RE: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Cleric lectures Muslim men on how to discipline their wives:

ill-educated saudis + fanatic pakistanis + few militant Bangladeshi muslims, dont represent Islam/the muslim world.
 
Young muslims in western countried should appreciate that and learn about islam from the appropriate, moderate, flexible, humourous,
educated, balanced muslims. People misusing religion for varieties of reasons IS NOTHING NEW, those who want to get inspiration + guidance
from Islam, will continue to do so, by the blessings of Allah.
 
we should condemn violation of women's rights and let others know that wise, educated, non-violent, friendly muslims exist too.
 
 
dr. maqsud omar
sydney

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To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: turkman@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:46:19 -0800
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Cleric lectures Muslim men on how to discipline their wives:

If no reform in Islam takes place, our coming generation in the Western countries would start feeling ashamed of being Moslim. --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:     Yet another violation of rights of women due to ignorance of the very precepts of the Holy Qur'an that attempt to restore women their rights as Allah's 'best creation'.      It comes from the Land of Jahiliya, otherwise known as the KINGDOM of Saudi Arabia.      Mired in jahiliya they cannot even sense the unintended humor!   [Consider this: In the rest of the world, it is people who are named after the name of the land of their origin (or 'asli' in Arbi) -- thus people from Germany are called Germans, people from China are called Chinese, people from Bengal or Bangla are called Bengali or Bangali, etc. Where in the modern world is a country that is named after the personal name of a family?]                Farida Majid Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:29:59 -0400 Subject: "Beat her like a Lady" :: Saudi Cleric lectures Muslim men on how to discipline their wives: Saudi Cleric lectures Muslim young men on how to beat their wives BEAT HER  LIKE A LADY From a television program aired last year in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait during which cleric Muhammad al-'Arifi advised young men on how to discipline their wives.  Translated from the Arabic by the Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute. http://www.memritv. org/clip/ en/1594.htm   "Men beat women more often than women beat men. Allah created women delicate, fragile, supple, and soft because they use their emotions more than they use their bodies. While a man may use beating to discipline his wife, she sometimes uses her tears to discipline him. For men, women's emotions may be fiercer than the strike of a sword.   "Before you beat a woman, first admonish her—once, twice, three times, four times, or ten. If this doesn't help, you must turn to the teaching "refuse to share their beds." Thus, a husband distances himself from his wife in bed and in conversation. If a husband comes to eat a meal and his wife asks him, "How are you? Do you want anything?" he must not answer. The husband should not sleep with his wife. He should sleep in another room.   "If this does not help, then the husband's third option is to beat his wife lightly so it will not leave a mark. He must not make her face ugly. Beating in the face is forbidden. Even if you want your camel or donkey to walk faster, you are not allowed to beat it in the face. If this is true for animals, it is all the more true for humans. If a man is angry with his wife—if he says to her, "Watch out, the child has fallen next to the stove," and she says, "I'm busy"—then the husband should beat his wife with a toothpick or something like it. He should not beat her with a bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. Notice how gentle the toothpick used for beating is—this shows you that the purpose is not to inflict pain. When you beat an animal, you intend to cause it pain so that it will obey you, because a camel would not understand if you said, "Camel, come on, start moving." A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but to a wife, a light beating conveys,  "Woman, you have gone too far."   "A husband should not beat his wife like he would a child, slapping it right and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they get angry, and when they start the beating, they use both hands and sometimes their feet, as if they are punching a wall. Remember, brother, this is forbidden; your wife is a human being. Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. Learn Now

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