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Saturday, January 5, 2008

[vinnomot] Mr. S Turkman - rising of a new Goebbels?

fazlul bari <fazlulbari2007@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Mr. S Turkman - rising of a new Goebbels?

I am also agree with Mr Syed Mirza's comment, thanks Syed
 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan <srbanunz@gmail.com>
 
Yes, Mr. Syed Mirza your observation & remark is 99 % correct. Thanks for your brave comment too.
 
Better to ignore & avoid those guys, which I generally do. Because, it is their inborn habit
 
 
 
"Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"

Shuvechhante,

Shafiqur Rahman Bhuiyan (ANU)
NEW ZEALAND.

Phone: 00-64-9-828 2435 (Res), 00-64-274  500 277 (mobile)
E-mail: srbanunz@gmail. com

 
On 1/4/08, Syed Mirza <mirza.syed@gmail. com> wrote:
Huum!  I can see some people in this thread are attacking other people (like S. Turkman) personally. This is problem, real problem indeed. This is the attempt to gag somebody and this is anti-democracy and anti-freedom of speech. Just by bringing some statistics of negative things from any Muslim nations or speaking about any vices of Muslim nations not necessarily makes somebody "anti-Islamic" or "anti-muslims". Healthy criticisms helps correct our faults or mistakes. And criticisms should be allowed as long as it is not directed to any person. Almost all muslim nations having tremendous problem in multifarious fronts. Criticisms is the real tonic to correct it, I believe.
 
Syed Mirza
 
On 1/1/08, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net > wrote:
All this for writing that Moslims, Indian and some others in Poor Countries of the world are using Ultra Sound Machines and aborting their daughters?
 
Okay sir, if your 'new' Islam permits you to keep aborting Female Fetuses to kill your future daughters like Savages of 7th Century, who Islam had prohibited to do that, its okay with me. Go ahead and kill your next daughter also but you can't stop me from declaring a Savage and a Non Moslim then.  
 
Since you have money, your son or sons wouldn't have no problem finding a Moslim Wife but I'm worried about ordinary poor Moslims of the world, tens of millions of whom would live all their lives without ever getting married. Can you my lord give me a right to protest on their behalf in this Internet Democrary that is owned by USA on my Tax Dollars that I paid to become a practicality as a US Citizen?
May I inform you that USA owns Internet and if you people keep banning voices of reason of your own people, I would be one of the Americans, who can vote to ban all Moslim Internet Forums, who ban logic and reason on Internet?
Please learn, who you are before going against people like me ...!
You were nobody until West let you become one because of principals of Freedom of Speech and Democracy. You were Slaves of the West, remember ...?
Now you want to enslave the West for being nice enough to you?
You must be out of your mind, sir.

Mizanur Bhuiyan <bhuiyanmr@hotmail. com > wrote:
Dear Gentleman,
Beginning of your statement you tried very hard to prove that you are not one of the from anti-Muslim group. I could accept your statement but at the end you have proven yourself very negligence to the religion as well an extreme person against Muslim religion with the sentence from you "  who keep spreading lies against me since lying is part of your Islam" also saying your "Islam", seems you hate Islam. I am not sure what is your real identity, either you were born in a Muslim family or in a non-Muslim family. But it is true that your attitude is towards agonist religion. You should not blame on anyone if they say you are an extremist againist religion. I believe, you should apologize for your extreme negligence words against religion. According to you, I am not that one from those Mollas who spreads lies and jerms in our modern society and polluting our national advancement. But I have respect on every religion, every society and above all to the all human being. Please keep your ideology into yourself, never try to be a blind philosopher. Hope never see you in such mentality in future. Learn how to respect every single creation in the world as an equal right and respect. God bless you and all others to help keep peace in the world. Thanks again.
Mizanur Bhuiyan

Virginia, USA
From: turkman@sbcglobal. net


I have no affiliations with any Zionists and I have never been a member of a Communist or Socialist Party of the world all my life. I have never read any Zionist Propaganda Manuals and didn't even know, they existed.
 
