According to Tabari, Abu Bakr Siddique was poisoned to death. In the
Madina(even the name of the place was changed from Yatrib) society, the Jews
were evicted and slaughtered like cattle. THe Madina charter did not
protect them.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM, <> wrote:
>
>
> Mr. S.A. Hannan, As a Muslim I find it hard to believe a real Muslim will
> support the mockery on Allah, Islam and his prophet (PBOH).
>
> You said -Restoration of 72 constitution will mean deleting faith in Allah
> as a pillar of state policy, restoration of socialism, deleting Bismillahir
> Rahmanir Rahim ( in the name of beneficent and merciful Allah) and also
> banning all Islamic parties.-
>
> Let us analyze each point you made from Islamic perspective:
>
> Nineteen Seventy Two constitution of Bangladesh, which we (Muslim, Hindu,
> Christian, Buddhist and other faith) earned waging an independence war that
> you and Jamaat-e-Islami vehemently opposed not using peaceful means but
> waging a war against people of Bangladesh.
>
> I thank you for correctly stating the words restoration of 1971, what it
> mean is going back to its ideological originality with what the country was
> founded. Bangladesh triumph over Pakistan burying the false notion of
> two-nation theory, which divided Muslims, and Hindus as different therefore
> each of them needed separate state.
>
> What the law minister said has no forceful innovation. Democratically
> elected parliament constructed 1972 constitution on the other hand inclusion
> of Islam as state religion, faith in Allah, inclusion of Bismillah and
> allowing religion to be used as tool for politics rather then worshipping
> Allah was not constituted by parliament rather proclamation by undemocratic
> military regime.
>
> Now with the history in hand tell me Mr. S.A. Hannan, who waged the
> ideological warfare by changing the constitution? Is it the constitutionist
> of 1972 or the later proclamationists' military government?
>
> Four pillars of 1972 constitution may not be Islamic but it was not anti
> Islamic or to defame Islam. But later change in constitution by autocratic
> Gen. Zia and Gen. Ershad regime is not just anti democratic but surely anti
> Islamic as well, here is my argument as a Muslim, please read.
>
> Constitution of any country is the mother of all law and must to follow to
> its fullest strength, right? Under the framework of constitution, all other
> laws such as Civil Law, Criminal Law, Land Law etc, right?
>
> Here is very important point; any law, which contradicts with the mother of
> all law therefore constitution, then the sub laws (Civil, criminal etc)
> becomes null and void, right?
>
> Now let me come to the point. Current constitution puts its faith in Allah,
> calls Bangladesh as a Muslim state, and puts Bismillah Hir Rahmanir Rahim
> (In the name of Allah ……) in the preamble of constitution. Therefore,
> logic will be all law, which has been adopted in the constitution will be
> followed by rule of Allah, right?
>
> Now, Mr. S.A. Hannan, please tell me as a Muslim how in the world a
> constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly Quran
> in the preamble, claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law which
> authorizes a 18 years or old girl to get laid by getting state issued
> prostitution license!!!!! ! Mr. Hannan, I say Nousubillah, will you say that
> too?
>
> Constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly
> Quran in the preamble, claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law
> which authorizes one to get state issued license to open bar to serve
> alcoholic beverage!!!! Mr. Hannan, what will be your answer to that?
>
> Constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly Quran
> (Rahim ( in the name of beneficent and merciful Allah) in the preamble,
> claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law which authorizes one to
> get state issued license to drink alcoholic beverage!!!! ! Mr. Hannan, what
> will be your answer to that?
>
> Constitution that starts in the name of Allah and puts Aiyaa of holly Quran
> in the preamble claims Islam as state religion constitutes Civil Law that
> authorizes one to get state issued license to setup gambling!!!!. Mr.
> Hannan, I say Nousubillah will you say that too?
>
> Mr. S.A. Hannan, I with very limited knowledge in Islam as well as
> constitutional laws can site hundreds of anti Islam, Anti Allah, Anti Rasul
> (PBOH) law that goes against the preamble of constitution that starts with
> in the name of Allah….
>
> I am ashamed that Muslims of Bangladesh does not understand that by
> inclusion of Allah and his religion Islam in our constitution and calling
> our state religion as Islam is nothing but mockery, disrespect and
> ridiculing Islam for mere political gain by mischief politician's certainly
> not out of love for true Islam.
>
> Merciful Allah who created this earth and our solar system, allowed it to
> be inhibited by those who believe in Allah and those who do not. Gave them
> knowledge to find the truth and said, on the Day of Judgment you will be
> asked how you used your knowledge, until then you are on your own to belief
> or disbelief. Alas, we being the creation of Allah wants to change the rule
> of creator and make rules contrarily to his rule and appoint our self as
> judge for our makeshift judgment day. This is very sad that we are not ready
> to wait until his called judgment day but wants to handle it on our own.
>
> Inclusive Islam that spread like a breakneck stream throughout the world
> with the word Salam to all, believers and non-believers alike now only wants
> to embrace ones and disowned the others.
