"But without religion moral foundation can not come."
From: SAHANNAN <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: [Alapon] Fwd: Indian Muslims March in Protest Against Saudi Wahhabi Cultural Vandalism
Another blanket statement without any logical and historical evidences. People were far more religious in the past and that did not make societies any more civil than they are right now. Humans are basically another species with a full battery of animal instincts and behaviors, which are not too far away from other lower primates. No amount of religiosity can cure these many millions years of primordial instincts and behaviors. They can be masked temporarily with some draconian punishments but that would not work in long run. You can dream about that imaginary civility but it is beyond anybody's capacity and power to force upon to us. That is the true reality! The examples are abundant and plenty.
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: SAHANNAN <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: [Alapon] Fwd: Indian Muslims March in Protest Against Saudi Wahhabi Cultural Vandalism
Respected brother,
Best regards and Salam.
The world has been more divided by nationalism (on the basis of geography, language etc) and communism (on the basis of class).Religion united much more people. Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism unite billions of people.
I am conscious of abuse of religion in the past and now. These have to be tackled. But without religion moral foundation can not come. Extreme moral decline of the world is directly linked with pushing religion on the sidelines.
In any case, kindly excuse me for my views.
Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:49 PM
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Hannan Saheb, I do not disagree with you that most of the good in this world came from good people, and many of them are (moderately) religious. It's all about the level of religiosity in people. Yes, most people were/are to some extent religious. Problem is not there; problem is with the undeniable divisions religions have introduced in the world that have been the root of all troubles. Also, I agree with you that ' conviction ' is the key to the success, be that religious or scientific. My question is - where will you invest your conviction, in religion or science? Religious fanatics invest most of their conviction in religion. That's a waste, in my view. You won't able to show me a single benefit that we could not have achieved without religion. People often tell me that we got morality from religion. But, when you dig into the life histories of religious leaders, you will find that most of them are peppered with immoralities. What we do with it? We choose to ignore or cover up those dark spots to hide our stupidity. In that effort, we try to praise them even more with colorful terms to camouflage their dark past. We do so – because we do not have the courage or power to confront it; religion is really a big powerful political tool now. There is no way out. Jiten Roy --- On Sat, 1/19/13, SAHANNAN < sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote: From: SAHANNAN < sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: [Alapon] Fwd: Indian Muslims March in Protest Against Saudi Wahhabi Cultural Vandalism To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 19, 2013, 9:22 AM Jiten sahib's opinion, I can not share .Most of the good in the world are done by good people who are mostly religious. Faith does not mean , at least in the case of Islam irrational faith. The word for faith in Islam comes from the root word Amnun( Alif Mim Noon) which really means conviction. Please read the book Tauhid, its meaning for thought and life by Late Shahid Ismail Raji al Faruqi a former Professor of Temple University , USA . Shah Abdul Hannan From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:11 AM To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [Alapon] Fwd: Indian Muslims March in Protest Against Saudi Wahhabi Cultural Vandalism
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