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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Re: [ALOCHONA] RE: Cow Story

Health record.

As we are witnessing American politics, there is question regarding age and health issues. Both of the candidates are seems to be fairly fit for the grueling job of running the country.

If we try to see the picture of health in Bangladeshi politician, it seem all of them are trying to prove how sick they are. It is very much possible that as soon as they come to USA and looked at by physicians, miracle will happen, they will be able to see, hear and walk again.

Thank god for good doctors of America. They will put Humpty-dumpty togather again.


--- On Thu, 6/5/08, Malek Saza <maleksaza@usa.net> wrote:

> From: Malek Saza <maleksaza@usa.net>
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] RE: Cow Story
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 1:53 PM
> Cow Story
>
>
>
> TRADITIONAL ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You sell one and buy a bull.
> > Your herd multiplies and the economy grows.
> > You retire on the income.
> >
> > INDIAN ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You worship them.
> >
> > PAKISTAN ECONOMICS
> > You don't have any cows.
> > You claim that the Indian cows belong to you.
> > You ask the US for financial aid, China for
> military aid, British
> for
> > technology, French for submarines, Switzerland
> for loans, Russia
> for
> > drugs and Japan for equipment.
> > You buy the cows with all this and claim
> exploitation by the world.
> >
> > AMERICAN ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You sell one and force the other to produce
> the milk of four cows.
> > You profess surprise when the cow drops dead.
> You put the blame on
> some nation with cows and naturally that nation will be a
> danger to mankind.
> > You wage a war to save the world and grab the
> cows.
> >
> > FRENCH ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You go on strike because you want three cows.
> >
> > GERMAN ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You reengineer them so that they live for 100
> years, eat once a
> month and milk themselves.
> >
> > BRITISH ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > They are both mad cows.
> >
> > ITALIAN ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You don't know where they are.
> > You break for lunch.
> >
> > SWISS ECONOMICS
> > You have 5000 cows, none of which belong to
> you.
> > You charge others for storing them.
> >
> > JAPANESE ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You redesign them so that they are one-tenth
> the size of an
> ordinary
> > cow and produce twenty times the milk.
> > You then create cute cartoon cow images called
> Cowkimon and market
> > them worldwide.
> >
> > RUSSIAN ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You count them and learn you have five cows.
> > You count them again and learn you have 42
> cows.
> > You count them again and learn you have 17
> cows.
> > You give up counting and open another bottle
> of vodka.
> >
> > CHINESE ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You have 300 people milking them.
> > You claim full employment, high bovine
> productivity and arrest
> anyone reporting the actual numbers.
> >
> > BANGLADESH ECONOMICS
> > You have two cows.
> > You don't know economy.
> > You choose one of them as the Prime Minister
> of the country and the
> > other as the Leader of the Opposition
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:40:18 AM AST
> From: Kajimel Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail.com>
> To: <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Human Rights and Migrants
>
>
> By my opinion, Mr. Mufssil Hussains' assertion, "I
> don't know why Mr. Turkman
> talks as always baselessly and without examples. I
> challenge that the Western
> view is not democratic." is really baseless indeed.
> It does not appear that
> the facts will support Mr. Mufassil's claim. Heaven
> does not exit anywhere in
> the world. All we have to live with statistical facts. It
> also depends on what
> the author means by the word "democratic".
> Mangacarta used to provide perfect
> democracy Britons while the colonies did not have any
> chance to taste it.
> Similarly, when someone lives in any of the the western
> countries, if he/she
> is the citizen of that country then the constitution of
> that country allows
> that person to exercise full democratic rights.
> Constitution protects that
> person, most of the time, in full. No system is full proof.
> So, isolated
> unfavorable incidents may happen. But the fact is that the
> people of most of
> the western country extremely respect their constitution,
> which in the other
> part of the world meagerly happen. A lot of people of other
> parts of the
> world, have other agenda on top of the constitution of the
> country. If
> Bangladeshi people had real respect for the constitution,
> the country would be
> many many fold prosperous than what it is today. This is
> also a reason why
> Bangladesh, instead of progressing, going more towards
> hardship and anarchy,
> leaving behind the democracy of the people.
> Self-criticizing is more necessary
> to achieve this goal, rather than boasting and blaming with
> irreality and
> falsehood.
>
>
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.comFrom:
> mufassili@hotmail.comDate: Sat, 31 May 2008
> 15:47:12 +0000Subject: [ALOCHONA] Human Rights and Migrants
>
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Aziz, Mr. Turkman and Other Readers:It is easy to
> get carried away
> into the vortex of conflicting issues if we do not take on
> board, patience and
