My Dear Friend Shafiq
Well I thought we were passionately fighting but if you think we were
only bickering then I better withdraw fast before you step up a
gear : )
I am a democrat. I can think of no iconic dictator, civilian or
military, anywhere in the world, who I think we should follow. Anyone
believing that the military should lead a nation on principle is
basically a fascist. I don't want Moeen to be in power longer than
you do.
Yes, as the CTG has taken on the duty of political reform we can
blame it for all failures in this area. I can too. But the reason I
stand my ground is that many people keep quiet about AL and BNP while
blaming the CTG only. Don't you think AL and BNP are also responsible
for the failure to reform? You might say they had no scope to reform
because of the emergency – but if there was no emergency the issue of
reform would not even be on the table.
There are two groups of people attacking the CTG today.
One group is open minded and looking for positive change. This group
attacks the CTG because of its failure to fulfill its promises. I
believe now that you are in this group – and I do respect this group.
This group seeks to serve the nation and is more than entitled to be
frustrated.
The second group is closed minded and looking for a return to the
past. This group attacks the CTG because it threatens political
traditions and the political status quo prior to the Emergency. I
have no respect for this group because it serves itself – not the
nation.
I agree with you that the CTG has failed the millions if the Middle
East. I honestly wish it had done a lot more. On the other hand it is
not the CTG that has built up this situation – it is AL and BNP. Here
in Kuwait the CTG has actually fought hard for basic rights for
labourers – more than AL and BNP ever have. The CTG has sought a
minimum monthly wage of KD 50, mandatory health checks, mandatory air
fares etc. Want to bet what will happen when AL and BNP return?
Please don't discard me just because I don't go the bazaar and buy
rice. The honest common man has always suffered, more or less. It's
February and I've already spent 3 weeks in Dhaka. I assure you I have
ample experience of AL and BNP MPs : )
Anyway. I join you in wishing that the honour of democracy in
Bangladesh is restored by the return of Moeen to the barracks as soon
as possible. If you know of suitable replacements for Fakhruddin,
Moeen and the Advisers please name them. I'm open to change.
Any wishes for the high command of AL and BNP? Apart from wishes of
good health : )
May you soon one day effortlessly convince me to chant the name of an
intelligent PM candidate from BNP or AL. InshAllah! InshAllah!
InshAllah!
Take care my friend.
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "shafiq013" <shafiq013@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mr. Ejazur
>
> We have been bickering about this subject for long and I think it is
> time to close it.
>
> I know you felt hurt with my last posting. It was very intentional
on
> my part. I wanted to tell how it feels when you try to castigate
people
> for their opinions. Go back to your postings and see how you have
> rebuked people for words they have not even uttered. I am reading
your
> postings for long and I will only advise you to respect the
opinions of
> others and don't try to impose your opinions on other. Gai'r
> Zoor will not work. Win people with your argument. Though
intentional, I
> am sorry for hurting your feelings.
>
> Coming back to the topic, you have said that "a reformed AL without
> Hasina or reformed BNP without Khaleda should form the next
> government". May I ask you how many reforms in AL and BNP have been
> made in the last 14 months or so? There are even no signs of it.
With
> the status quo lingering, do you suggest the present situation to
> prevail for indefinite time. You asked me when I want elections in
the
> country. I have a counter question. When you want elections?
>
> If I analyze all the postings in this group, I find that the handful
> supporters of this CTG don't even live in the country. Because,
they
> cannot appreciate the ground reality. KOTO DHANAY KOTO CHAIL, they
> don't realize.
>
> Hardly I have noticed any posting by anybody living in Bangladesh
and be
> a "blind" supporter of the present CTG. Remember; more than 90%
> people supported the CTG when it took power in Jan. 2007. Did you
ever
> ponder why the popularity of this Government has eroded away so
fast?
> Everything depends on economics. There are dearths of jobs for
> young's (this situation has gone worse from bad). There is no
> improvement in law and order situation, economy is sluggish. Above
> everything, the price of common commodities is shooting up. There
is no
> limit to it. I cannot say much but it doesn't give a very good taste
> when you or people like you want to continue with the present
situation.
