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Monday, December 3, 2007

[vinnomot] Re: [sahitya] Taslima's moral values and Badrul Islam's curse on my family!

Enayet,
 You are not reading what I wrote and gushing out like water from hose. First read what I wrote and then spend time. I explained the question of morality of sexuality and liberalism. My point was, one can deal with sexual morality better from scientific view point than religion. Tons of Swamijis, Hujurs, Mullahs, Babas have been convicted for sexual offense.
 
Currently there is much harder porn material available on net than what Taslima writes. If my morality would be inspired by those, my family will not see a second day and I explained why scientifically. However, there is a huge difference between eroticism and perverted sexuality-I support first and oppose counter productive sexuality. My personal morality on sexuality is highly governed by evolutionary science.
 
 
The reason religion still exists today is because science didn't try to explain spiritual needs of human beings. Right now it is happening. I explained why science didn't replace religion  in details in this article. I am sure efforts are being made to understand the need of religion in human life and civilization.
 
I have no problem with religion or religious people as long as critical and rational view on religion is maintained. I have wonderful devout Muslim friends from Iran who are excellent human beings.
Thanks
Biplab
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Biplab,

Did your read Taslima's writings?
Do you want your son read Taslima's saucy writings?
Do you want your daughter follow Taslima as a role
model?

If yes, then I applause thee!

I found Taslima's literature not only offensive, also
obtrusive for a constructive society. People like you
supporting Taslima acting as a villain for a
progressive society! You can build a sand-castle and
continue pursue your dream, but that dream will never
be a reality!

Whatever you believe, either an atheist or a believer,
it's one prerogative! I am not against your new fad of
'atheist' & 'secular' though I defer both!

Since Darwin's 'evolution hypothesis' - world has
thought to eradicate religion once for all. Even after
hundred years of Darwin's legacy, religion is still
alive!

I do not know your knowledge about 'atheism' or
'satanism' or 'secularism' - they are all different
label.

There is a reason why religion did not perish yet, and
parishioner still visits church - that's coming!

-- EOM

--- Dr Biplab Pal <biplabpal2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Islamic Mind and Taslima
> -Biplab Pal,
> 12/3/2007
>
>
>
> So finally Mr Badrul Islam whose actual name is Anis
> Ahamed, employee of a civil right center in USA,
> cursed my son and wife!
>
>
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/vinnomot/message/14033
> I am atheist-nor that I care for curse from an
> insane Islamic soul, but it presents me an
> opportunity to explain how a mind suffering from
> theist existentialism crisis resorts to such
> stupidity. Theist existentialism in this context
> means-- to him, Islam and his biological existence
> are not separate. I wrote to him a few days back
> that our biological religion is no different-we all
> want to raise good kids in good society. Perhaps, he
> didn't understand what I said.
>
> Point is-why this guy is against Taslima even when
> he works in a civil right department and Taslima is
> fighting for right of the women? Why instead of
> supporting Taslima's war for human right, his
> Islamic existence is forcing him to defend Islam ?
> We need to analyze that in depth.
> He is pointing at Taslima's lifestyle-Taslima
> wants to lead a life of fallen woman. And he thinks
> by supporting her, I am setting up a bad example to
> my son and to my wife and that they will be ruined
> because I am supporting an evil sexual morality when
> I am supporting Taslima! He also thinks, I have been
> admitted to USA for my Jehad against Islam ! He
> thinks everybody is like him---!!! Ok, I received
> permanent residency in USA in EB1 category (which
> has the highest priority for foreign nationals) as
> an outstanding researcher in Optical Technology.
> Civil right is not my profession but passion.
>
> Do I support Taslima's views on sexuality and
> family values? Not at all. I have written several
> articles to explain why we need strong family values
> from scientific angle.
>
>
>
http://www.vinnomot.com/test/editorial/biplab/Taniya.pdf
> http://www.vinnomot.com/BiplabPal/Kawan2.pdf
> http://www.vinnomot.com/BiplabPal/Bigganbad.pdf
>
> In the past, I was in debate with my good atheist
> friend Avijit Roy on the issue of divorce—I have
> shown from research in sociology why divorce is
> unwanted if the family has kids. And I strongly
> pursue that value in my own family life.
>
> But still I will be the first one to protect
> Taslima from Muslim goons even if she writes for
> fallen women. A religion must be reformed. A society
> must be criticized without fear. The reason, America
> and West are doing far better—and that their moral
> standards are far better—and that their social
> organization is superior-is all because they allow
> criticism of all kinds. If I don't like her, let
> criticize her through writing. Reasons and logics
> are far stronger than swords and bombs of the goons.
>
> Will our women be inspired for adultery from her
> example?
> Will our girls be inspired to be fallen woman from
> her writing?
>
> This question needs very deep critical analysis.
> Our core existence is sexual-that is at the heart of
> our biological existence. If one can not handle
> his/her sexuality properly he/she will be ruined-and
> unproductive for the society. The reason, I will not
> be involved in adulterous behavior is not because I
> have religious values. I have none. Neither do I
> think there should be any punishment for adultery.
> But I will not do that for the simple reason—because
> as a biological existence, my first duty is to raise
> my kids as good citizen. If I am involved in
> adultery, a family conflict will evolve and that
> will ruin my kid's life-my most precious wealth. Not
> that I am not tempted for other women and sexual
> pleasure-I am very much inclined for that but still
> I will not do that because kids are far more higher
> priority for the biological existence of my genetic
> survival. It does not need any religion of ancient
> time with barbaric rules to stop adulterous
> behavior-a simple
> scientific understanding of objective of our life
> will do much better job.
>
> Best of luck for Badirul's family-although he cursed
> my son, I will bless his son since as a religious
> person he believes in blessings and curse. But more
> importantly, only a person of logic, honesty and
> reason can be successful on the earth. People with
> religious conviction are far less successful
> financially and as achiever. Once I asked my dad,
> what is that I have ever inherited from him? He
> coldly replied—if I can live a life of honest man, I
> did inherit from him or else, I inherited nothing. I
> guess, I will pass the same message to my son from
> his grandfather.
>
>
>
>

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