewildered, some will get angry because you
didn't mention the 'nethri' and some will think you are a showoff
from abroad.
But get back to the fight for power and everyone is an expert! It's
like we're all stuck in a neverending third rate Hindi daytime soap
opera!
The Army is indeed the darwan. The electorate is the landlord. The
politcial parties are the tenants. The darwan has indeed taken
over because the tenants are wrecking the house and the landlord is
fed up. The darwan broke some flashy vases and ruined some precious paintings - but the house itself was saved.
As with all jonogonists, fancy talk about the lower classes
ultimately gave way to scornful disdain of the lowly darwan!
And personal attacks are all part of the fun - and a good measure of how effective one is :)
Best wishes
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Zaheed Naser <zaheed_naser@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Alochok,
>
> We all support a party, group or ideology one way or another and
speak for them in a direct or subtle way and dear Ejajur obviously
speaks for CTG and definitely is not the best friend of the two
begums! Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, I donft, whichever, I
read his writings with care and attention obviously because of the
fact that he knows how to dish it out well (and does he write well
when he is pissed off J). My attempt here is to draw attention to the
fact that we shouldnft get personal (licking and all that
phrases....) when we are indulging in an argument, we have the right
to speak for any party and we can do that by putting forth
information, references, logic, anti-logic, philosophy and morals and
anything except stooping down to the low level of attacking any
Alochok personally with indecent words!
>
> Regards,
> Zaheed
>
>
> Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@...> wrote:
> Do not wash your hands. Lick it for the rest of your
life. Did you jump on his feet? Moeen U Ahmed is a "Daroan" of the
Country. When a "Daroan" takes over the house, then everything
collapses.
>
> SH
> Toronto
>
> ezajur <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
> Khaleda Zia became BNP leader and PM because she is the wife
of Ziaur
> Rahman. BNP would have broken into various groups if the symbolism
of
> Khaleda was absent. Khaleda maintained her position by a network of
> patronage, corruption and the ruthless removal of all internal
> opposition.
>
> Hasina Wajed became AL leader and PM because she is the daughter of
> Sheikh Mujib. AL would have broken into various groups if the
> symbolism of Hasina was absent. Hasina maintained her postion by a
> network of patronage, corruption and the ruthless removal of all
> internal opposition.
>
> Tell it the way it is man Enot the way it makes your patriotic ego
> feel good.
>
> Where was I asking you to worship me or Moeen?
> You don't have the guts or the ability to write 20 strong lines
> against Hasina or Khaleda for anything.
> And that's why, in reality, you do worship them.
>
> I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who went after
> Nizami. I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who
went
> after Salauddin Qader Chowdhury. But I don't expect you to
understand
> that. Please continue with the pechali, bhejali rubbish that has
> ruined our country.
>
> The same ladies you admire were crazy to give malas to Dr Yunus
when
> he got the Nobel Prize. But when he dared to enter politics they
> hurled abuse at him like the selfish hypocrites they are. Even
though
> as a citizen he is perfectly entitled to enter politics. Becasue
these Royal Begums can't stand anyone else in their Kingdom.
>
> Don't give me that jonogonist mumbo jumbo. That's for the Royal
> Khaleda and Royal Hasina to say during their campaigns.
>
> I haven't lost my mind. I just see that something is better than
> nothing.
>
> Are you looking forward to the election man and making some money
if
> Hasina and Khaleda become PM? I am! If Hasina and Khaleda become PM
> I'm going to make some real money. Deshi style! Talk the jonogon
talk
> and fill my pockets with the nation's money at the same time.
>
> Maybe I could write a book: HOW TO MAKE MONEY WITH AL AND BNP EFOR
> DUMMIES.
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh on her own credit
> and elected by the people. She was not there by virtue of the
mighty
> gun. 99% of Bangladeshis belong to lower-middle or middle class. To
> what class Mr Ezajur belong to? To what class Gen Moen Uddin Ahmed
> belong to? Royal class? Are you asking us to worship you? Sorry I
am
> not worshiping Hasina or Khaleda. Both of them are leading two
large
> political parties for more than two decades. They posses strong
> leadership qualities. Your Gen Moen has tried to form one political
> party with the help of C grade politicians and Nobel Prize winner
but
> has failed to even kick off.
> >
> > These army boot lickers have lost their minds.
> >
> > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > Dear Alochoks
> >
> > Or perhaps I should prefer the State visit of Khaleda to Kuwait a
> > couple of years ago. Yes, perhaps her visit was more dignified
than
> > the visit of Moeen U Ahmed.