>
> Every sensible citizen of Bangladesh know the role of AL and BNP in
> creating the present situation. We don't want to go back there. We
> even don't want to think and talk about it. We are hopeful about the
> present and we are optimistic about our future. But in reality is
it so?
> Tell me how many times the CTG and Election Commission have tried to
> assure about election roadmap. Even they also realize that people
> don't trust them anymore.
>
> For the sake of argument only, you have mentioned about more than
a
> million Bangladeshi workers working in the Middle East. You, being
one
> of them. I respect them for their contribution to the national
economy.
> I know most of them are under-paid. I also know that they were
cheated
> by manpower agents –who have political blessings. But may I know
> what is happening in Saudi Arabia today? Why the present CTG is mum
when
> about 2 million poor workers are being harassed for stupidity of
handful
> of people. Don't you believe that CTG has a role to play here?
>
> You posed a question to me about the right path. My opinion is very
> clear and very loud. If this CTG or for that matter any future
> Government cannot manage the show, cannot fulfill people's
> aspirations, they should leave power immediately. There is no second
> thought and no second choice. We are a poor nation. For heaven sake
> don't add to our miseries.
>
> In the end I will say, to be ambitious is good but to be over
ambitious
> is dangerous. We have seen enough of Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, General
Zia
> and General Irshad. Enough is enough Gen.Moin. For Heaven sake,
spare
> us. Don't punish us, the Bangladeshi nation, for the follies of the
> political parties. Please go back to your barracks.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> SHAFIQ AHMAD
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Shafiq
> >
> > I have said a reformed AL without Hasina or reformed BNP without
> > Khaleda should form the next government. I have said that Jamaat
must
> > reform, Nizami etc should be in jail and that I don't want a
Jamaati
> > government. But still you say I am a looting, killing, raping
> > Jamaati. I know I am reactionary at times, but boy – you are no
> less!
> >
> > I have a well balanced view of the CTG and I am happy to discuss
all
> > its flaws and failings - if only intelligent people like you
would at
> > least be truthful about BNP and AL then your criticisms of CTG
could
> > all be accepted with an open heart.
> >
> > I maybe 100% wrong in my opinion. But there are no contradictions
in
> my arguments.
> >
> > I never said the CTG succeeded in dealing with student politics.
Give
> > it another 4 years and maybe it will : ) At least the CTG policy
> > stopped Chatra League etc fighting. When this policy changed the
> > Chatra League etc started fighting again. Why don't you blame AL
for
> > Chatra League, BNP for Chatra Dal or Jamaat for Shibbir – for a
> > change? Is it difficult?
> >
> > There is corruption in the Army but the trend is in the right
> > direction. Unless you think there are MORE instances of corruption
> > now than during AL and BNP governments. Unless you think AL and
BNP
> > did MORE to fight against corruption than the CTG.
> >
> > Come now – I know personal attacks are beneath you. Why attack me
> > personally when you never personally attack corrupt
politicians : )
> >
> > Don't worry about whether I am doing justice to my job. More than
a
> > million of our countrymen are working 14 hours a day for slave
wages
> > in the Middle East after being cheated by manpower agents – who
> all
> > have protection from AL and BNP. They are all doing more than
justice
> > to their jobs. Worry about them.
> >
> > Idiom shmidiom. I know the point you were making about the dog and
> > his day. I think you also know the point I was making about the
dog
> > and her day : )
> >
> > What difference does it make if I call it a Jamaati government or
a
> > BNP government – you still think I am a Pakistani Jamaati!
> >
> > I haven't disowned anyone. Party loyalty doesn't mean that you
keep
> > quiet about injustice in your party, that you never criticize your
> > leader, that you believe in dynastic politics, that you attack
> > everyone else and turn a blind eye to your own party's faults.
What
> > is happening now is the best thing that ever happened to BNP!
> >
> > Are you saying the CTG is a paper tiger?
> >
> > There is a natural uncertainty and confusion about any CTG. But
there
> > are battalions of AL and BNP and Jamaat activists deliberately
trying
> > to increase the level of uncertainty and confusion in the country
> –
> > for their own political advantage.