I'm against wrongs and injustice in this world. I was against attack on Saddam. I have written in favor of withdrawl of US Forces from Iraq. I have called Bush a Moron many times on Internet. I have accused him of listening to propaganda of Israel Lobby too much. I have written against American Capitalists on forums of Americans and do not embrace their ideology. I have written in favor of poor countries of the world and against IMF's System.
 
Since you are a Mollaa and right for rights of Moslim Women, who all Mollaas want to keep mistreating, using them like Sex Object and House Slave, you have declared me a Zionist Anti Moslim and Anti Islam.
 
I criticize, illiterate, backwards, Anti-education, Anti Science, Edict Mongering Mollaa's Islam and think, Islam needs a reform but all that is I guess, is a Sin in your Islam. You have joined all other Mollaas on Internet, who keep spreading lies against me since lying is part of your Islam.
 
I used to be member of over 40 Internet Forums of Moslims. You Mollaas have successfully gotten me kicked out of almost all those forums but few. You follow me every new forum I join and start my Character Assassination just like this with a new name on every forum in your love of Satan. Do you know, one day you will have to die and face Almighty?

Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Trukman et el;

Oh, yeah, you nixed facts with fiction which you
carefully choreographed for general consumption, thats
the danger of your vetting discord. Unfortunately,
most of your writings are from Zionist propaganda
manuals; I have seen them already!

At age 60+ and 2 Phds, you probably has not much to do
at the tail end of your life; except reading those
text books and spewing venomous lies like Joseph
Goebbels!

Constructive criticism is the mainstay of faith & I
have no complain anyone criticizing Muslims; surely
none of us are perfect! Some rare instances, I agree
with your stance. But, your agenda for chronic
'hate-Muslim' propaganda is the issue here!

After the collapse of socialism, the ex-communists
like Trukman & Biplab et el. turned their arrow
against Muslims, dinning with America.

Finding a new enemy is definitely invigorating, and
they found a new villain - 'Muslims' as a punch bag.

It's amazing how these so-called left-leaning
intellectuals embrace the capitalistic ideology which
they dearly despised for decades; these are
intellectual prostitutes!

Hallelujah!

--- S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net> wrote:

> What it has to do with facts I wrote?
> Do the Facts become Fiction if they are coming
> from someone you hate?
> Could you tell me, who has put down such info
> about me there?
> I don't criticize only Moslims on killing their
> daughters. If you read, I have pointed out that
> Indians, Chinese and others are doing it to.
> Has killing our daughter now become legal in Islam
> because you have found something against me on
> Google?
> Is telling the Sin some Moslims are committing, a
> Sin in itself according to Qoraan?
>
> Enayet Ullah < enayet_2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:>
>
> I just googled "turkman@sbcglobal. net", and you will
> be amazed about the search result about Trukman. He
> is
> a prolific harlot gusting about Muslims, most of his
> writing clips are from Zionist text book.
>
> --- S Turkman < turkman@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for letting me know. Why don't you look
> at
> > Male Female
> > Ratio in Moslim Countries going to Websites?
> > Are there more Females in Bangladesh than Males or
> > other way
> > around against nature?
> >
> > I didn't say there's such a UNO site but you can
> > go to UNO site
> > and find out Male and Female Ratio of all
> > countries and terrirtories
> > of the world.
> > Natural Ratio of Female Births to 100 birth Males
> > is 105 Female
> > Births but since Women live longer in some
> > countries its as high
> > as 118 to 100 men. Now look at that UNO Ratio List
> > and tell me,
> > Why more than 3/4th of Moslim Countries have 100
> > or below Females in
> > their population compared to 100 Males?
> > In all advanced countries of the world, where
> > there's no Honor
> > Killings going on and people don't care if they
> > had no or lesser
> > daughters Female Population is at least 105 to 100
> > Males.
> > Why there are no such Moslim Countries?
> >
> > Did you ever talk with any Gynacologist with an
> > Ultra Sound
> > Machine before starting this Personal Attack on
> > me?
> > Its going on in India and many other poor
> > countries also we
> > are not the only Savages killing our daughters,
> > sisters and
> >! ; mother s. In China, they just kill their daughters

> > because only
> > one baby is allowed to have by their Communist
> > Govt.
> > This world is short of tens of millions of females
> > right now and
> > we are in crisis of not finding wives for out male
> > children. In
> > China, once youngmen had even rioted on this
> > issue.
> > 

