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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

[ALOCHONA] Re: Will of the Ulema rules-- a public hoodwink on Women's Reserved Seats

Fortunately, almost no one will agree with you.

I wish Bangladesh didn't have idiots as politicians then I would take
you on with some of the comments you have made here. As the saying
goes, there are bigger fish to fry.

Rest assured there are many more women in the world than you think
who are actually more intelligent and productive than you are. The
victimisation of Bangladesh by Hasina and Khaleda is more the
responsibility of their stupid and rabid male supporters than our
female population.

You should be careful how you speak - how you say what you say is
just as important as what you are saying. Otherwise the message is
obliterated by the messenger himself.

There's an ancient saying that the devil does his best to keep men
and women opposed to each other because evil could never defeat men
and women if they were truly united.

There are a thousand women in Bangladesh who would be better PMs than
both Hasina and Khaleda and the stupid old men in the Central
Committees.

Regards

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mufassil islam <mufassili@...> wrote:
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many enlightened women folks yet. Whatever so called women
politicians or leaders we have - almost all are fanatically
feminists. Two leaders in the parliament - women - look what a mess
they created. It is nothing to do with gender - yet we have to wait
for improving the long neglected other sex. I don't know whether you
all will agree with me - it is my personal view - not supported by
Quran or any other dogma - but through histiry it has been proved -
Men are more intelligent and wiser. We have been idiots as well and
most corrupt as well - and most evil as well. But it is Men - who
changed the world. I don't understand who can support logically the
view that men and women are equal. How? Produce your evidence.
Results in GCSC? Laugh - the system is erred. What about Chess
playing ranks? Sports? Science? Moral philosophies? If these were the
results of domantion by women since eternity - then why women failed
to find a way to dominate men? We are not being dominated by tigers.
Are we? The truth is - the feminists want female domination. Ask the
men of the west how they suffer for irrational family laws where
fathers are aliens and men are being abused with the fear of making
them lose their children. What I believe and I am straight forward
about it - men and women are equal in their humanity and in the
senses of souls but - physically - and brainwise - Men are superior -
far superior. If men wanted and if men were not rationally equipped -
women would have still ben in sackles as breeding species and that
would have affected men as well. I don't know how many of you read
Engles Origin of Family thourgh Marxist view - but I don't find the
logic in deeming that monogamous marriages are signs of male
domination. What is the other choice? Let women have hundreds of male
partners? Who would suffer more? Sorry but women lack all superior
psychological and philosophical senses. No wonder we have not yet
seen a single woman philosopher in world history or leadeing facts.
So if anyone want their rights - seats in the parliament - let them
achieve it.
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1:27 PM To: Afrozanari Shibly Subject: [ALOCHONA] Will of the Ulema
rules-- a public hoodwink on Women's Reserved Seats
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> Women's Reserved Seats in Local Govt
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> Govt retreats from pledge
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> Shakhawat Liton
> In a surprise move the caretaker government has retreated from its
earlier pledge of reserving 40 percent seats for women at all tiers
of the local government system for three consecutive terms. It is
widely believed that the government has buckled in the wake of
violent protests by hardliner Islamist groups against the National
Women's Development Policy 2008. The pledge however was made to
effectively empower women at all levels of the local government
system. On March 23, the council of advisers approved in principle
two ordinances regarding formations and functions of city
corporations and municipalities with the provision for reserving 40
percent seats exclusively for women. The government also had a plan
to incorporate the same provision in other upcoming laws regarding
formations and functions of union, upazila and zila parishads, the
sources added. But an Ulema Committee formed by the government to
revi! ew the women's development policy, on April 17 in its
recommendations to the government, strongly opposed the policy and
asked the government to scrap the provision for increasing the number
of reserved seats for women in the local government system,
representatives to which would be elected through direct elections
according to the earlier proposal. Following the recommendations of
the ulemas, the council of advisers at a special meeting on April 24
finalised the two ordinances regarding city corporations and
municipalities scrapping the provision for reserving 40 percent seats
for women. The finalised ordinances however propose to continue the
current provision for reserving one-third seats for women in city
corporations and municipalities, which is expected to be promulgated
as a law by the president soon, handing over a whopping victory to
the Islamist hardliners in the country.According to the existing
provision, Dhaka City Corporation (DCC) has! 90 wards headed by as
many commissioners. In addition, there are prov isions for 30 women
commissioners. Each woman commissioner is in charge of three wards.
So in reality each ward has two commissioners -- one generally
elected commissioner and the other a woman commissioner who is also
elected by voters of three wards. This system leads to conflicts in
sharing responsibilities as generally elected commissioners are often
found to be non-cooperating with the specially elected women
commissioners. Similar power sharing systems exist for other city
corporations, municipalities and union parishads. But the proposed
law suggested 40 percent of the total 90 wards of DCC be reserved for
women. So, there would be no dual commissionership in any ward. Such
reserved seats for women were supposed to be in place for three terms
totalling in 15 years. After that the government was to make a fresh
decision on whether the reserved women's seats would exist or not.
Defending the government's back flip, LGRD Adviser Anwarul Iqbal on
April 27 ! claimed to the media that the provision for reserving 40
percent seats for women had to be scrapped, since it would come into
conflict with a court verdict. A government formed expert committee
on strengthening local government institutions led by incumbent
Health Adviser MM Shawkat Ali, which came up with the original
proposal, however did so after reviewing the High Court verdict. The
committee found nothing wrong in reserving 40 percent seats for women
for the next 15 years, instead it argued that the constitution does
not discourage making special provisions for women's
development.Referring to the High Court judgement on a writ filed by
some women ward commissioners elected to reserved seats in Khulna
City Corporation, the LGRD adviser said the provision for reserving
seats for women should not be a permanent system. The petitioners
filed the writ to avoid being marginalised in the name of being
assigned with 'special duties'.In ! fact according to the High
Court's verdict, representatives elected to reserved seats for women
cannot be officially assigned with 'special duties' in local
governments and they must be treated as equals to other elected
representatives. The High Court verdict actually said nothing about
the percentage of seats to be reserved for women.DRFAT LAW FOR ZILA,
UPAZILA & UNION PARISHADS Meanwhile, in line with the government's
latest reversal of decisions, the LGRD ministry already drafted a law
regarding formations, elections and functions of union, upazila and
zila parishads without keeping the provision for reserving 40 percent
seats for women, who would be elected through direct votes, sources
in the ministry said. The draft ordinance proposes to continue the
current provision for reserving three seats for women in each union
parishad, having jurisdiction over nine general wards, a source said.
Meaning, each elected woman to reserved seats in a union parishad
will have to share her authority with th! ree other elected members,
running the risk of being marginalised.At upazila and zila parishad
levels, instead of reserving 40 percent seats for women, the new
draft law proposes to keep one-third of total posts reserved for
women, who will be elected through indirect votes. Women, who are
already elected to reserved seats at lower tiers of the local
government system will only be able to contest in elections to
upazila and zila parishads, and an electoral college of already
elected women to reserved seats at lower tiers will elect from among
themselves the representatives to reserved seats for women in upazila
and zila parishads, says the draft law. The LGRD ministry draft
however proposes to create a post of a vice-chairman in each upazila
and zila parishads, which will be reserved for women elected through
direct votes. Currently there are around 14,500 women representatives
elected to reserved seats in over 4,000 union parishads, 6 city c!
orporations, and the municipalities.
> One of several CNG filling stations between Kanchpur Bridge and
Jatrabari of the capital which BNP big shots built on the Kutubkhali
canal, drastically reducing Dhaka's drainage capability. PHOTO: STAR -
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