> >
> > Where you and I really differ is that:
> >
> > I can accept temporary uncertainty and confusion if we get a
reformed
> > AL and BNP, without Hasina and Khaleda and with war criminals
> > excluded from elections. The CTG may be failing to achieve this
but a
> > good many decent people think it is at least trying.
> >
> > However you on the other hand prefer the certainty and clarity of
an
> > unreformed AL or unreformed BNP in government, with Hasina or
Khaleda
> > as PM and with war criminals included in the election.
> >
> > There are no easy choices - only hard choices. It's a question of
> > which hard choice you make. You'll quote the law today and if
Hasina
> > or Khaleda come back you'll forget about the law. So please don't
get
> > all sanctimonious about the law.
> >
> > By the way. What is the right path? Do you want an election next
> > Wednesday? And then what? Which party do you think I should vote
for?
> >
> > Still regards : )
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "shafiq013" shafiq013@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > >
> > > Your outburst was expected. People who don't have any reasoning,
> > > people who don't listen to arguments, reacts exactly the same
way.
> > > Like an old gramophone record, you are harping the same song
again
> > and
> > > again even without knowing the meaning of it. "This CTG is the
best.
> > > AL and BNP are the worst". Just like your predecessors, when
> > > Pakistani Army was looting, killing and raping, Jamaat was
harping;
> > > Pakistan has been saved, Pakistan has been saved.
> > >
> > > As in the past and as it is usual, you posting is full of
> > > contradictions. You praise CTG for managing student politics in
one
> > > breath and in the second breath you are critiquing Chatra Dal
and
> > Chatra
> > > League for fighting with each other when the Army moved out of
> > campus.
> > > Then how CTG managed the student politics? You say about the
> > corruption
> > > in the Army but again say that the trend is in the right
> > directions. You
> > > must be gem of a man. I will like to salute you again and again.
> > >
> > > You may consider yourself a very smart, a very complex
personality
> > but
> > > your school of thought is very obvious. Anybody can judge it
from
> > your
> > > writings. You write a lot and sometimes I really wonder how you
can
> > > manage the time to do it. Hope you are working and doing
justice to
> > your
> > > job.
> > >
> > > "Every dog has his day" is an idiom in English language. (Did I
> > > say CTG is a dog and having its day). It is applicable to
everybody
> > > including you and me. You are inviting me for a fight. I decline
> > your
> > > offer. I fight with arguments and not with words. You and I are
not
> > at
> > > the same level.
> > >
> > > You claim that you know everything happening in Bangladesh. Do
you
> > know
> > > what is the price of one kg. of coarse rice, what is price of
one
> > kg. of
> > > pulse and one kg. of edible oil? I don't believe you know it.
> > > Otherwise, you would have been in your senses.
> > >
> > > In your opinion, the coalition Government from 2001 to 206 was
> > still a
> > > BNP Government. Very typical, you disown BNP because BNP is in
> > trouble
> > > now. Otherwise you were ready to run election in January 2007
again
> > as
> > > partner of BNP.
> > >
> > > It seems that you don't believe in the rule of law. Even in
jungle
> > > there is a law. If you don't believe in the rule of law, go and
> > > shoot Hasina and Khalida. You don't have that many guts. You
are a
> > > paper tiger only.
> > >
> > > As long as the CTG is there, there will be uncertainty and
> > confusion.
> > > Simple reason is because CTG is an interim arrangement. Blind
> > supporter
> > > of CTG! Why you want uncertainty and confusion in the country?
What
> > are
> > > your motives? Tell me honestly, are you from this land? Or you
are
> > still
> > > dreaming that we will go back to pre-1970 era.
> > >
> > > Again, pray that ALLAH show you the right path.
> > >
> > > SHAFIQ AHMAD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Alochok Shafiq
> > > >
> > > > Well obviously you have no idea about my school of thought.
