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Saturday, January 28, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} watch



More knowledge about Islam? With so many Islamic universities around, I can easily conclude that the 'knowledge' about Islam has not gone beyond 7th century level despite many people being engaged with it everyday. You as an expert in the subject should enlighten us what we have been missing from this 'Dehli-ka laddoo'? What more mysteries need to be revealed so that we humans get the full religious pictures of the heaven?    


On Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:38 PM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:


It is not a good practice to assume that others possess the same amount of your knowledge AND/OR your ignorance.
mukto-mona regulars like Jiten Roy, Sukhamaoy, Shah Deeldar, etc assume that they know more than others.  They know everything there is know under the earth about Religion, and especially Islam. 

This video is publicized by an organization for the specific purpose of slandering Islam, not for any benevolent Social Work purpose of preventing domestic violence.  It is not out of his habitual ignorance that Jiten Roy begins lecturing me on not doing anything about " mistreatments of Muslim women"  ( oh! how sadened Jiten is about the plight of Muslim women! ! !), the video has succeeded in instilling the brain-wash that the man is Muslim -- and ALL Muslims everywhere in the world, from time immemorial has obscenely beaten their wives.  [Note:  the fierce anti-Islamic replies on facebook]

Ian Baker
 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:02 PM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} watch
 
 
There is nothing to be defensive about this video. A Muslim man beating his wife in public. It would be an offense in any civil society but in many Muslim dominated countries, people might look the other way and give the man free pass. The man would not be prosecuted by a civil court or Sharia court. Do other people beat and kill their wives? Yes, they do! Would we call it a Christian or Hindu phobia? Probably not! So, Farida equating this as Islamophobia is simply wrong. Farida should rather focus on remedies that prevent these kinds violence against women. Mr. Guha is merely a messenger.  


On Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:23 PM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I think at least on face value this video is unfair to Islam. A man is beating a woman, presumably his wife. He is not saying or implying that he is doing it as per Islam. So, calling this video something like 'our eye on Islam' is wrong.

However, if the Koran or the Hadits contain edicts of beating wife, honorable people should trash those edicts, if not Islam as a whole. So, I think instead of assuming that a man beat a woman because of Islam, people should cite verses from Islamic books to back up their 'our eye on Islam' kind of mottos. If criticizing unjust and hateful edicts of Islam makes one an Islamophobe, he/she should be proud of being so.

SuBain  

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On Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:01 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Farida Majid:"If this isn't Islamophobia I don't know what is! ! ! !"

I viewed some of those clips, and found that these are about  women's right/mistreatment in Saudi Arabia, and in some other Muslim countries.
Being a woman, you should have publicized such unjust treatments of Women by yourself. Instead, you are accusing the person, who has circulated video clips about mistreatments of Muslim women, as Islamophobe. And, by doing so, you are also saying that these videos are as per Islamic traditions, so, circulation of such video clips is equivalent to spreading phobia about Islam.
So, let me ask you, are such mistreatments of women part of Islam? If it is, I will admit that circulation of such videos could be considered as spreading Islamophobia.
I, know, Islamophobia is a favorite term in your vocabulary, but, I really think, you may not understand the meaning of this term. Sorry to say that!
Jiten Roy



From: "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:15 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} watch

 

If this isn't Islamophobia I don't know what is! ! ! !  What is the reason for it to be posted here in mukto-mona by Sitangshu? Of what benefit is this to  the Bangladeshi society - - - to mankind ?
 There are other such videos  generated by Zionist organizations circulated by Sitangshu .
Read the comments -- if you are in any doubt about the real nature of this ugly propaganda . . .


From: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:24 AM
To: pfc; mokto mona; Khobor
Subject: {PFC-Friends} watch
 
https://www.facebook.com/OurEyeOnIslam/videos/1808495489416366/
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