> >
> > She wanted to buy some jewellery. She was advised that the finest
> > jewellers in Kuwait would happily take a wide selection of pieces
> to
> > her hotel. She was advised to go to a prestigious location. But
she
> > took the advice of some idiots and went to one of the worst gold
> > markets in Kuwait. As she walked through the shops onlookers were
> > bemused by her entourage. Who is she? Why is she here? The market
> > that seldom saw an upper middle class Indian was now graced by
the
> > Prime Minister of Bangladesh. Of course our jonogonists will say
> she went to the shops of the common man. But of course she bought
> nothing
> > there and in the end went to an exclusive shop and purchased a
few
> > trinkets and baubles - costing well beyond the dreams of the
common
> > man. Any idea how much she spent?
> >
> > Good old Bangladeshi democracy.
> >
> > It's a slapstick comedy.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Alochoks
> > >
> > > On the other hand perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps I should prefer
> > Hasina
> > > to Moeen U Ahmed. Perhaps I should prefer her State visit to
> Kuwait
> > > back in 2000. The businessmen of AL held a reception for her in
> the
> > > Grand Ballroom of the Sheraton Hotel. Perhaps I should be proud
> of
> > > when the Foreign Minister, Abdus Samad Azad, declared that the
> > > audience should shout `Joy Bangla' in honour of The Nethri. And
> as
> > > the chandeliers shook to the refrain of a 800 idiots chanting
Joy
> > > Bangla the front rows of VIPs, Ambassadors, MPs and Ministers
> > quickly
> > > and quietly escaped through the side doors. And the
receptionists
> > and
> > > security men ran around the hotel like headless chickens. And
> other
> > > guests thought some terrorists had attacked. And like a
brilliant
> > > Foreign Minister he turned to one side of the crowd and raising
> his
> > > hand urged them to shout even louder because he could not hear
> > them.
> > > And Hasina just smiled with happiness.
> > >
> > > The Sheraton Hotel, the oldest and most prestigious hotel in
> > Kuwait,
> > > entwined with the very history of Kuwait itself, witness to the
> > > graciousness of a 1,000 stately receptions over the decades,
had
> > just
> > > seen its most ungracious day.
> > >
> > > But then who cares that the rest of Kuwait just thought:
> > >
> > > What else do you expect from the Prime Minister and Foreign
> > Minister
> > > of the cleanersElt;BR>> >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > Kuwait
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Saeed Bhai
> > > >
> > > > Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake his
hand
> and
> > > > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you might be
> > thinking
> > > > for Hasina or Khaleda : )
> > > >
> > > > He is certainly not one of the greatest personalities on
> > > > earth but definitely one of the bravest in Bangladesh.
> > > >
> > > > The future does not belong to him or me. But it belongs to
all
> of
> > us
> > > > who want a Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all that
> > they
> > > represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the possibilty of
> that
> > > future exists only because of the courage of the CTG. Not
because
> > of
> > > anyone else or anything else.
> > > >
> > > > What is this apple polishing you speak of? What do you know
> about
> > > > real apple polishing? Look at what our people do with Hasina
and
> > > > Khaleda - the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the
> malishing,
> > > > the thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking! We
> > could
> > > > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention that
> will
> > > you.
> > > > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to talk about me and my
> > > > handshake.
> > > >
> > > > And what is this pity you feel? What do you know about real
> pity?
> > > > Where is your pity for our people who are made fools of by
> > > > politicians year after year with lie after lie? Where is your
> pity
> > > > for a democracy where democracy ONLY means that political
> > operatives
> > > > are allowed to do anything they want? Where is your pity for a
> > > > democracy where if you challenge the leader of your party
your
> > house
> > > > gets burned down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable
truths.
> > Far
> > > > easier to talk about me wishing the General well.
> > > >
> > > > You should wish him well too. For because of him the voter
> rolls
> > > will
> > > > be more accurate than ever before. The voting booths will be
> more
> > > > secure than ever before. The vote count will be more
legitimate
> > than
> > > > ever before. The voters will be safer than every before. Your
> > dream
> > > > will come true - you will have your free and fair election
> between
> > > > corrupt parties.
> > > >
> > > > I don't dream of a future where unelected, unaccountable
> officials
> > > > are forced to act because of the stupidity of elected
> > politicians. I
> > > > dream of a future where AL and BNP behave like proper
democratic
> > > > parties in a modern Bangladesh. And the CTG has done more to
> > achieve
> > > > that than the Central Committees of AL or BNP. People who
slam
> the
> > > > CTG and claim to be neutral never ever talk about AL and BNP.