> > > >
> > > > You may highlight all the problems as much as you want – that
> > > doesn't
> > > > change the fact the CTG is better on these particular issues
than
> > all
> > > > the previous governments. This is a summary position. Feel
free to
> > > > write a very long essay on student politics during Hasina and
> > > > Khaleda's governments…
> > > >
> > > > I can compare anything. Go ahead – name an issue. I'm not
> scared
> > > of
> > > > saying the CTG is wrong or mistaken on this or that. I'm not a
> > blind
> > > > AL or BNP or Jamaat supporter.
> > > >
> > > > And don't hide behind that pathetic excuse that I live abroad
and
> > you
> > > > live in Desh so automatically you know more than me. It's
> > laughable.
> > > > Tell me something I don't know first.
> > > >
> > > > So Chatra League and/or Chatra Dal torched an Army car. So
what?
> > The
> > > > Army moves off campus and the student groups have already
started
> > > > fighting between themselves. Ha! Pathetic!
> > > >
> > > > The cost of bribes has gone up because the risks have gone up
too.
> > > > Natural.
> > > >
> > > > The question is not whether this CTG is flawed because we
know it
> > is.
> > > > There are Army men buying flats in Gulshan now. I say this
> > freely. So
> > > > don't think you can win the argument by yelling corruption
now.
> > There
> > > > is corruption. But the trend overall is in the right
direction.
> > The
> > > > question is did you complain about corruption when the nethris
> > were
> > > > in power?
> > > >
> > > > The next elected, value based government is welcome to throw
Moeen
> > > > and Fakhruddin in jail if they were corrupt. Every CTG
supporter
> > will
> > > > say the same. AL and BNP activists write 1000s of words late
into
> > the
> > > night about Moeen's bank loan to buy a home – but they won't
> spend a
> > > second writing about their own corrupt MPs and Ministers.
Disgusting
> > > > hypocrisy!
> > > >
> > > > I didn't mention Jamaat because in my opinion the coalition
was
> > still
> > > > a BNP government not a Jamaat government. Doesn't make any
> > difference
> > > > anyway because you will think I am Jamaati no matter what I
> > say : )
> > > > I want either a reformed AL without Hasina, or a reformed BNP
> > without
> > > > Khaleda, or even a new party, to form the next government. I
don't
> > > > want a Jamaat government!
> > > >
> > > > Jamaat's strength coming from the weakness of AL and BNP. This
> > > > statement means Hasina and Khaleda make AL and BNP weak.
Jamaat
> > > > doesn't fear Hasina or Khaleda. If you want to beat Jamaat you
> > have
> > > > to reform AL and BNP and make them much, much, stronger.
> > > >
> > > > Haireh bhai! Please don't preach to me about Allah! Preach to
> > Hasina
> > > > and Khaleda first!
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to write an essay about Suranjit Sen Gupta' s
ideology
> > and
> > > > why you support him. What makes you proud that he is
Bangladeshi
> > > > politician? Caricature is the lowest form of insult. Don't
worry -
> > > > I'll come up with better ways.
> > > >
> > > > You say Allah's will put Hasina and Khaleda in jail. Then you
say
> > the
> > > > CTG is a dog having its day.
> > > >
> > > > If it's Allah's will that the two should be in jail then it is
> > > > Allah's will that was carried out by the CTG. Perhaps the CTG
is
> > the
> > > > instrument of Allah? I don't know – I'm just having childish
> fun.
> > > >
> > > > Lets fight properly…
> > > >
> > > > Every dog has its day. This CTG is a dog and it is having its
day.
> > > > I too am a dog and I am having my day.
> > > >
> > > > That's quite okay as long as ..
> > > >
> > > > Hasina is a dog who has had her day as PM and
> > > > Khaleda is a dog who has had her day as PM.
> > > >
> > > > I have amply defined my version of the right path. I'm
prepared
> > for
> > > > short term pain for long term gain. What is your definition
of the
> > > > right path?
