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Thursday, July 3, 2008

[mukto-mona] Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world !

Repentence for the past mistakes and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way to create a better world and unify people not by justifying the crimes and misdeeds or by denials   !
 
wrt:
 
Yes, the ordinary people of Pakistan was not responsible for the
atrocities of 1971in Bangladesh by the  ruling Junta of Pakistan  of
which  Jamaate Islami (JIB) was the main local collaborator.
 
Among many reasons that "keep the Muslims of Bangladesh and
Pakistan divided" is a basic attitude that is reflected in the blog below:
"Paki-Jamaati snakes are undermining our Liberation 
War with their venoms and justifying Pak-attrocitie in the
name of Islam...... [Javed Iqbal Kaleem's blog].
Here is the quote justifying the genocide of 1971 in the
name of Islam :
"Anybody or group that raises arms against a Muslim government,
loses his identity of a Muslim and becomes a renegade. He deserves
death penalty for his rebellion... ....If the Jamaat helped and supported
the army. it did it for the cause of Muslim Ummah. When Awami League
tried to break a Muslim country by seeking aid of the worst anti-Muslim
enemy, Jamaat tried to save Pakistan." - Jamaati Javed Iqbal Kaleem in
Do you approve this Paki-Jamaati propaganda,Brother Hannan ?
 
The people of different countries can join together to
form a better world only through a bottom up approach.
Although very feeble we can see a growth of
voices of conscince in Pakistan which can unify
the mankind: Repentence for the past mistakes  
and asking the victims for forgiveness is the only way
to create a better world for the people of the countries
that had been at war with each other, not by justifying the
crimes and misdeeds or denials.
 
 
Voice of Conscience from Pakistan  
 
 
 
Photo: Prothom Alo 12/27/2007
 
Read the full story at:
[12-27-2007]
 
Like charity, religion and moral values begins at home. Islam can benefit by creating
an environments for better families and tolerance towards others, not by preaching own
supremacy, hatered & parochialism in the name of Islam.
 
 
Syed Aslam
 

 
On 7/2/08, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:



Dear members,
 
Assalamu Alaikum. As regards the correspondence below , as far as I nderstand there are some extremists on both sides who are  making highly sentimental stories to inflame public opinion. The truth, free from propaganda, on the events of 71can be properly evaluated if any one reads the accounts on it by senior writers from Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Americans and European journalists.Then only it will be possible to form a balanced view.
Recently my niwce , a journalist went to Pakistan in a journalists delegation .She wrote and also told me that common people of Pakistan  say that they are in no way responsible.It is only the then politicians and  generals who were responsible for all mis-happengs.They feel that some element are out to keep the Muslims of Bangladesh and Pakistan divided so that enemies of these countries and Islam can benefit.
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
----- Original Message:
Bangladesh: A Legacy of Blood, Lest we forget—lest we forget!
 
Mr. Saluddin Ayubi

These are clear indications that few Paki-Jamaatis [ Javed, Kaukab et el] are very active
 in Bangladeshi forums and trying to justify the crimes of 1971 where Jamaate Islami was
the main accessory and collaborator with it's Al-Badar in the front-line.
Till today, they are actively trying to falsify our history and justify their crimes and atrocities
of 1971 in the name of Islam. JIB and its cohorts  have the same game plan.
 
I have no problem with the ordinary people of Pakistan, they are as deprived as our
ordinary masses. What has happened in 1971 is a phenomenon. This phenomenon
may repeat unless the new generation know the true history of our Nation's birth
and stay alert against all external enemies, and enemies within. The price for our
independence was paid with the blood of our masses and the izzats of mothers and
sisters. 
 
Do you see that the same Pakistani indoctrination still prevails, I have been called
a Hindu (Mr. Sri Gose) , promoting his Indian agenda,  just because I have a different
vision or different points of view. I read in history books and heard from our elderly that every
democratic movements before independence [1947-71 from Bhasa Andolon to 6-point /11-point movements] were termed as acts of Hindus promoting Indian agenda. I think, you know  better than me ....
 
Lo and behold ! All our victories of yesterday
Is embedded in one that we paid the price with blood...
And the honor of our mothers and sisters ...
Stay alert of the traitors and enemies within .....
Lest we forget—lest we forget!
 
Thanks for your patience
 
Syed Aslam
 
 
 
On 7/1/08, Salahuddin Ayubi <s_ayubi786@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

              I fail to understand as to why are you trying to quote from a Pakistani national  and trying to prove that he is Bangladeshi Jamat Activist. Pakistanis may say anything but we can not take that as bench mark for anything because we are no longer Pakistan. We were Pakistan for only 24 years and we are Bangladesh for 37 years. the most active part of our population were all born in bangladesh. Then why cant you forget Pakistan. We have nothing to do with them. they are not our friend , philosopher or guide. So why bother about them. Just believe that Pakistan do not exist.

                     Salahuddin ayubi 

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, Syed Aslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> wrote:

 
 
Mr. Bahar
 
When in doubt, check it out [follow your big brothers of 1971]
 
"Merir tonoy jodi Isshor tonoy hoi, Ghoser tonoy tobey dosher to noy !"
 
I just wonder what a metamorphosis Mr. Bahar has gone through in 40 years .......now he is an apologist for the JIB, a buddhi-Jibi working for Jamaat .   
Read my lips again:
 
 "Paki-Jamaati snakes are undermining our Liberation  War with their venoms and
justifying Pak-attrocitie in the name of Islam...... [Javed Iqbal Kaleem's blog].
Here is the quote justifying the genocide of 1971 in the name of Islam :
"Anybody or group that raises arms against a Muslim government,
loses his identity of a Muslim and becomes a renegade. He deserves
death penalty for his rebellion... ....If the Jamaat helped and supported
the army. it did it for the cause of Muslim Ummah. When Awami League
tried to break a Muslim country by seeking aid of the worst anti-Muslim
enemy, Jamaat tried to save Pakistan." - Jamaati Javed Iqbal Kaleem in
] 
So, you approve this Jamaati propaganda, Mr. Bahar?
 