> > Mr. S Turkman
> >
>
> > Can you substantiate your statement: "Moslims do
> > not kill their children. They only kill the
> > fetus by aborting their daughters, when they find
> > out their wives are pregnant with
> > one, with the help of Ultra Sound Machine. So many
> > daughters have been aborted and alive females
> > killed by us that females in Moslim World are
> short
> > by about 30 million according UNO's Statistics."
> by
> > documentary evidences?
> >
> > Please name the UN document that provide
> > statistics on fetus abortion in the Moslem world.
> > Female fetus abortion is practically non-existent
> in
> > the Moslem countries. In general, the ultrasonic
> > imaging technology is practically beyond the of
> > reach for the poor and backward Moslems of the
> third
> > world countries.
> >
> > India and China has been focused by UN as prime
> > venues for female fetus abortion and there by
> > causing sex-ratio imbalance. In India, the female
> > fetus abortion rate is twice as high among
> educated
> > mothers compared with those who are illiterate.
> >
> >
> > "Sex-ratio Imbalance in Asia: Trends,
> > Consequences, and Policy Responses" .
> >
> >
> > Imbalance! d Sex Ra tio at Birth and Comprehensive

> > Intervention in China
> > Shuzhuo Li
> > Institute for Population and Development Studies
> > School of Public Policy and Administration
> > Xi'an Jiaotong University
> >
> > Download Executive Summary
> > Download full report (PDF)
> >
> > Characteristics of Sex-Ratio Imbalances in India
> > and Future Scenarios
> > Christophe Z. Guilmoto
> > LPED/IRD, Paris
> >
> > Download Executive Summary
> >
> > Exposing social backwardness and extreemism is
> > rational thinking, but lying for
> > the sake of villifying your adversaries is
> > unethical, cowardly and totally unacceptable.
> >
> > Mr. Asghar,
> >
> > sarcasm is the sneering,or mocking of a person,
> > or situation or thing or an ideology. That sly and
> > jesting way of rediculing the backward section of
> > mankind is not the way of a rational thinker .....
> >
> > Syed Aslam
> >
> > PS: Read the following:
> >
> > INDIA 10 million female fetuses aborted in 20
> > years - Asia News Indian doctors warn,
> > however, that there is evidence of widespread
> > abortion of the female fetus in the country. Dr
> > Shanta Durge, founder of the Save the ...
> > www.asianews. it/index. php?l=en&art=5068 - 22k -
> > Cached - Similar pages
> >
> > Study On Abortion Of Female Fetuses In India
> > Receives Mixed ... Study On Abortion Of
> > Female Fetuses In India Receives Mixed Reaction
> From
> > Indian ... child was a determining factor in
> > deciding to abort a female fetus. ...
> > www.medicalnewstoda y.com/articles/ 36100.php - 45k
> -
> > Cached - Simi! lar page s

> > Gendercide Watch: Female Infanticide The
> > Chinese government has taken some energetic steps
> to
> > combat the practice of female infanticide and
> > sex-selective abortion of female fetuses. ...
> > www.gendercide. org/case_ infanticide. html - 38k -
> > Cached - Similar pages
> >
> > On 12/28/07, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net >
> > wrote: No Mr. Asghar,
> > Moslims do not kill their children. They only kill
> > the fetus by aborting their daughters, when they
> > find out their wives are pregnant with one, with
> the
> > help of Ultra Sound Machine. So many daughters
> have
> > been aborted and alive females killed by us that
> > females in Moslim World are short by about 30
> > million according UNO's Statistics.
> >
> > Unless 30 million Moslim Young men marry Non
> > Moslim Girls they would remain un-married rest of
> > their lives now.
> > msa40@aol. com wrote:
> >
> > Due cto Allah's mercy and compassion, the original
> > author himself and all of us are alive, breathing,
> > and in good health. It is sad to see how people
> > deviate from Islam due to their own arrogance and
> > ignorance.]
> > True, due to Allah's mercy, Muslims are being
> > beaten into pulp by the Americans and their
> weapons.
> > True, due to Allah's mercy, most Muslims depend on
>
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