>
> Mr. S.A. Hannan, you said
>
> What is the need for doing all these? Islamic provisions in the
> constitution are not any problem because Islam *grants all other
> religious communities* all fundamental rights ( Madinan society under the
> Prophet is the greatest proof where Jews were granted all civil, political
> and religious rights under the constitution made by the Prophet. ).It is
> true that in a state where Muslims are in great majority, Islam will get
> special position .This does not create any problem because other
> communities' rights are properly protected as per Islam.In entire history of
> Islam , all Muslim states whether Khulafae Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid,
> Mughals or Usmani regime in Istambul, Islam had very special position. It
> was natural thing.This should remain so
>
> Mr. Hannan who gave you the authority to GRANT when Allah granted this
> world to all. Its land, its air, its stream of water then what right you
> have to use the word grant being a recover of his mercy. . Let me point you
> to an argument, Muslim living in US a christen majority country do not
> curtail their religious beliefs too, what will be your argument Mr.. Hannan.
>
> Religious rights of other faith prevailed on the days our Rasul (PBUH), but
> no longer in many cases in many Muslim majority places. Practice of religion
> of other faith is no longer allowed in Mecca . What that means Mr. Hannan,
> is it not Islam in the hands of creation changed the creators rule!!!
>
> Unnecessarily as an argument to special treatment to Islam, you said:
>
> All Muslim states whether Khulafae Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Mughals or
> Usmani regime in Istambul, Islam had very special position. It was natural
> thing.This should remain so..
>
> It was Allah's wish, and Sahabaya Ikram's judgment, that after the death of
> our fourth Khulafa-e-Rashideen the Political Islam ended because by then it
> was clear that this could not sustain rather it creates Fitna among Muslim.
> Out of four Khalifah three of them was brutally murdered
>
> *First Khalifah* Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddique (radhiyallahu anhu) death was
> normal
>
> *Second Khalifah* Hadhrat Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) died in the hands of
> Abu Lu'lu', the Majúsi (fire-worshipper)
>
> *Third Khalifah* Hadhrat Uthman Ghani (radhiyallahu anhu) was brutally
> martyred on 18th Thil Hajj, 35 Hijri. When he was martyred, he was reciting
> the Qur'aan Majeed. His blood fell on the aayat:
>
> *Fourth and last Khalifah *Hazrat Ali (radhiyallahu anhu) was martyred by
> Abdur Rahman Ibn Muljim on 18th of Ramadan in Kufa
>
> Your mentioned Umayyad, Abbasid, Mughals or Usmani regime in Istambul are
> nothing but Kingship, which is very against the rule of Islamic theology, so
> no comments.
>
> Mr. Hannan you said:
>
> Dear sirs, there is no need for a new ideological war in this county, It
> will create serious conflict and turmoil and where it will end up only Allah
> knows.No body can be sure such change made will be sustained later..I urge
> al of you to keep watch over the situation and to save the country from
> such conflict and turmoil .Bangladesh has so many problems, we should not
> open this new major problem.If any of you can influence Awami League
> leadership ,you should do so.
>
> Mr. Hannan we hard this Jamaat-e-Islami political stunt rhetoric in 1971.
> When the entire nation was waging a war of liberation, Jamaat-e-Islami said
> the same thing. Their political doctrine of saving Pakistan to salvage
> Islam leaded them to contribute of bloodshed of Bengalis by forming
> Pakistani collaborator jalim Rajakar.
>
> Mr. Hannan, you said - serious conflict and turmoil and where it will end
> up only Allah knows.
>
> Nevertheless, you know that scare technique did not work in 1971 therefore;
> it will not work this time too. Serious conflict and turmoil of 1971 created
> Bangladesh , this time it will create Razakar free Bangladesh . Last time
> there was clemency because of Bangabandhu a lion hart man, this time there
> is none to pronounce clemency.
>
> If not literal then Bangladesh must choose to go back to the spirit of 1972
> constitution. This is the demand of the time for the survival of Bangladesh
> and to keep the promise given to fallen comrades.
>
> Shamim Chowdhury
>
> Maryland, USA
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alochona@yahoogroups.com>,
> "S A Hannan" <sahannan@...> wrote:
>
> Dear members of the list,
>
> Assalamu Alaikum. I will only add that the freedom fighters did not
> fight against Islam as far as I have come to know from them., they
> fought against discrimination against this province by central
> authorities.
>
> In 1970 election manifesto they did not say a word against Islamic
> constitution or that they would add a provision banning Islamic
> parties.They violated their promise.
>
> Bangladesh is still based ontwo nation theory, other wise it can not
> have this border.
>
> Where as inclusion of secularism was a violation of Awami League
> manifesto of 1970, the restoration of Islamic provisions through the
> Parliament and referendum in 1977 was a lawful act.
>
> For Muslims, no constitution is above the teaching of the Quran, for
> that reason it is always better to make constitution in a Muslim country
> in line with Islam.
>
> The lomg letter writer has mentioned about some un-Islamic activities
> happening in Bangladesh ( some prostitution and drinking etc)even
> though throe is Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim in the beginning of the
> constitution.The only course for this is to eradicate those things in
> due course of time, not to delete Bismillah.It is a negative
> thinking.There are not many anti-Islamic laws now in Bangladesh.Only a
> few laws are there where a few sections have to be changed in the light
> of Islam and we hope somr government now or in future will do that and
> in this process continuance of Article 8 A will be helpful ( Faith in
> Almighty Allah is the basis of all actions of the state.
>
> I agree West has good points but it is also true that western
> civilization has produced many evil concepts and ideologies which are
> like poison such as Fascism,Communism, Capitalism, secularism and
> Materialism.These ideologies have ruined humanity and made them inhuman
> robot.
>
> I am not responding to other points. This is no academic and scholary
> response, it is only polemics.
>
> Shah Abdul Hannan
>
>
>
>
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