> constructive critocims of opposing view holders on board.I
> agree that the
> nourishment of freedom of speech in EU (sorry but I do have
> further
> reservations about the US) is held high but these rights
> are often manipulated
> and misguided in the name of atrocious laws as rightly said
> by Karl Marx once
> that law is the toll of oppression by the ruler. Al must
> agree that during and
> soon after second world war - may fundamental human rights
> were currauled even
> for the UK citizens in UK for the sake of national security
> and I believe
> these sorts of checks should be allowed when national
> security is doomed but
> the question is for how long and for how much? The recent
> atrocities and
> threats of atrocities in the West has very reasonable
> justifications of
> putting a check on people at random or even basing on their
> religious and
> national entities whilst visiting the West - esxpecially
> the US. I was more
> than once checked by the authorities and I have had no
> reason to worry as the
> authorities did explain that it was a random checking even
> though it did
> appear to me that the system did target me. It is also true
> that the criminals
> do not necessarily have to wear a beard to pose a threat
> and even may be of
> European origin. But it is not true as well that we are not
> curtailed of our
> freedom of expressions in the West. It is not at all right
> to presume that our
> thoughts can be told at full. Here are some examples:The
> issue of Palestinians
> blowing themselves up - although I do not support the act
> at all but it is
> also true that these acts do emanate from decades of utter
> frustration and
> from series of torture by the Israeli regime which is being
> backed blindly by
> the US government. Mrs. Blair was subjected to severe
> criticisms and even
> calls were made by the media to boycot her when she had
> expressed that she did
> feel the utter frustration of the Palestinians. There are
> criminals and crazy
> people in Iraq who are against peace but its is also true
> that there are
> people in that country who want to see the Americans go and
> if they declare
> war and pick up arms in defence of the liberty of their
> motherland - West will
> never allow them to be called 'freedom fighters' as
> under the 'glorification'
> clause of the Terrorims Act 2006 in UK or under the
> Homeland Security Act of
> the US. An example of this is the comments against George
> Galloway MP (UK)
> when he had done so. What about many MPs in UK who had lost
> their party
> nominations after they had mentioned that the UK parliament
> was a poodle of
> the zionist regime? Or what about the Historian who had
> questioned the depth
> of the authenticity of the German atrocities on the zews?
> Or what about the
> several examples of money lending scandals from the zewish
> peers in UK and
> what about Mr. Lor Levi being posted as a Minister even
> though he was part of
> the money lending scandal in the British Government? I
> don't know why Mr.
> Turkman talks as always baselessly and without examples. I
> challenge that the
> Western view is not democratic. We do go their for
> practical means of
> survitude and benefits of this world but that does not mean
> we the people of
> the East are blindly unethical. What do you call the US
> policy or the Amnesty
> International's report about US being the worst
> violators of Human Rights in
> the world? If you do not know the statistics - please ask
> me brother but Mr.
> Turkman's utter use of bad and vulgar language proves
> the point that either he
> has a close relative in the family who is White Christian
> American and that
> has pushed him to be utterly biased or he has lost the plot
> simply because he
> is uninformed. We do not have any grudges about white,
> yellow or blue or even
> against people of other faiths but we must not be carried
> away blindly. As for
> Islam I have only a few excerpts from the Quran and that
> should suffice for
> Muslims travelling to other country:Sura Al Araf:On Entry
> intio new city:161.
> And (remember) when it was said to them: "Dwell in
> this town (Jerusalem) and
> eat therefrom wherever you wish, and say, '(O All�h)
> forgive our sins'; and
> enter the gate prostrate (bowing with humility). We shall
> forgive you your
> wrong-doings. We shall increase (the reward) for the
> good-doers."And we must
> respect their laws but not at the cost of our souls and you
> want us out of
> there? Surprised - how you became a poodle as you decided
> not to enter into
> the world of intellectual battle. Allah made us poor
> financially but
> spiritually rich so that we can all work for the spread of
> Islam - the only
> peaceful life. Read Sura Al Araf it also teaches us to be
> patient as people
> will surely hurl abuses.I don't know under law of which
> country the Government
> can cease passports for ever as suggested by Mr. Turkman
> but is a good advise
> to lecture the prospective migrant to advise them about
> foreign culture as
> adopted by Phillipines (Post Departure Seminar) - Mr.
> Turkman you forgot to
> give an example and I am giving it for all.Read my latest
> article
> http://www.thedailystar.net/law/2008/05/05/index.htmSincerely,Mufassil
> M M
> IslamHuman Rights Advocate
>
>
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.comFrom:
> turkman@sbcglobal.netDate: Wed, 28 May 2008
> 14:36:37 -0700Subject: [ALOCHONA] Bahrain Gulf News -
> Bahrain & Bangladeshis
>
>
> I have no idea, why these people can find a Conspiracy
> Theory behind
> everything that goes wrong with our saintly people
> anywhere.Nilkanto Chowdhury
> <nilkanto@myway.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There are people who are working against Bangladeshi in