> > > >
> > > > Is it that everything should be done by the law? Sorry. Those
who
> > are
> > > > supposed to create the law, interpret the law, employ the law
and
> > > > enforce the law are bought and sold cheaply everyday.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > >
> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > Kuwait
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "shafiq013" shafiq013@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your posting as now I understand completely your
> > school
> > > > of
> > > > > thought. When you are comparing an era with another you
compare
> > in
> > > > > totality. However, as you are comparing only student
politics,
> > > > political
> > > > > reform and anti-corruption drives, should I remind you that
> > never
> > > > in the
> > > > > past, students have torched an Army Vehicle, no political
party
> > has
> > > > done
> > > > > any reforms in themselves as of today. I will not talk much
> > about
> > > > > anti-corruption drives as you don't live in Bangladesh and
will
> > not
> > > > > appreciate but a common man still have to bribe to get any
job
> > done
> > > > in
> > > > > public sector. Only the price of it has doubled or in some
> > cases has
> > > > > tripled. If by anti corruption you mean the kickback paid to
> > > > Government
> > > > > officials and men in the Government, you will know about it
when
> > > > this
> > > > > Government will finally relinquish power. No member of CTG
and
> > top
> > > > brass
> > > > > of Army have submitted their wealth statement as yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > My memory seems to be very short but I still remember that
there
> > > > was a 4
> > > > > party's coalition in power in Bangladesh from 2001-2006.
Jamaat
> > was
> > > > > a partner of that coalition.
> > > > >
> > > > > You stated that that the power of CTG is in the hands of
> > Fakhruddin
> > > > AND
> > > > > Moeen U Ahmed. May we know who is leading? There cannot be
two
> > > > kings in
> > > > > one kingdom. What in actual it is? Is it a Military backed
> > Civilian
> > > > > Government or a Civilian backed Military Government? On what
> > > > capacity
> > > > > Gen. Moeen is touring India now, as head of Army or head of
> > state or
> > > > > both? I know that you don't have a reply for that. As it
very
> > usual,
> > > > > you will put the blame on BNP or AL. What more can be
expected.
> > > > >
> > > > > On one point I totally agree with you. You very rightly said
> > that
> > > > > Jamaat's strength comes from the weakness of AL and BNP. As
can
> > be
> > > > > inferred from your writing in the past also, you are over-
> > joyous as
> > > > > Khalida and Hasina are in jail. Supposedly, not because they
> > have
> > > > > committed crimes but because it will weaken AL and BNP and
will
> > > > > consequently benefit Jamaat. I salute fertility of your
brain.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you believe in ALLAH (I believe you do), your RIZK
(rations)
> > > > comes
> > > > > from HIM. It was HIS will that these two top notch ladies
will
> > spend
> > > > > their Eids in jail. There is nothing funny about it. Say
> > ISTIGHFAR
> > > > many
> > > > > times a day. Try to learn lesson from it. Every dog has his
day.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really don't understand why Suranjit Sen Gupta was
dragged in
> > this
> > > > > argument. You have no comments on his ideology but have
drawn a
> > very
> > > > > comical picture of him. I don't claim to be a perfect Muslim
> > but as
> > > > > a fellow Muslim I advise you, don't make fun of the looks
of a
> > man
> > > > > (he may be Muslim or Non-muslim). It is un-islamic. And
being a
> > > > > supporter of Jamaat, you know Islam more than me. (At least
the
> > > > Jamaatis
> > > > > claim that).
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not an Economist and can not claim like you that the
> > manpower
> > > > and
> > > > > garment sectors both benefit from a weakening Taka. I can
only
> > see
> > > > and
> > > > > say that Indian Economy is booming. Their GDP is high. For
your
> > > > > information only, Indian Rupee is revaluing and not
devaluing
> > like
> > > > > Bangladeshi taka. I don't have any figure of garment sector
but
> > for
> > > > > sure Indian manpower sector is much larger than Bangladesh.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, I pray to ALLAH to show you the right path.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Shafiq Ahmad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Alochok Shafiq
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The comparison between the CTG and previous governmnets
was
> > on the
> > > > > issues of student politics, political reform and anti
corruption
> > > > drives.
> > > > > The CTG wins on these issues. You didn't address these
issues.
> > > > That's
> > > > > okay – it traditional.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The comparison excluded Jamaat because Jamaat never ran
any
> > > > > > government. I don't have the common stupidity of railing
> > against
> > > > > > Jamaat while my own party employs violent criminals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The power of CTG is in the hands of Fakhruddin AND Moeen U
> > Ahmed.
