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Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor of 3 million



I stand on my ground ' ignorance is a bliss of solitude '

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From: "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:14:59 -0000
To: <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor of 3 million

Dear Mr. Ejazur

They say that some are born great, some are made great and some have greatness thrust upon them. By your mail anybody can assume that you are a born great.  Come on stop this crap. Put your feet on the ground. I don't know you are a "real Bengali" or not, though you always portray yourself to be above a "real Bengali". Not this time only, in the past also you have been very sarcastic about Bengalis. One may wonder how you get so much time to write on every subject in this forum. So you live in Kuwait. Some of your posting suggest you work with KPC as you were writing from KPC server. Mr. Great you are using KPC server and KPC time to write in this forum. And you are preaching honesty. Typical, is not it? Not a "real Bengali" type.

Official Bangladesh stand is 3 million died during its war of liberation. You questioned it and suggest it was 300,000. How you know it was 300,000? Your lords in Pakistan say it was only around 30,000. And on what context you brought in the issue of how many died in Bangladesh War of Liberation? If I recollect, it was not an issue. Issue was how many votes were casted during 2008 election.

And I suggest you to write less but write with sense. Work for your employer during working hours. He is paying you for that. And leave some job for the future historian. Let him also work on something.  We the "real Bengalis" have enough problems to tackle and have enough issues to talk. For God sake don't make settled issues (at the least as it looks like now) another controversy.

With lot of regards

 

Junaid


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
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> I'll have to talk in your language.
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> If my mother and sister were raped I would talk about my mother and sister and any other victim I knew of. If your mother and sister were raped you would not even acknowledge it (after all real Bengali na?) - unless of course you had the melodrama and smokescreen of saying all the women in the entire village were raped!
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> The average Deshi male turns his back on justice for, and acknowedgement of, rape victims within his own family even today - let alone back then. So don't get all high and mighty with your political use of the word rape.
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> While better people than me are busy with poverty alleviation and the role of religion and the price of fertiliser in Dinajpur I am here to deal with political exploitation by people like you.
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> Stand your ground. Or skip away - its not like you ever had much to say anyway.
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> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, ratri@ wrote:
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> > I guess ignorance is a bliss of solitude for you ! You wouldn't dare to comment like that if your mother or sister was raped , or a family member was brutally killed , then again I am wasting my time to dumb narrow minded jack ass !
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@
> > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:45:02
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor of 3 million
> >
> > Dear Alochok Farida
> >
> > A million deaths here or there is irrelevant only in a cosmic sense.
> >
> > Down in the gutter of our politics, how many died in 1971 is the single
> > most important question that should be answered by Bangladesh.
> >
> > We pay the price for thinking that the real number does not matter -
> > because, as a result, now NOTHING matters.
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> > The sanctity we afford the number 3 million has sanctified our bold
> > stupidity.
> >
> > The institutionalisation of the number 3 million has institutionalised
> > our crass mediocrity.
> >
> > That number props up our egos, our insecurities and our delusions.
> >
> > That number cheapens the value of life and lightens the loss of life.
> >
> > We cannot even begin to describe how negatively that number has shaped
> > our politics and our conscience.
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> > There are dirty reasons why we don't talk about it. And none of the
> > reasons are in the context of the cosmos.
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> > These reasons are the very same reasons for our condition. I can't write
> > about them because I don't think the English language can accommodate
> > the scale of political depravity in Bangladesh.
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
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> > Kuwait
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> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@> wrote:
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> > >
> > > I try to avoid getting into the '3 million killed' argument. It is a
> > pointless argument, as if a million subtracted here or added there makes
> > a whole lot of difference. Below is a snippet excerpt from something I
> > wrote on Genocide of 1971 two years ago.
> > >
> > > . . . . . . . .
> > >
> > > He quotes R. J. Rummel again: "It wa s Yahya Khan, then President
> > of Pakistan", who said regarding his ill-conceived miliitary crackdown
> > on East Pakistan in March, 1971: "Kill three million of them and the
> > rest will eat out of our hands" (p315).
> > >
> > > The intended number to be killed mentioned in the statement of Yahya
> > is not nearly as important as the explicit aim for mass killing that is
> > expressed in the bombast there. And the aim of this mass killing was to
> > make "them" eat out of "our" hands.
> > >
> > > ------------
> > > But that was Pakistani military's neo-colonial aim. I distinguish
> > between that aim and the one that was in the blackened hearts of the
> > Bengali Razakars as they conducted the mass murders of fellow-countrymen
> > in 1971. Those Razakars (and their newer versions) with the same
> > murederous desires in their hearts are still among us. We keep knocking
> > over them even in this forum.
> > >
> > > Farida Majid
> > >
> > >
> > >_________________________________________________________________
> > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.
> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
> > >
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