> If
> > > they
> > > > did then they would be really making a difference.
> > > >
> > > > Look at our country. Be honest. We have far more to pity than
> > Moeen
> > > > and Fakhruddin and dreamers like me.
> > > >
> > > > By the way - who do you think I should vote for? Hasina or
> > Khaleda?
> > > > Why? Convince me without insulting me : )
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > Kuwait
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > > > <saeedurrehman92@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > > > >
> > > > > Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the biggest
> > > > > achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands after
> > shaking
> > > it
> > > > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must preserve the scent of him
on
> > > your
> > > > > hands. The future definitely belongs to you because you
> shaked
> > > hands
> > > > > with one the greatest personality on earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really don't feel bad feel bad when I read a writing like
> > this.
> > > > Nice
> > > > > piece of apple polishing. I, however, feel pity for a
nation
> in
> > > > which
> > > > > people like this exists.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saeed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Alochoks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking
the
> > hand
> > > > of
> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an official visit to
Kuwait.
> > > > Whilst
> > > > > > he was largely surrounded by people who supported the CTG
> and
> > > who
> > > > > > were showering him with their views I got the opportunity
on
> > > > behalf
> > > > > > of all supporters of the CTG to wish him good health,
long
> > life
> > > > and
> > > > > > continued success. He reiterated that the nation needed an
> > > > election
> > > > > > in December 2008.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Moeen U Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I remain
> > > > defiantly
> > > > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that change is
> > possible.
> > > > > > Because of such men even politicians now believe that
> change
> > is
> > > > > > possible. That change, so desperately needed, must
finally
> be
> > > > decided
> > > > > > by our politicians. But there is no doubt that it is
these
> > men
> > > who
> > > > > > threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that the
> teams
> > > > play
> > > > > > sincerely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And for those who think that standing next to Hasina or
> > Khaleda
> > > > is a
> > > > > > greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus, Dr
> > > > Fakhruddin or
> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if your dreams come true,
the
> > > future
> > > > > > still does not belong to you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir
> > faruquealamgir@
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS THEM AS THE GREATEST INTELIGENT SO
> THE
> > > CASE
> > > > > > WITH OUR FRIEND....................................
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Faruque Alamgir
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi s_ayubi786@
> > > > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech
> > > > > > was an excellent one. Why nitwits like yourself criticise
> him
> > is
> > > > > > beyond my comprehension. Instead of using a very famous
> man's
> > > name
> > > > > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name. You are
> > > > > > disgracing a great man. You with your level of
intelligence
> > will
> > > > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man achieved in
his
> > > > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding people. I do
not
> > feel
> > > > > > that the country is safe in the hands of our kind of
> > > politicians,
> > > > > > most of whom do not have the basic education behind them.
> Era
> > > > shobai
> > > > > > foot pather neta. bhalo kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho
eder
> > > > > > akebarei nei.
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/13/08, mahathir of bd
wouldbemahathirofbd@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@
> > > > > > > Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made us
> > laugh
> > > by
> > > > > > your sermon
> > > > > > > To: tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com,
chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > khabor@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > তà§à¦®à¦¿ কর মঈনà§E¦°
> > > > > > লà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿ à¦E¦°
> > > > > লà§E¦•à¦šà¦¾à¦°
> > > > > > ছাà§Eলà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿ না
> > > > > করার
> > > > > > জনà§à¦¯ ।
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > দà§à¦°à¦¬à§à¦¯à¦®à§‚লà§à¦¯à§E¦°
> > > > > কষà§à¦Ÿà§E¦°
> > > > > > মধà§à¦¯à§E¦" হাসির খà§&lsqauo;র
াà¦Elt;BR>> > > > যà§&lsqauo;à¦Elt;BR>> > > > > াà¦E¦²à¦¾ ফখর
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > à¦E¦E¦¨à§E¦° ধার
> > > > > > া সà§à¦¥à¦—িত বা শিথিল,
> > > > > > লà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿
> > > > > রাজনীতির à¦Elt;BR>> > > > >
পসংসà§à¦•à§E¦¤à¦¿ থà§E¦•à§Elt;BR>> > > > উ
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> > > > > à¦E¦E¦¨à¦¿
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à§à¦¬à¦¾à¦šà¦¨à§E¦° à¦E¦Elt;BR>> > > > > à§Eউপজà§E¦²à¦¾,
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> > > > > নির
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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