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Monday, December 8, 2008

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Mumbai Massacre and Lesson for India

Why Muslims are oppressed everywhere in the world, including Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, and Turkey, such that they need to resort to terrorism?
Jiten Roy

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Sukhamaya Bain@yahoo.com <Sukhamaya Bain@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sukhamaya Bain@yahoo.com <Sukhamaya Bain@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Mumbai Massacre and Lesson for India
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 10:04 PM

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, A.H. Jaffor Ullah@yahoo. com <A.H. Jaffor Ullah@yahoo. com> wrote:
 
".......This is my observation that whenever someone supports Kashmiris self-determination, then he or she becomes automatically a Muslim lover. I for one have no Muslim friends in Greater New Orleans area. I do not mingle with people who are overtly religious. ......"
 
Let me ask Dr. Ullah some questions:
 
1. If the USA had most of the white people with the human quality of the average Bangladeshi/ Pakistani Muslim elite and they were doing their 'self-determination ', do you think slavery would have gone away from this country by now, let alone Barack Obama becoming the President?
 
2. If the Muslims of Turkey, Algeria and Egypt had their 'self-determination ', what would be the nature of those states now? Secular or Islamic?
 
3. If the Muslims of Kashmir had their 'self-determination ', why would you think that the non-Muslims of that land would be treated in their ancestral land better than what the non-Muslims of Bangladesh and Pakistan are getting in theirs?
 
4. You talk about the UN resolution calling for a plebiscite in the India-controlled Kashmir, why don't you talk about the same resolution that calls for Pakistan to vacate the part that it occupied illegally? (The sovereign at the time, the King, did not ask Pakistan to come in, he did ask India. In legal terms, all of Kashmir belongs to India.)
 
5. Why would I have to tell the average 'secularist' Muslim of Bangladesh that a Muslim majority state should not mean that it was supposed to be a part of Pakistan?
 
Some more thoughts:
 
If I were convinced that Kashmir as an independent state or as a part of Pakistan would respect the human and citizenship rights of the non-Muslims of that land, I myself would have advocated Kashmiri self-determination.
 
To me, the lesson for India from the Mumbai massacre is that India is being run mostly by people who are inept, corrupt, do not know how to respect the life and dignity of their own innocent people, and are incapable of leading a respectable nation.
 
May be, I am not very good at human psychology. It is really hard for me to explain why Dr. Ullah has no Muslim friends in the Greater New Orleans area, and he does not mingle with people who are overtly religious; yet he has no problem in allowing another part of the subcontinent (Kashmir) to fall into the 'Muslim Ummah'. I have no idea why Dr. Ullah is unable/unwilling to analyze the human rights situations in Bangladesh/Pakistan and be afraid of what would be coming to Kashmir under the Muslim 'self-determination '.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

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