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Monday, March 23, 2009

RE: [ALOCHONA] Faith and Fear.

This is a very powerful and pragmatic presentation. As a matter of fact if we consider all religions as a thought process like, history, philosophy, logic, sociology and literature then religion does not become a matter of conflict with reason. It's stupid to demand that the Koran should be modified because this book is a historical document which gives us a very clear idea of the prevailing social conditions in the 7th century Arabia nothing more than that. But things turn into conflict when mullahs invoke fables to overwhelm facts. When they insist dire facts to be replaced by fairy tales. I know many people once who were my close friends but now they have decided to abstain from my funeral because they consider me a murtaad. These fools do not understand that in reality a dead body does not have any religion. This inability ignited by fear to see and meet reason is a stonewall to further enlightenment. If the mullahs think that God is the fountain of all knowledge then they should not ask people to stop questioning. There is a smart and very cunning ploy adopted by some so called educated Muslims by bringing in the notion of Ijtihad. O yeah Ijtihad is fine as long as you are in the five pillars of Islam. Nonsense.

 

 

Akbar Hussain


 




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From: Kraisuddin@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:43:12 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Faith and Fear.

How many people have gone through the sieves of filtrations of thoughts, researches, findings, philosophy, truths, and obviousness. I stress obviousness over everything else. We human species has to sustain on the face of the earth for unforeseeable time. This is only possible if we adopt to obviousness at the time of ones existence. If anyone believes that the earth is only 4 thousand years old and as per the scriptures angels sculptured the Adam in the Arshe Mualla and Hawa was created from the Adam's bones and then Allah accused the chief of the angels and made him Shaitan and he only belongs and lives with the non-muslims, please don't bother me. You live with your legend and do whatever you want but I am not associating with the fairy tales. I have other thins to see as deems real and practical to me. Folks who hails obviousness, are the only ones I would like to associate and discuss and share my thoughts. The legend driven people are living within the closed box and this locked box is not allowing them to see the open world, its beauty, its truth, its limitless contributions to its inhabitants, not only humans, but all living and non-living entities within its realms. A fictitious outside the earth entity has nothing to do with its development and sustenance. The ozone layer playing the role of an egg shell let and is protecting the entire creation of the lives on the surface of the earth and under soil and under water. Life started in water and overtime moved on the surface. One specie got developed as humans, in millions of years, not definitely in 4 thousand years, suddenly as full-fldged humans. The legends may say it but it is definitely not obvious. All legendary theories of creations are quite unobvious,  absurd, and dead wrong. Just a few examples: Earth is not flat but round. Sun does not go around the earth rather earth goes around the sun. Moon is not equivalent to sun. Sun binds earth and earth binds moon. There is no existence of seven skies over which the legendary Arshe Mualla exists. These are like gazar kolki. No onw could yet prove the real existence of legendary angels or the ghosts or any entities called devil. These are all basically humans at their different stages of modes or actions. Their birthing theory is ridiculous too. The medical, health, and bio-science could not find, as scriptures say that the man's semen in the woman's womb produces a blood  clot in 40 days and the baby is formed soul comes in the heart of the baby in 4 months. Medically it is not true. No science, research, or experiments could find the existence of soul on any living creatures including the humans. The human bodies are all self functional, no driver as a soul, and is a complex bio-mechano-electro-chemical entity having brain as the central control area and the heart as just nothing but a blood pump to distribute nourishments to the entire body to keep all cells alive. Lungs take oxygen that is a must requirement to keep all cells alive. Brain provides cognizence and controls of all other limbs. At the death, all becomes no-functional, body gets rotten and converts into the mineral ingredients. That's where all is over. So, life has only one span and definitely the scripture is wrong when it says, "Adduniya mazraa tul Ukhra" means this world is the growing and reaping field for the hereafter. The concept of hereafter makes no sense to humans. Then where are their truths of all these said in the scriptures? The scripture's value is  just to be a legend and nothing else. However, billions of hours of useful time is being wasted by listening the words of scriptures. Preachers are inhumanly forcing people into permanent slavery of the religions. Unrealistic things and actions are being made mandatory to the followers, using the tactics of the carrot and sword. Making the followers extremely greedy for so called heaven where they are being promised to get huge numbers of most beautiful ladies as the sex partners and an extremely peaceful life of leisure and comfort. These are all nothing but bogus. These things were possibly believable to the arabian hoarder nomads about thousands of years ago but is quite unrealistic and nonsense in these days. Can we think about all these and plan our lives and the lives of our future generation, giving the touch of reality and obviousness rather than making all lives measurable falsifying the real truths? Thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
 


To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: akbar_50@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:24:02 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Faith and Fear.

Some one in the forum has asked me about my ancestry. I am not surprised because if fear overcomes ones faith he/she may raise this question. Religious extremism needs to be castigated, abhorred and must be stopped. A philosophical basis of faith takes precedence over any institutionalized religion. It generates freedom from fear and relief from dogmatism. No logic or political opportunism can be the basis of Muslim anger which is sweeping this faith now. No one can conquer the world or defeat the so called infidels by suicide bombings. The stupid idea of a theological Islamic state is nonsense. There was never anything like that in history or even now. Sharia law is a medieval mechanism which is a repugnant idea now. The so called Islam lovers who want to start a holy war to bring back the seventh century Islam are just hypocrites and a bunch of fools living in a fantasy world devoid of any pragmatic principles. This is a very dangerous trend must be faced and fought.

 

Akbar Hussain



 

   



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