I'm a Bongu intellectual.
For me there is little difference between 300,000 deaths or 3 million
deaths. As a Bongu intellectual the main thing that matters for me is
that we count most of the intellectuals killed in 71. I say 'most'
because we intellectuals have yet to count high enough. And we don't
give a damn about how many common people really died. The important
thing is that we agree that a lot of them died.
We don't care about counting. We don't care about finding the dead
bodies of lost ones, about identifying loved ones, about looking for
mass graves.
I'm a Bongu intellectual. We do it differently in Bangladesh. Come to
Bangladesh and find out how easy it is to be an intellectual!
Nobody asks for exact numbers. Nobody asks for an analysis of numbers.
Nobody asks where the mass graves are. Well this is Bonguland, home of
the Bongu intellectual. We're only interested in people who went to
university. Who gives a crap about the names and bodies of poor people? Come on!
Come to Bonguland where Bongu intellectuals demand trials for genocide
but then get upset when you ask about where the bodies are! Bodies!
Whats that got to do with anything? We've got 3 million songs and poems catering for the needs of intellectuals. Who needs bodies!
I ain't the smartest alec around baby. But if it comes to betting
between me and a Bongu intellectual the smart money is on me everytime. Or maybe you can point me to the right Bongu intellectual who knows how to walk the talk? It sure as heck ain't you.
Where are the 3 million bodies? What a dumb question when talking about genocide!
Bloody Bongu intellectuals. They talk about killing fields but don't
want to look for them.
Maybe you can get a white friend to stick up for you?
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...> wrote:
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> Who is doing this asking for an EXACT headcount of how many men,
women, children, and Muktijoddhas fighting on various fronts over nine
months died and for what purpose is that EXACT headcount useful?
International War Crimes Tribunals that have conducted trials in various
countries in recent years do not seem to insist on EXACT number.
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> Why is this Kuwaiti expat Bongu think he is the smartest alec and all
others are fools not to act like a Necromancer that he secretly is?
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> How do you pacify the whines of a lonesome Zombie?
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> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:52:02 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Mujib's confusion on Bangladeshi deaths
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opinion and Mujib's greatest supporters add creedence to it by their
stubborn refusal to even attempt to research the number. That it fell
from the Mighty Mujib's lips is sufficient. If further evidence is
required then the fact that the mighty Mujib simply quoted the Mighty
Yahya Khan's intention to kill 3 million should suffice.
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recently it appeared in that 'letter' in the Guardian. It is told in a
clever format so that the figure '3 million' appears as an instantaneous
invention of an ebullient leader who does not know the difference
between the Bengali number 'lakh' from the English word 'million'.
Serajur Rahman does not divulge that Sheikh Mujib might have actually
heard the Yahya Khan radio interview given in Feb. 1971, or he might
have heard about Yahya Khan boasting of the jolly prospect of killing 3
million Banggals through the post-1970 election grapevine of
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by the enormity of the number, though that is an important determinant,
but by the ferocity of the intentionality. Below is a snippet excerpt
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"Kill three million of them and the rest will eat out of our hands"
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to make "them" eat out of "our" hands, i.e., subjugation of a whole race
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campaigning.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/mujib-confusion-on-banglades\
hi-deaths
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