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Tuesday, July 21, 2009

[mukto-mona] " In fact we have our own conscience"



Many thanks to Akbar Hossain and Sentu Tikadar for their scholarly articles. ......... The only way to get rid of their past sins is to show proper respect to the humanity as a whole and recognize the rights of every individual to live with dignity.

 

Pintu Kanungoe

Professional

 

" In fact we have our own conscience"

 

Conscience is a very relative aspect of our human nature.

Conscience is influenced by many things we see , practice and experience in our lives day to day .

 

Some people are refined people.Logics, analysis and conscience of their own made them refined in their own ways.They are not like us , the common people. They are special people. This word 'special' is also a relative word. As if nothing is fixed. As if nothing is defined permanently.As if the word 'permanent' is also a relative word.

As per Einstein if a mass of a body is multiplied by the square of velocity of light the mass becomes a tremendous source of energy.This is philosophy expressed in a mathematical law.Thus if we can speed up our conscience with a very high velocity to enter the door of future, we may be able to see the future because our minds will become a tremendous source of energy in that state.

 

Some time some practice of some thing in our day to day lives generation by generation becomes habit. Habit creates images in our genes. Shall it be explained partially by Pavlov's action ? A genetic engineer can explain it understandably.Faith also may have a genetic image. Many Hindu Idols were broken by Mohammed Shah Abdally in Islamic period of Indian History and also at present time in Kashmir too. People had not felt any weakness to do it. Some Godly houses like churches and Mosques were also destroyed in recent time. Now what is "Conscience"? How we can find out the real meaning of this word?

 

Some religions are very soft, some one is very hard and in each step there are rules and regulation like some political parties' constitution. If I, or you, or any X, Y, Z do not follow that constitution then any member like, I , You, or any X, Y, Z of that party will be expelled and declared that person is no where in that party.

 

As we have seen practice of any particular ritual (?) becomes habit even that ritual is no where mentioned in scriptures. For example, once I had seen in the Bullygunge lake area of south Kolkata, some beautiful women (seemed to be wealthy) from Marwari community had gathered around a tree with flowers, water pots in their hands. Their aim was to worship that three or that place. I had seen within a while a Kolkata Police chased them and ordered not to do that. The women had gone away. Now is there any chapter in any scriptures of Sanatam Dharma mentioning about worshiping like that what the Marwari women intended to do? The answer is No. Is conscience not blinded here in the above incident ? Freedom is there in the Hinduism. But tens of Hundreds of man made superstitions are there in Hindus. Many reformers came and many superstitions were abolished but until now many superstitions are prevailing. When freedom of any religion is misused in the form of superstition then that religion is also mocked by other Faiths holders. Raja Rammohan Ray had pointed out so many prejudices in Hindus and were mocked by the then upper strata of people who were partially (or fully) responsible for breaking down the Hindu society.

 

There are some religions which had not given any room for personal freedom or had blocked the conscience of the brain either directly or indirectly.

 

Who will dare to abolish the harmful effect of any message of any religion? Again 'harmful' is a relative term. A message may be harmful to X but may be beneficial to Y. Is there any 'politician' who intends to remove any clause or para from his party's constitution removing of which may not be good for his party's solidarity? I think a clever and greedy politician will never do it. Some Path Founder told that greed is the source of all our sufferings. The 'harmful message' is the out come of extreme greed of the 'Almighty'. The Almighty being very ferocious and dangerous in some messages come out from the Almighty's mouth is lethal to others. Had the other people of other Faiths been not considered by the Almighty as human beings? How a Almighty be so intolerant !

 

The same water, same air, same rice, same wheat, same vegetables, same fruits on which we are living have no religion. All these which are so tolerant to us. Let us be tolerant to each other and let us try to understand and help each other , be cooperative to each other ignoring the so called harmful doctrines of Faiths. Let us not divide ourselves on religions. Let us not fight ourselves on religions. Let us prove ourselves that we are civilized. Let us keep solid faith in the need of the present time. Let the truth and love prevail among us on the basis of humanity in this 21st. century. In fact we should give value to our own conscience.

