If a morally bankrupt person calls me intellectually bankrupt, I take it as complement. Thank you. Why don't you provide us some facts (including dates) and reasoning what MOSAD did in
>
> Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
>
> I requested you to provide your analysis with facts and reasoning,
> however, you preferred to express your one-eyed views only. Many
> quarters might be involved in influencing Bangladesh politics. We
> should discuss their roles and interests objectively instead of being
> supportive to any specific one. Why are you trying to portray some
> people as supporters of some agencies? I am a Bangladeshi (and you
> are too, I suppose) and we should uphold the interest of the nation,
> not of other countries. You mentioned about CIA, what about others
> (e.g. RAW, MOSAD)? What do you think about them?
>
> Constantly deviating from the point of discussion to another specific
> one is a kind of intellectual bankruptcy. It reminds me of a famous
> joke. A clever boy sat in exam. He memorised an essay on cows but
> the question paper asked him to write an essay on a river. He
> started. "There was a river. A cow was gazing on its bank. A cow
> has two eyes ... "
>
> How logical is it to make indecent remarks on someone on the ground
> that people of the same party did something which was not decent? An
> Awami League leader celebrated rape century in Jahangirnagar
> University. Should it be reflected while EC makes remark on Sheikh
> Hasina?
>
> Regarding some Islamic parties position on registration in EC, you
> know that it is not new in our politics to change their demands at
> different stages of negotiations. Will you kindly mention what was
> AL's position
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ahsan Mohammed
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Ahsan Mohammed,
> >
> > My problem was your exclusion of ISI, the worst of the foreign
> > intelligence services in our area. To me that was not honesty.
> That
> > doesn't mean that I excluded the others. Especially how can I
> exclude
> > CIA who was involved in killing Bangabandhu and other top national
> > leaders and installing army backed nationalist force in
> Bangladesh? How
> > can I ignore CIA's direct and indirect contribution in return and
> > revival of war criminals in Bangladesh?
> >
> > If supporting lying and hypocrisy of people from Al Badr background
> are
> > part of your socio-cultural background, that I have noting to say.
> And
> > of course, you also can consider what these so-called pseudo-Islamic
> > leaders did in 1971 as very decent, but to me they are just
> savages.
> > You live with your views and I have nothing to say.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > Mohammad Musa Sarkar.
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000"
> > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
> > >
> > > I do not understand how you deduced that I read only right-wing
> > > Bangladeshi newspapers? I have not quoted from any newspaper or
> > > mentioned any piece of news. I have presented my own analysis of
> > > some facts. If you have any difference of opinion about any
> specific
> > > point, please mention it. I also do not understand why you are
> > > defending RAW, MOSAD and CIA. Other intelligence agencies might
> also
> > > be interested in BD politics. If you have any analysis about it,
> > > please mention it with reasons. If you think that RAW, MOSAD and
> CIA
> > > has no interest in BD politics, please also provide your logic
> behind
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Decency and indecency varies from person to person and has
> relation
> > > with the socio-cultural background of someone. If you think that
> > > CEC's remarks on some Islamic parties were decent, then it is your
> > > view and I have nothing to say.
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Ahsan Mohammed,
> > > >
> > > > May be you are only reading the right-wing Bangladeshi
> newpapers.
> > > If
> > > > you read the other papers, you will find more conspiracies. You
> > > will
> > > > find many who consider this current CTG as Jamaat's B team. This
> > > CTG
> > > > has been extraordinarily soft on Jamaat and other religious
> > > fanatics and
> > > > extremists. Look at the joke and circus regarding Al Badr co-
> chief
> > > > Mujahid's arrest. While people like you always smell RAW, MOSSAD
> > > and
> > > > CIA conspiracies, there are lot more people who smell CIA, ISI
> and
> > > > Wahabi conspiracies. It goes both ways.
> > > >
> > > > Your article in Naya Diganta presents only right-wing view
> points
> > > and it
> > > > cannot be accepted as fair and balanced piece. ISI is one of the
> > > top
> > > > players in Indian subcontinent. They are behind many subversive
> > > acts.
> > > > They created Talibans and hence aided Al Qaeda. To leave them
> out
> > > from
> > > > your equation strongly suggest, you are pushing right-wing
> agenda.
> > > You
> > > > mentioned in your article that since BNP's leadership is trying
> to
> > > > negotiate with CTG, they didn't protest CEC's very indecent
> > > > comments on the pseudo-Islamic partners of BNP. May be you can
> > > teach us
> > > > what kind of decent words the CEC should have used for their
> > > outright
> > > > lies. Let me make another very indecent and rude comment about
> > > these
> > > > mullahs - these mullahs actively and enthusiastically
> participated
> > > in
> > > > all sorts of heinous war crimes in 1971. Regards-
> > > >
> > > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000"
> > > > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Alochok Ezajur,
> > > > >
> > > > > It is good to know that there are enlightened and powerful
> elites
> > > who
> > > > > welcome conspiracies against their motherland apparently
> because,
> > > > >
> > > > > âYou canât ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > You canât ensure there wonât be any rioting or
> > deaths at
> > > > the election.
