RE: [ALOCHONA] Will of the Ulema rules-- a public hoodwink on Women's Reserved Seats

You are not serious with your archaic views, right Mufassil? If you are, you just opened a new can of worms. Also, if you’re married, I feel sorry for the other person.

 

I was shocked at your shamelessly written paragraphs. You need a good whack on the side of your head buddy! Has anyone seen Moonstruck? “Snap out of it!” would be the response right about now as Loretta slaps Ronny on the face. Excellent movie! Go rent today!

 

I personally don’t see you’re worth my time. But, I don’t know about others. With that in mind, take my advice - put on your helmet and brace yourself in the trenches. In the meantime, I’m blocking this subject line as I don’t care to read about your tasteless views any longer.

 

Shah Haq

Chicago

 

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From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mufassil islam
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:11 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Will of the Ulema rules-- a public hoodwink on Women's Reserved Seats

 

It is true that our women are neglected but we also do not have yet many enlightened women folks yet. Whatever so called women politicians or leaders we have - almost all are fanatically feminists. Two leaders in the parliament - women - look what a mess they created. It is nothing to do with gender - yet we have to wait for improving the long neglected other sex. I don't know whether you all will agree with me - it is my personal view - not supported by Quran or any other dogma - but through histiry it has been proved - Men are more intelligent and wiser. We have been idiots as well and most corrupt as well - and most evil as well. But it is Men - who changed the world. I don't understand who can support logically the view that men and women are equal. How? Produce your evidence. Results in GCSC? Laugh - the system is erred. What about Chess playing ranks? Sports? Science? Moral philosophies? If these were the results of domantion by women since eternity - then why women fa! iled to find a way to dominate men? We are not being dominated by tigers. Are we? The truth is - the feminists want female domination. Ask the men of the west how they suffer for irrational family laws where fathers are aliens and men are being abused with the fear of making them lose their children. What I believe and I am straight forward about it - men and women are equal in their humanity and in the senses of souls but - physically - and brainwise - Men are superior - far superior. If men wanted and if men were not rationally equipped - women would have still ben in sackles as breeding species and that would have affected men as well. I don't know how many of you read Engles Origin of Family thourgh Marxist view - but I don't find the logic in deeming that monogamous marriages are signs of male domination. What is the other choice? Let women have hundreds of male partners? Who would suffer more? Sorry but women lack all superior psychological and philosophical senses. N! o wonder we have not yet seen a single woman philosopher in world hist ory or leadeing facts. So if anyone want their rights - seats in the parliament - let them achieve it.
 
Mufassil Islam

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To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: rkhundkar@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:38:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Will of the Ulema rules-- a public hoodwink on Women's Reserved Seats

Somehow I was not surprised. All too predictable!
Robin Khundkar

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From: Farida Majid
Sent: May 11, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Afrozanari Shibly
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Will of the Ulema rules-- a public hoodwink on Women's Reserved Seats

Print Friendly Version Front Page The Daily Star   Women's Reserved Seats in Local Govt   Govt retreats from pledge   Shakhawat Liton   In a surprise move the caretaker government has retreated from its earlier pledge of reserving 40 percent seats for women at all tiers of the local government system for three consecutive terms. It is widely believed that the government has buckled in the wake of violent protests by hardliner Islamist groups against the National Women's Development Policy 2008. The pledge however was made to effectively empower women at all levels of the local government system. On March 23, the council of advisers approved in principle two ordinances regarding formations and functions of city corporations and municipalities with the provision for reserving 40 percent seats exclusively for women. The government also had a plan to incorporate the same provision in other upcoming laws regarding formations and functions of union, upazila and zila parishads, the sources added. But an Ulema Committee formed by the government to rev! i! ew the women's development policy, on April 17 in its recommendations to the government, strongly opposed the policy and asked the government to scrap the provision for increasing the number of reserved seats for women in the local government system, representatives to which would be elected through direct elections according to the earlier proposal. Following the recommendations of the ulemas, the council of advisers at a special meeting on April 24 finalised the two ordinances regarding city corporations and municipalities scrapping the provision for reserving 40 percent seats for women. The finalised ordinances however propose to continue the current provision for reserving one-third seats for women in city corporations and municipalities, which is expected to be promulgated as a law by the president soon, handing over a whopping victory to the Islamist hardliners in the country. According to the existing provision, Dhaka City Corporation (DCC) ! has! 90 wards headed by as many commissioners. In addition, there are prov isions for 30 women commissioners. Each woman commissioner is in charge of three wards. So in reality each ward has two commissioners -- one generally elected commissioner and the other a woman commissioner who is also elected by voters of three wards. This system leads to conflicts in sharing responsibilities as generally elected commissioners are often found to be non-cooperating with the specially elected women commissioners. Similar power sharing systems exist for other city corporations, municipalities and union parishads. But the proposed law suggested 40 percent of the total 90 wards of DCC be reserved for women. So, there would be no dual commissionership in any ward. Such reserved seats for women were supposed to be in place for three terms totalling in 15 years. After that the government was to make a fresh decision on whether the reserved women's seats would exist or not. Defending the government's back flip, LGRD Adviser Anwarul Iqbal on Apri! l 27 ! claimed to the media that the provision for reserving 40 percent seats for women had to be scrapped, since it would come into conflict with a court verdict. A government formed expert committee on strengthening local government institutions led by incumbent Health Adviser MM Shawkat Ali, which came up with the original proposal, however did so after reviewing the High Court verdict. The committee found nothing wrong in reserving 40 percent seats for women for the next 15 years, instead it argued that the constitution does not discourage making special provisions for women's development. Referring to the High Court judgement on a writ filed by some women ward commissioners elected to reserved seats in Khulna City Corporation, the LGRD adviser said the provision for reserving seats for women should not be a permanent system. The petitioners filed the writ to avoid being marginalised in the name of being assigned with 'special duties'. ! In ! fact according to the High Court's verdict, representatives e lected to reserved seats for women cannot be officially assigned with 'special duties' in local governments and they must be treated as equals to other elected representatives. The High Court verdict actually said nothing about the percentage of seats to be reserved for women. DRFAT LAW FOR ZILA, UPAZILA & UNION PARISHADS Meanwhile, in line with the government's latest reversal of decisions, the LGRD ministry already drafted a law regarding formations, elections and functions of union, upazila and zila parishads without keeping the provision for reserving 40 percent seats for women, who would be elected through direct votes, sources in the ministry said. The draft ordinance proposes to continue the current provision for reserving three seats for women in each union parishad, having jurisdiction over nine general wards, a source said. Meaning, each elected woman to reserved seats in a union parishad will have to share her authorit! y with th! ree other elected members, running the risk of being marginalised. At upazila and zila parishad levels, instead of reserving 40 percent seats for women, the new draft law proposes to keep one-third of total posts reserved for women, who will be elected through indirect votes. Women, who are already elected to reserved seats at lower tiers of the local government system will only be able to contest in elections to upazila and zila parishads, and an electoral college of already elected women to reserved seats at lower tiers will elect from among themselves the representatives to reserved seats for women in upazila and zila parishads, says the draft law. The LGRD ministry draft however proposes to create a post of a vice-chairman in each upazila and zila parishads, which will be reserved for women elected through direct votes. Currently there are around 14,500 women representatives elected to reserved seats in over 4,000 union parishad! s, 6 city c! orporations, and the municipalities. One of several CNG filling stations between Kanchpur Bridge and Jatrabari of the capital which BNP big shots built on the Kutubkhali canal, drastically reducing Dhaka's drainage capability. PHOTO: STAR -->

 

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