> Middle East so that
> they can ruin Bangladeshi job market there and get benifite
> from that. Our
> government and people should speak up about that. Please be
> aware of that kind
> of people and media. Well, people from all nations are
> doing nusty things. We
> don't blame the full nation for that, do we? Why then
> Bangladeshi?--- On Mon
> 05/26, Robin Khundkar < rkhundkar@earthlink.net >
> wrote:
> From: Robin Khundkar [mailto: rkhundkar@earthlink.net]To:
> undisclosed-recipientsDate: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:33:58 -0400
> (EDT)Subject:
> [ALOCHONA] Bahrain Gulf News - Bahrain & Bangladeshis
>
> This is really bad news. A hysteria seems to be rising
> againsts workers from
> Bangladesh. Though murder cannot be justified under any
> circumstances but does
> anyone know what happened that led to this tragic crime or
> the general
> perception that all Bengalis are prone to crimes. I have
> heard that employers
> mistreat workers and withhold their hard earned salaries,
> etc. RobinBahrain
> government urged to stop hiring
> Bangladeshishttp://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/08/05/26/10216119.html05/26/2008
> 11:50 PM | By Habib Toumi, Bureau ChiefManama: Decisions on
> hiring of
> Bangladeshi workers would have to be made by various
> official bodies, said a
> labour official as pressure mounted on the Bahraini
> government to halt the
> hiring of Bangladeshis.Several Bahrainis, including
> journalists and a
> parliamentary bloc, have called upon the authorities not to
> allow Bangladeshis
> to work in the kingdom following the murder of a
> 38-year-old Bahraini at a
> garage on Friday.Mohammad Hassan Al Dossary, a father of
> three daughters, was
> killed by Bangladeshi worker Mohammad, also a father of two
> daughters living
> with their mother in their native village, following an
> argument.The mechanic
> allegedly attacked Al Dossary using a grinder before
> fleeing the scene,
> according to his sponsor, to hide in a mosque several
> kilometres away before
> he was arrested.The murder revived calls made last year to
> take stringent
> measures against Bangladeshis following the killing of a
> Bahraini woman by her
> cook.Monitoring"Such a decision is not just about
> cancelling work permits by
> the Labour Ministry, but involves several other government
> bodies. There is a
> close monitoring of all events that helps understand the
> general orientation
> of the labourers and their adaptation to the character of
> the Bahraini
> society," Jameel Al Humaidan, Labour Ministry
> Undersecretary, said
> yesterday.Al Asala, the second largest parliamentary bloc,
> called for a
> timetable to deport Bangladeshis, saying that they
> represented a threat to
> social peace and stability."We are shocked by the
> number and frequency of the
> murders and crimes perpetrated by this community, and the
> government should
> act promptly to deport those who are now in Bahrain and to
> stop issuing any
> new permits," Al Asala said."We will soon submit
> a motion to the parliament to
> force the government to end the hiring of Bangladeshis
> because of their
> aggressive and tense character," the Islamist bloc
> said.Several columnists
> called for the "immediate and irrevocable"
> deportation of Bangladeshis,
> warning that failure to take action would mean more hostile
> behaviour.However,
> the head of Al Meethaq Society, Ahmad Juma, rejected the
> calls, saying that
> Bangladesh should not be punished for the crimes by some of
> its
> citizens.Bahraini blogger calls for ban on all Bangladeshis
> after horrible
> murderhttp://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/08/05/25/10215875.html05/24/2008
> 11:09 PM | By Habib Toumi, Bureau ChiefManama: Bahrainis on
> Saturday called
> for a ban on the hiring of Bangladeshi workers, hours after
> the gruesome
> murder of a Bahraini father of three."We have noticed
> that most of the crimes
> in this country are perpetrated by people coming from
> Bangladesh, and the wise
> thing to do is to stop bringing them to Bahrain," a
> Bahraini blogger wrote on
> a website. "We should have no mercy for the killer and
> ban other Bangladeshis
> from coming here out of fear of what they might do to us,
> exactly what Saudi
> Arabia and Kuwait did at one time."Similar calls
> against Bangladeshi labourers
> were made last year following the murder of Sana Al
> Jalahma, a Bahraini woman,
> by her 29-year-old Bangladeshi cook. The cook, angered by
> Al Jalahma's
> remarks, waited hours for her return home to kill her. The
> murderer was
> sentenced to death.However, political activist Ahmad Juma
> said while the calls
> to ban Bangladeshis were understandable because of the
> grisly character of the
> murder, a nation cannot be punished for the acts of some
> citizens."We
> sympathise with the family and friends of the victim, but
> we cannot simply say
> that no Bangladeshi should be allowed in Bahrain because of
> this. The criminal
> should be punished, but the country did nothing
> wrong," he told Gulf
> News.Bahraini Mohammad Hassan Eisa Al Dossary was killed on
> Friday morning
> when a Bangladeshi mechanic attacked him with a grinder. Al
> Dossary, father of
> three daughters, wanted the mechanic to do some welding
> work on his car, but
> the two disagreed over the fee. Witnesses said their
> argument was over 500
> fils (Dh5).The mechanic fled the garage in Hamad Town, 20
> kilometres south of
> Manama, but was eventually arrested after he called his
> sponsor who alerted
> the police and guided them to his hideout.Bahrain is home
> to about 70,000
> Bangladeshis.
>
>
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