> > > > > You canât ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > You canât ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > You canât ensure that kickbacks from government contracts
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > spotted.
> > > > > You canât ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> > politicians.
> > > > > You canât ensure that politicians will refrain from rabble
> > > > rousing.
> > > > > You canât ensure that MPs wonât financially benefit
> > from
> > > > crooked
> > > > > manpower agents.â
> > > > >
> > > > > Can Indians ensure the above-mentioned checklist? If they are
> > > happy
> > > > > with their spoiled democracy, then why arenât we?
> > > > >
> > > > > How logical is it to welcome military rule or foreign
> intervention
> > > > > because democracy has not yet got sufficient time to
> flourish? Who
> > > > > ruled the country most of the time after its independence,
> > > democratic
> > > > > forces or military rulers with or without uniform?
> > > > >
> > > > > The notion that Americans and others can buy anything they
> want
> > > seems
> > > > > to be an oversimplified assumption. If it were true, then the
> > > world
> > > > > would not have so many wars and troubles. Moreover, sometimes
> > > buying
> > > > > things might involve very high value. The more we welcome
> > > > > conspiracies, the more we become ready to sell ourselves (not
> > > > > personal, saying in general).
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Ezajur Rahman"
> ezajur.rahman@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Alcohok Ahsan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is indeed very well written. But I am not remotely
> bothered
> > > by
> > > > > > conspiracies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In fact I welcome them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure there won't be any rioting or deaths at the
> > > > > election.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that kickbacks from government contracts
> will
> > > be
> > > > > > spotted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> politicians.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that politicians will refrain from rabble
> > > rousing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure that MPs won't financially benefit from
> crooked
> > > > > > manpower agents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can't ensure jack****.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But let's talk about how to stop foreign conspiracies! Woah!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bhai -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It takes 3 ISI agents only to manage Pakistan's interests
> > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It takes 2 RAW agents only to manage India's interests in
> > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And it is just a wet dream that the Americans, Brits,
> Chinese
> > > etc
> > > > > are
> > > > > > working hard to subvert the elections.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why should they even bother? They can buy anything they
> want...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The common masses cannot do anything until the common
> masses can
> > > > > > successfully demand real change in our politics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The biggest conspiracy in Bangladesh is the perpetuation of
> > > family
> > > > > > politics by mid level AL and BNP supporters who just love to
> > > pretend
> > > > > > they are very flexible, agenda free, reasonable people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any conspiracy that undermines the election of Hasina and
> > > Khaleda
> > > > > and
> > > > > > undermines the baboons of the AL and BNP central committees
> is
> > > > > welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know where I can make a donation...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We can't build a boat to carry 200 people safely in 2008
> but we
> > > sure
> > > > > > kicked the 5th Fleet back to the USA back in 1971 didn't we!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing personal Ahsan - your piece was excellently
> written. I'm
> > > > > just
> > > > > > ranting...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Ahsan Mohammad vai
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very well written analysis. Though there is no way of
> knowing
> > > for
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > that such incidents will take place, but many indications
> are
> > > > > pointing
> > > > > > towards that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What can we, the common mass, do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:27 AM, alochona@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a Better Bangladesh
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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> > > > > > Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general election in
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> > > > > > Posted by: "Ahsan Mohammed" ahsan_mohammed2000@
> > > > > > <mailto:ahsan_mohammed2000@?Subject=%20Re%3AUpcoming%
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> > > > > > ahsan_mohammed2000
> > > <http://profiles.yahoo.com/ahsan_mohammed2000>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:13 pm (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Although the Chief Advisor and other members of the interim
> > > > > government
> > > > > > are trying to ensure through their speeches that the general
> > > > > election
> > > > > > will be held in December 2008 and power will be handed over
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > elected representatives of people, doubts and fears are
> > > spreading
> > > > > due to
> > > > > > some activities of the ruling quarter. I tried to analyse
> the
> > > > > possible
> > > > > > conspiracies and strategies of various players involved in
> > > > > influencing
> > > > > > Bangladesh politics in my article published in Daily Naya
> > > Diganta
> > > > > and is
> > > > > > available at the following link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/2008/10/13/fullnews.asp?
> > > > > News_ID=108371&s
> > > > > > ec=6
> > > > > > <http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/2008/10/13/fullnews.asp?
> > > > > News_ID=108371&
> > > > > > sec=6>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.sonarbangladesh.com/article.php?ID=336
> > > > > > <http://www.sonarbangladesh.com/article.php?ID=336>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will highly appreciate if you kindly share your views on
> this
> > > > > issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
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