 

Sentu Tikadar

--- On Fri, 7/17/09, pintu_kanungoe <pintu_1989@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: pintu_kanungoe <pintu_1989@hotmail.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: On Akbar Hossein
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:20 AM

 
Many thanks to Akbar Hossain and Sentu Tikadar for their scholarly articles. Keeping full respect to their views I like to state my views on a few issues. Do we really need to defend any religious scripture? When we go through these scriptures we learn about different messages that these scriptures intend to convey. It is not the case that we always blindly accept all these messages to be useful or true. In fact we have our own conscience.So if an individual from a particular religion tries to point out harmful aspects of any message of his or any other's religion what necessitates a person from the religion under criticism to come forward in defence of it? Is he/she sure that all the contents of his/her religious scripture are pure and harmless? Why cannot we take such criticism in a constructive manner to rectify ourselves? Why do we try to conceal the fact that these religious scriptures were written long time ago and threby, contain many messages that have no relevance to the present day reality? As to Hindu religious scriptures I am very much sure that these are simply precious wealth of humanity. The spiritual appeals that they bring to us will continue to comfort the souls of humankind foever. As to social and economic aspects Hindu religious scriptures are understandably no different from the scriptures of other religions. Human society is always in a state of change and therefore, we need continuous modifications in these areas to adapt ourselves with the changes. It is of no use to critise any custom if it is not being practiced now.Hindus need not to be ashamed of caste system and its malpractice in the past. Such system was practiced in every society of the world in one form or another. Slavery was widely practiced in the past under the auspices of Abrahamic religions. What Hindus need to do now is to look into the heart of their religious scriptures and view every individual irrespective of his/her race, religion and culture as divine deity. The only way to get rid of their past sins is to show proper respect to the humanity as a whole and recognize the rights of every individual to live with dignity.

