Not so quick Mr.Jamil. Do not claim Bangladesh for Muslims when we
all know this country was freed from Islamic Republic of Pakistan, country
which dominated us for 24 years in the name of Islam. We know how it looked
under so called Islamic republic. NO, no more ruling us in the name of religion.
Our country was freed from the shackle of religion flowing blood from
Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and Christen alike. This country belongs to
It's people not to any religion. Blood will spell again if needed to
resist any conspiracy by Islamist to take us back to 1947, this is
what I say as a Muslim. Ashraful Mokhlukat is what Allah called us
long before we are Muslim, Hindu, Christen or Buddhist.
Do not divide this nation inline of religion. If you still want to
live in an Islamic country then you better do hijrat to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan
the so called Islamic country though both countries still lives under Aiama Jahaliat.
Thanks
Shamim Chowdhury
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--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Jamil Ahmed <jamil_dhaka@...> wrote:
>
> This is our country.
> We should not get into unnecessary allegation that
> will not bring any good to Bangladesh.
> Lot of people are upset about not being in power for
> various reasons. That's not the question now.
> We have to be united as bangladeshi, nor as AL
> supporter or BNP supporter. We have to come out of
> "Raj Tantra" concept, I am sure there are honest hard
> working people in Bangladesh who are ready to
> sacrifice and lead the nation.
>
> If we are not united, someone will come to create more
> division between brothers.
>
> And lastly what's wrong with Islamic party when
> majority of people in the country is muslim. This is
> like blaming all muslims for bad deed of few twin
> tower bomber.
>
>
> Jamil Ahmed
>
> --- Dalia Satter dalia_satter@... wrote:
>
> > Dear Alochoks,
> >
> > I thank Ms. Farida Majid for her endeavor to detect
> > the lies that
> > hide the truth. However, I am unable to understand
> > her reasoning
> > methodology and it seems to me that she also tried
> > to hide the truth
> > in the name of detecting it.
> >
> > Apparently, she was trying to detect lies in a
> > posting of Shah Abdul
> > Hannan, a former top bureaucrat of the government
> > and a former
> > Chairman of the biggest private sector bank in
> > Bangladesh,
> > containing remarks regarding the recent statements
> > of Amnesty
> > International Secretary General on trying the war
> > criminals and
> > demand of a quarter for banning Islamic politics.
> > He also made
> > remarks on the 1972 constitution.
> >
> > Now, let us see her way of detecting the lies and
> > disproving the
> > remarks of Shah Abdul Hannan.
> >
> > She wrote, "We know that he is the Islami Bank brain
> > behind the
> > arrangement of funds from mysterious Middle Eastern
> > sources that
> > have gone into financing the Islamist terror groups
> > in Bangladesh
> > involved in unspeakable blood-spilling and murderous
> > activities for
> > the past decade."
> >
> > She also wrote, "A gun runner who exploits his high
> > position in the
> > Govt. and banking
> > skills to organize clandestine financing from abroad
> > to arm the
> > Islamist groups to terrorize the innocent citizens
> > of Bangladesh is
> > complaining about Amnesty International showing an
> > interest in the
> > trial of the War Crimes of 1971 Genocide of
> > Bangladesh!"
> >
> > If, for the sake of argument, we accept all the
> > allegations she made
> > against Shah Abdul Hannan, then how does it prove
> > that the remarks
> > of Shah Abdul Hannan are untrue? What type of
> > reasoning is this?
> > Please forgive me if I fail to comprehend her
> > American English or
> > reasoning methodology properly (I did not have the
> > privilege to
> > enter an American school in a Mafia town like her).
> > I will be
> > grateful if she explains it (please be specific and
> > to the point,
> > and avoid usual rhetoric).
> >
> > Now come to a more interesting point. She adopted a
> > peculiar
> > reasoning methodology - proving someone as liar by
> > making white lies
> > herself against him. The lies she made are:
> >
> > 1. Islami Bank is involved in arranging funds from
> > mysterious
> > Middle Eastern sources
> >
> > 2. That fund went to finance the terrorist groups
> > Bangladesh
> > involved in unspeakable blood-spilling and murderous
> > activities for
> > the past decade.
> >
> > 3. Shah Abdul Hannan is a gun runner (meaning a arm
> > dealer,
> > thanks to FM for teaching us the word)
> >
> > She did not mention any source of her information.
> > I have been in
> > the country for last one decade and am unaware that
> > Mr. Hannan was
> > convicted by any court of law or even any case was
> > lodged against
> > him on those allegations. No newspaper even
> > reported anything like
> > this. He served the government in a top position of
> > bureaucracy
> > under the regime of Sheikh Hasina. The bank she
> > mentioned is the
> > largest private sector bank in Bangladesh. It is a
> > public limited
> > company. Its income, expenditure, funds, assets are
> > audited by
> > qualified accounting firms and disclosed regularly
> > for the public.
> > How can such an organisation collect mysterious
> > funds? If, for the
> > sake of argument, we accept that the bank is
> > involved in such
> > activities why the last five governments (including
> > the present
> > western backed one) has not taken any action against
> > it? Why has
> > not any case been lodged against the bank?
> >
> > What type of shameless lies these are? I do not
> > know the
> > appropriate word to describe it and am requesting
> > Ms. Farida Majid
> > to teach me a word which can adequately depict her
> > style of blatant
> > lies. How ethical is it to make this type of
> > baseless allegation
> > against a respectable and senior citizen of the
> > country? Ms. Faird
> > Majid mentioned about her American schooling and
> > background. I had
> > an impression that a civilized society teaches its
> > members to be
> > truthful and respectful to others. I am sorry to
> > mention that her
> > postings are demonstrating the opposite.
> >
> > We are living in a society where different people
> > might have
> > different religious, political and ideological
> > beliefs, stands and
> > opinions. If someone does not like an ideology she
> > should put
> > forward her views and arguments using evidence and
> > reasoning, not
> > with shameless lies. Lies and disrespect will not
> > help bring
> > anything good for the nation.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Dalia Satter
> >
> >
> >
> >
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