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Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Re: [ALOCHONA] Fw: RE: Hasina,Moeen etc

Mr. Zoglul Husain...so, how does this work? This false outrage, pseudo-patriotism, and imaginary enemies who want to destroy Bangladesh - I mean, the voices in your head must be pretty active and cannot be subdued by medication. Your clinical insanity worries me. Of course, I also worry about the pathological stupidity of your comrades who are busy drumming up conspiracy theories with no basis in facts. Then again, for a reactionary like yourself, facts were never a problem. If facts don't exist, make them up, right? Isn't that how you people function? Say anything or do anything as long as the propaganda gets to the people! It's like a drugged up rabid monkey with a computer and internet connection, typing away every rubbish that comes to its mind. Sometimes I wonder, if you and your comrades have more loyalty to your party or to your country. From what I have been reading so far, I am convinced that your loyalty is to the madam and her two bastard sons, and not the country that you pretend to care about so much.
 
If I, we, people who don't have the baggage of party loyalty, can help institutionalize you and get you the help that you so desperately need, please don't hesitate to ask. We would be happy to organize a fundraiser, and make sure that only Pakistani rupees are collected for your treatment.
 
C

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Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:08:41 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fw: RE: Hasina,Moeen etc




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--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail. co.uk> wrote:
Agreed, Moeen U and three ministers must go.
 
But what about
    Sheikh Hasina, the defence minister and the prime minister? And what about
    Zillur Rahman, the president and the supreme commander of the armed forces (also it is the president who has the powers for general amnesty, not the prime minister)? And what about the whole lot, -- lock, stock and barrel? 
 
Even their ally Ershad, probably being frustrated as he could not become the president and probably because of his unlimited hunger for money, said, as reported in The Daily Amadershomoy - March 4, 2009, that the BAL would never come to power again without the help of the army and that, had election been held on 22 January 2007, then BNP would win.
 
Ershad however is never reliable. Since he assumed the power of CMLA (Chief Marshal Law Administrator) his words have been brushed off as CMLA (Change My Last Announcement) . But in this event his assessment is correct.
 
It is the US-Israel-India axis which engineered the violent ('logi-baitha' , blockades, etc.)
conflict between the political parties between 28 October 2006 and 11 January 2007 to cancel the election scheduled on 22 January 2007 (which the BNP would win) and bring in the military-controlled interim government, which over a period of two years demolished the BNP and partially demolished the BAL and created required conditions for bringing in a totally subservient puppet 'democratic' government. The evil Axis organised the rigging of the election of 29 December 2008 with the help of the present Election Commission and the civil- and military administration. And that is how we ended up with this government.
 
Our enemies have demolished the political parties. Now they have started demolishing the armed forces. They want to station Indian army in Bangladesh.
 
We should urgently campaign for the alliance of all patriotic forces of the whole spectrum of all shades of opinion and irrespective of whether they are civil or military.
 
To: bd_journalists@ yahoogroups. com
From: voice_bangladesh@ yahoo.com. au
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:48:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [bd_journalists] MBI Munshi and his Pakistan/ISI connection

I am with you Mr Bahar. Moin U must go - he is one of the greatest link for India no doubt about that. Pm using him as a media between two countries and execute all conspiracy - what a shame for the Bd Army/defence. All political parties should claim his resignation along with three other ministers strongly and repeatedly.

--- On Wed, 4/3/09, abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo. com> wrote:

From: abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [bd_journalists] MBI Munshi and his Pakistan/ISI connection
To: bd_journalists@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, 4 March, 2009, 1:43 AM

                                         Moin U must go!
 
"A Total intelligence failure !!"or something else?  It is Moin U to blame for the entire failure or sucess for eliminating the "undesirables" . AL will be better off without this controversial civil servant who claimed to have met the Prophet in his dreams but surprisingly failed to foresee this tragedy to unfold. Before it is too late Hasina should say goodby to this person. The US and Indian officials are for some strange reasons has been openly in contact with him. He seems to be the choosen one. He is still keeping the Indian horses. Before it is too late, political parties nationwide should make their demand:
 
Demand #1 the resignition of Moin U, the dangerous conspirator
This is to isolate the most dangerous enemy from the not so dangerous ones. 
 