Mr. Bahar you are basically saying that opposing this attitude
and defending the Glory of  our War of Liberation is to
promote the Indian agenda ......
 
Mr. Bahar when your logic fails you use "argumentum ad hominem".
I have to admit, you specialize in the propaganda tactics of repeatedly
falsifying facts and personal attacks.  Oh, yeah ! people who glorify our liberation war do not have shame, because they don't wear the special kind of lebash that Jamaatis wear.
 
 
Syed Aslam
 
PS:   You previously called him Mr. Sri Gose. Your Pakistani collegue called him Tilak Mataji, no wonder you guys are indoctrinated in the same Goebelian School: Propaganda must facilitate the displacement of aggression by specifying the targets for hatred.
On 6/30/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Gose(Syed Aslam):
Namaskar,
Please read the following:
 
 I am surprised to see people in the Notun Bangla forgot that this gentleman used two Muslim names to promote his Indian agenda. I previously called him Mr. Sri Gose. After my rebuttle he stopped using one Muslim name and now is very cosy using the other Sufi  like name, Syed Aslam. But I saved all his previous files where he used two names.
 
Lately he wrote here:
"I have openly declared many times
that, I consider Jamaate Islami Bangladesh (JIB) the most henious
socio-political group in the history of  Bangladesh. This group
is a proven traitor and have never regreted for their misdeeds of
1971. Now they are trying to justify their crimes of 1971 in cahoot
with their Paki-cohorts. [Paki-Jamaati snakes are undermining  the our
Liberation  War with their venoms and justifying Pak-attrocities in the
name of Islam....."
 
Well, why to wonder in this Gose's commitment to hate Jamati Islami and its cohorts. Mr. Gose giving everybody advise to worship the Indian/ AL agenda of 1971 liberation war and divide our nation between pro-liberation and anti- liberation forces is not surprising.

 
Mr. Gose,
It has been close to 40 years. You are playing the broken record. If you get paid for this full time job to feed your family, that is your business but in your very immoral act how do you feel to advise people? Previously, I asked you to ask your consciounce and to keep quiet or use the real name. I can see that people who have no shame do not change. But here I can see someone even giving us advise.
 
Attention : Mr. Md. Mostafa Kamal
 
 
Mr. Md. Mostafa Kamal
 
What makes you so irritated? Mr Golam Ahmed is a gentleman and
admitted that it was a "copy paste mistake"
 
In general, I am not interested in nitpicking and didn't want to get
dragged into that debate.
 
But, as a matter of fact I have no problem in using the term BAL.
Read my past posts, I have used the word  BAL many times to indicate
Awami League.
 
However, we the Bangladeshis do not use ML for Muslim League
JIB for Jamaate Islami of Bangladesh  or BAL for Bangladesh
Awami League, in general. It is very clear from your posts that you
are using the word BAL in bad faith with your pubic senses and
biased understandings of the ongoing historical processes.
 
I desdain to conceal my views: I have openly declared many times
that, I consider Jamaate Islami Bangladesh (JIB) the most henious
socio-political group in the history of  Bangladesh. This group
is a proven traitor and have never regreted for their misdeeds of
1971. Now they are trying to justify their crimes of 1971 in cahoot
with their Paki-cohorts. [Paki-Jamaati snakes are undermining  the our
Liberation  War with their venoms and justifying Pak-attrocitie in the
name of Islam......[ Javed Iqbal Kaleem's blog].
Here is the quote justifying the genocide of 1971 in the
name of Islam :
"Anybody or group that raises arms against a Muslim government,
loses his identity of a Muslim and becomes a renegade. He deserves
death penalty for his rebellion... ....If the Jamaat helped and supported
the army. it did it for the cause of Muslim Ummah. When Awami League
tried to break a Muslim country by seeking aid of the worst anti-Muslim
enemy, Jamaat tried to save Pakistan." - Jamaati Javed Iqbal Kaleem in
]
 
Mr. Kamal, You are stunchly anti-BAL. Just admit it ! That is the fact !
 As I see,  you and your Mastuto cousins get tremendous amounts of inner
pubic sataisfaction when using the term BAL for Awami League. If you want
to fight Awami League, fight politically, not with your pubic narrowness.
 
As always, am a silent on-looker of of the events that are unfolding before
our eyes. Between BNP and Awami League, I look into their agenda
case by case basis. Each party has it's own GOOD, BAD and UGLY.
 
Sorry, Julfi ki baat may BAL o pe aagiya .....
 
Take it easy ....
 
Thanks
 
Syed Aslam
PS: In urdu, Bal means human hair, alternatively it may mean
wings. Please read Bal-i-Jibril (Urdu: با ل جبر یل; or Gabriel's Wing
by poet Allama Iqbal and freshen up your mind !!!!)
 
On 6/30/08, Md. Mostafa Kamal <mmk3k@yahoo. com> wrote:

Mr. Aslam,

Why are you now avoiding or hiding, huh?

It because you strongly guided by your heart & not by brain. That is why you making

Mr. Golam Ahmed's simple matter to complex things.

 

You agree or not BAL = Bangladesh Awami League. That is the fact.

 

Thank You All,

 

Md. Mostafa Kamal.


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