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Sunday, March 16, 2008

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Are we loosing DJU

Come on, Avijit, give us a break!

 

Dear Avijit: Sometimes I attend meetings of our BD community where everybody is a speaker and they all talk from 1947-2008, same monotonous repetitions. I just remember this while reading your latest posting about me. Come on, Avijit, give us a break!

 

If you read again my posting supporting Iraq War, you will see that, I told clearly, Saddam & Iraq was partly responsible for Islamization of Bangladesh through Moulana Mannan, Inquilab, Ershad & others. Well, people are suffering, what we can do? Look at the so-called Islamic world, people are suffering and I think they will suffer till they separate religion from the State.

 

Dear Avijit, you cited some funny arguments comparing Prof. Ajoy Roy & me. Please don't do that, don't bring Ajoy Sir to your level or my level. From respect to Sir, l will refrain taking his name any more after this mail. You argued that both Ajoy sir & I are supporters of HRCBM but Ajoyda did not support Iraq war, I did, so I am a Hindu fundamentalist! Great hypothesis!! You also argued that Ajoyda did not congratulate Bush while I did, so I am a Hindu conservative! I guess you should be nominated for the Nobel peace prize for such discoveries!!

 

It's obvious that I live in a bi-polar world but not as it was described by you or somebody else; rather it is militant Islam & mankind. I belong to the second, where you belong?  Dear Avijit, your last but one sentence tells that you need to learn a lot from your respected father.  

 

Thank you. May be we will stop this episode.

Guha



On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Roy" <"Avijit> wrote:

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/47151

Mr. Guha's balderdash again made me laugh. Mr. Guha thought that I
was attacking him because he was a hindu and his association with
HRCBM. He asked me why I did not call Ajoy Roy a hindu
fundamentalist then.

The answer is simple. Unlike Mr. Guha, Prof. Ajoy Roy did not
support illegal Iraq war and did not play any supporting role in
Bangladeshi forums for promoting hate-mongering advocacy to stir up
war against Iraqi people. In fact he wrote 3 part series articles,
named – "An Immoral War thrust upon Iraqi People". Mr. Guha can
read Prof. Ajoy Roy's series from here :

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/current_issue/immoral_war_ajoy.htm
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/current_issue/immoral_war_ajoy2.htm
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/current_issue/immoral_war_ajoy3.htm

Ajoy Roy also did not play any supportive role for Bush for the
illegal war , neither did he congratulated Bush after election. So,
before using Ajoy Roy as a shield, Mr. Guha should know the
philosophy and stand of secular writers of Mukto-Mona. In fact, Dr.
Jaffor Ullah has pointed out correctly- Mr. Guha lives in a true
Bipolar world – his world is either `Muslim world' or it is
a `Hindu world'. Since MM secular members rejects Hindu
fundamentalism just as they reject Islamic or Christian
fundamentalism, and for this, some unpleasant truth of Hinduism is
exposed time to time, Jaffor Ullah or Jahed becomes a closet
Muslim. But Mr. Guha fails to realize that not only Jahed or Jaffor –
the secular writers of Muslim origin, many non Muslim writers such
as Sankar Ray, Ajoy Roy, Audrey Manning or Avijit Roy rejects his
extreme view. Of course then, Mr. Guha reserves some kind words
like – `hypocrites', `psedo-seculars', `mentally disordered
liberals' etc.

Mr. Guha supported Iraq war because he thought Mr. Bush would give
the `Muslims' a good lesson! And this is how probably his 'hindu soul' would attain Nirvana. When his philosophy was being exposed, he thought he was under attack.
Mr. Guha frequently uses the abusive words towards
the MM writers, but again he is the guy who thinks that he is the
victim of personal attack here. Playing to get victimized - is a
favorite game for him. If Mr. Guha was so concerned for the
minorities, he should not support Iraq war, as I mentioned earlier -
Iraq having no WMD, no connection with Al qaeda, or even no
connection with 9/11. Mr. Guha should also realize how minority
rights got violated when 1 million death occurred in Iraq, the
three-four million dead in US supported Polpot regime, the hundreds
and thousands dead in Latin America, half a million children who
died in Iraq and Afghan due to sanctions or bombing. Mr. Guha should
also realize how warm relationship was maintained between Bush Govt
and Saudi monarchy that are responsible for spreading washbasin
throughout the entire world. When I pointed out these in my earlier
posts, he advised me to forget about these, and should focus ONLY
on Bangladesh!

I think the world could be better off without such bipolar minority
rights activists, for sure.

This is my last response in this thread.

Avijit


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