 
From: abid bahar <abidbahar@Yahoo. com>
To: bd_journalists@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:13:25 AM
Subject: Re: [bd_journalists] MBI Munshi and his Pakistan/ISI connection

Shamim Chowdhury's language is very indecent. The Indian connection is becoming clearer everyday.
 
 A friend in a yahoo group wrote to us the following interesting piece about the BDR mutiny.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
 
Dear..,
 
Yes, all the BD folks are AL or BNP. Let us ask these questions from the professionals.
 
(BTW, in 1992, I went to BD without Green Card and had to stay in Dhaka for 6 month. I stayed in BDR with my nice. Manik knows it)
 
1. BDR campus in Pilkhana is a very small campus, it is not like cantonment. As soon as the mutiny started why the BDR HQ was not surrounded by the army. They needed PM's permission to start the operation, but the army/RAB could seal it off so that the rebel couldn't flee. They see western movie in Dhaka ? Don't they? One group do the sweet talking another get ready to storm.
 
2. Why air force didn't drop paratroopers?
 
3. AL has a lot of ex generals among its supporters and gen Ershad is with AL now. Why was a no-name AL leader Nanok was sent to negotiate? Was he known to BRD rank and file?
 
4. Listen bro, this kind of job can be done by only one country in the world, not America .
I have no proof; if I had I could make a lot of money writing books. Just thinks.
 
Israeli Mossad might advise RAW. Otherwise, how do you kill one general, two Brig. Generals and scores of colonels in broad daylight, rape their daughters and flee?
 
It is not just loss of 50 officers; it is a loss of national confidence. I mean some one can kill so many army officials and go away without being caught.  Just read Indian news papers regularly. Their reporters know everything before BD reporters do.
 
How many of you saw the movie Operation Entebbe?
 
It will take a long time to gain confidence in our defense forces. How it is going to protect our country when it can't protect itself?

 

 



From: M.B.I. Munshi <MBIMunshi@gmail. com>
To: bd_journalists@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:57:15 AM
Subject: [bd_journalists] MBI Munshi and his Pakistan/ISI connection

Mr. MBI Munshi, you are trying to make your connection with Pakistan Defense Forum very innocent one but it is not. You are not a general member of Pakistan Defense Forum. Pakistan Defiance Forum, which runs by ISI, puts your membership as SENIOR MEMBER. Your involvement and contribution been awarded with the title of a Brigadier Geeral. Why Mr. Munshi? What you have done so good to defend Pakistan defense and its intelligence unit ISI to award you with prestigious rank of Brigadier? 


I truly think your contribution on defending Pakistan is extraordinary (LA JAWAB). In less then two years with this forum from March 8th of 2007 your contributed Total Posts stands to 2,364 (TWO THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR), (MURHABA ZANAB) One can easily understand how much you care defending Pakistan and defaming its enemies which off course includes Bangladesh.. 


Your enlistment with Pakistan Defense will go into its second anniversary in SIX more days (March 8th of 2007 to March 8th of 2009). What will be your rank? Are they going to give you the rank of Major General or you will get double promotion and become Lieutenant General for your tireless contribution defend Pakistan defense?


MY REPLY -


I think I can now dispose of the absurdity of your claims. There are hundreds of Indian members of the Pakistan Defence Forum.. India has fought 4 wars with Pakistan but not one of these Indians is accused of being an ISI agent or a sympathizer of Pakistan .  Why are these Indian able to represent India on PDF but not a Bangladeshi represent his country on the forum? Many of these Indian members have posted in excess of 6000 posts and have achieved rank of Lt. Gen. on the forum simply on the basis of their posts. The same rules apply to me. I have posted in excess of 2000 posts so I am ranked as Brigadier. There is no favoritism or special consideration here.  I think it exceedingly unfair that Indians can freely participate in this forum and criticize both Pakistan and Bangladesh but a Bangladeshi is unable to defend his country on the forum but is instead criticized for representing his national interest there. I think this shows the narrowness and unsoundness of your allegations. 


As I have pointed out in my article `The BDR Mutiny – revenge for Padua and Boraibari" the attack on our soldiers in Pilkhana was an Indian operation and planned and executed by RAW. This is the issue that you are not facing but instead you are attacking me on frivolous and meaningless grounds to distract from intelligent discussion on the issues I have raised. The Indians have committed an atrocious and appalling act on Bangladesh and you still are able to defend them. This is a truly sad reflection on your integrity and state of mind.  


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