Pintu Kanungoe
Professional

--- In mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com, sentu tikadar <sentu92003@ ...> wrote:
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> Thanks for asking these questions but I am not a pundit on any subject. I profess what I personally believe. Many among us really do not understand what really Dharma is. For the sake of generalization we randomly use the word Dharma as religion. There is no doubt that the literal meaning of Dharma is religion but not in the way we stamp religion as Hinduism, Christianity or Islam etc. In the real Sanskrit terminology dharma means nature and in this discussion we are taking it as spiritual nature. So the basic meaning of Dharma here is ones commitment to virtues. The crude way of believing in a certain faith creates a vicious barrier between faith and freedom of thinking. The problem with Islamic faith starts with its very rigid conditions. If I don't surrender my freedom to certain blind conditions I am not a Muslim. This question of renouncing Islam by a Muslim is a glaring example of Islam's aims to regiment a follower's life. Martin Luther
> revolted against the Roman church and for that disobedience he was excommunicated but the Pope did not ask for his head.
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> Thousands Hindus were converted to Islam and Christianity any Hindu gave a fatwa for their beheading? No. As a matter of fact the original Islam of 7th century had a clear agenda for the pagan Arabs of Mecca. But some overzealous mullahs starting from the Middle Ages have taken over this faith and made it a draconian cult. The aim of a faith is to discipline not to dictate its followers. It's wrong to think that if a person renounces Islam he is renouncing his commitment to virtues. This commitment is a purely personal domain which is not dependent on any specific faith.
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> In the philosophical sense the synthesis of all traditional religions comes to rest in secularism. Islam does not recognize secular views. A Muslim must follow the strict edicts of Islam; therefore secular views are not entertained by Islam. The idea of peace is a great but peace must be based on freedom and forbearance. The predominant notion of an 'infidel" is a repulsive state of the mind which creates hatred.
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> You have told that you are not a Pundit (Pondit). But after reading your write- up it seems that you are no less than a Pondit. You explained things in a very simple understandable way to the common people . Your humbleness is appreciated very much. Your viewpoint regarding Dharma (Dharmo) is the view point of hundreds of thousands people. Dharma means what we 'Hold' to lead our lives in a good way . The quality, the virtue, the good principles are Dharma .
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>  When some person cheats some other person, then the cheated one tells in a sad mood or in a aggressive mood " Tor ei dharmo ?"-means Do you possess this quality with you? So by this simple line we can understand Dharma does not basically means a particular Religion. But actually now-a-days it means religion because each religion tells some ethics and good principles to lead our lives in a better way. The term 'better' way is very relative word. A thief's better way of life is to steal. A pickpocket's better way of life is to pickpocket. A real sage's better way of life is to teach the morality of lives.
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> Hindu Religion or Sanatan Dharma is very difficult to understand. Only the learned people can made us understand. Zend-Avesta ,Tripitak, Bible,Koran is read by at least 60 % people from each of those holders but Vedas, Gita, etc. as such is being read by how much percentage of the holders of these? I can tell Vedas are not gone through by one person in 1000 persons in Hindus. It is very difficult to understand. Gita's inherent meaning is very tough to understand too.
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> It is believed that Vedas came from the mouth of Brahma, the Creator.Some one told he intercoursed Saraswati. A person who is the creator of the universe as per Hindu faith  can be consider a father. In this sense Brahma might be the father of Saraswati. Bal Gangadhar Tilak (one of freedom fighter of the trio Lal-Bal-Pal) had written Sita was Ram's sister. It was his opinion. So in this way Brahma may be the father of Saraswati.
> The Hindu religion is basically  based on democracy. Freedom is so much there that I read many poem regarding the relationship of Sita and Laxmana in pornographic books. Even some one drew the naked picture of Saraswati in a democratic country.
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> Indra, the king of the Heaven (I do not consider there is any heaven in the sky or some where. I possess the same notion regarding heaven and hell like M.M. Dutta of Sagardari of Jessor) was like Bill Clinton. He was so 'sensual'  that he approached to the wife of a hermit in disguise as the hermit and had intercoursed with her. I do not know it is mythology or what.
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> The Vedas were only in the possession of the Brahmins (the learned elite of Veidic age). The four classes of castes were based on professions but later it had become the status of the society. The lowest class, the farmer or  laborer  class was become the untouchable class in our ancient subcontinent. They were not able to enter the temples even being Hindu. They were being prevented to enter the temple premises by the Brahmins. They were not allowed to learn Sanskrit because they were untouchable or impure. The road they used to walk had become impure. Not much long time ago, even the composer and chief editor of Indian Constitution Bhim Rao Ambedkar was not allowed to mingle with upper strata students in his pathsala (elementary school).The school teacher was very kind to him because of his intelligence and Ambedkar was allowed to sit far away from other students at the rear side in the school.
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> If an untouchable would enter the kitchen, the kitchen would become impure but the same untouchable when would collect and bring the fire woods to be used for cooking in a Brahmin family, the cooked food would not become impure.
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> In the Mughal period the much conversion of Hindus to Muslim took place. Specially it was at threshold in the period of Aurangjeb.
> The reasons of the conversion were many. Equality in Muslim-ism might  be one of the solid reasons to accept Islam in a caste based Hindu society.
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> But I think we need 'Dharma'. The Dharma  for the service of mankind. The service of the needy mankind is the biggest service to satisfy God, the only one God of all mankind . The God of humanity and love.
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> In every Dharma more or less there are some 'Adhrma' (antonym of Dharma).The Adhrma is just like Virus. We should not keep faith in those harmful virus- the virus of faith. We have much more responsibility to be united to iradicate terrorism from any sect of Faiths , to iradicate poverty, to iradicate illiteracy , to educate our women on science,  to feed our malnutrition- suffering children and women. Can the Adhrma be abandoned by us and can we try to build up a new horizon of  solidarity where there will be no touch of caste discrepancy, religious fundamentalism. Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhists, Sikhs all will love and respect  to each other  from the fathom of the hearts. If we are bold and strong enough in our minds to love each other  then our many problem will be solved easily.
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