> > > > Its
> > > > > a clear partnership and trying to make a drama out of this
fact
> > is a
> > > > > waste of time. It is the logical conclusion of the
activities of
> > > > idiots
> > > > > in AL and BNP. It's okay. Even idiots die one day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Moeen U Ahmed rightly promoted himself to push the CTG's
> > agenda.
> > > > You
> > > > > > don't know how you started the fire but you sure can
> > criticize the
> > > > > > fire brigade. It's okay. It's traditional.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Islam needs to find the modernity buried within itself.
> > Political
> > > > > > Islam will be perhaps the greatest political challenge of
the
> > 21st
> > > > > > Century. Jamaat is only one face of political Islam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jamaat's strength comes from the weakness of AL and BNP.
IT
> > IS THE
> > > > > > FAILURE OF CENTRE POLITICS THAT DRIVES PEOPLE TO EXTREMES.
> > Jamaat
> > > > > > must address the issues that make it so controversial and
> > > > divisive. I
> > > > > > don't care if Nizami etc go to jail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The manpower and garment sectors both benefit from a
weakening
> > > > Taka.
> > > > > > Remittances are at record levels. However these points are
> > > > > > irrelevant – the real problem is that the Taka has ALWAYS
> > > > > weakened.
> > > > > > This is partly intentional within monetary policy and
partly
> > > > > > unintentional within the fundamental structural problems
of
> > the
> > > > > > economy. No doubt you believe Hasina can fix the exchange
rate
> > > > just
> > > > > > like she can fix food prices. It's okay to expect witches
to
> > have
> > > > > > magic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I never talk about price hikes because I don't need to –
> > > everybody
> > > > > > else is, even supporters of the CTG. It is the singular
> > failure of
> > > > > > the CTG and, even though prices have risen worldwide, it
> > would be
> > > > > > crass for anyone to argue that the CTG has done a good
job in
> > this
> > > > > > area. Even if price rises are inevitable much more must be
> > done to
> > > > > > help our poor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The truth was bitter when I realized just how rubbish is
the
> > > > > > leadership of AL and BNP. A fine nation, with so much
talent
> > and
> > > > so
> > > > > > many challenges, is blighted by politicians like Hasina
and
> > > > Khaleda.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have the seen light. And it is shining through the
tunnel
> > being
> > > > > > smashed through the mountain of cow dung built up by AL
and
> > BNP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The light will not be found near the likes of Suranjit Sen
> > Gupta,
> > > > > > sitting cross legged on a stool, grinning like a stupid
> > clown, his
> > > > > > cracked yellow teeth falling out, nostrils flared like a
bull
> > in
> > > > > > heat, rubbing his dry rotting foot and rocking back and
> forth…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A typical Bangladeshi rajnoithic netha… No wonder the
> British
> > > just
> > > > > > walked into Bengal …
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You want me to face the bitter truth?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hasina and Khaleda spent two consecutive Eids in jail
with two
> > > > bowls
> > > > > > of shamai. And the country did not burn even a little.
Not a
> > > > > > Bangladeshi, dead or alive, thought it was possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is my beautiful truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And it will be the bitter truth of many when they realize
they
> > > > have to
> > > > > open their mouths to taste.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "shafiq013" shafiq013@
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Mr.Ejazur
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like it. You have made present CTG better than all
other
> > > > parties
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > were in the power in Bangladesh in the past. Well done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why you forgot to mention about Jamaat? Was it
intentional
> > or
> > > > > > > unintentional? Does not it indicate your political
> > philosphy?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And which CTG you are talking about? Do you or anybody
else
> > can
> > > > > > define
> > > > > > > who is running the show in Bangladesh at present? Is it
the
> > > > > > President
> > > > > > > who is supposed to have the maximum power when there is
a
> > > > caretaker
> > > > > > > government?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or it is Fakharuddin who seems to be talking on gun-
point?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or in the last but not the least it is Moeen U Ahmed?
The
> > first
> > > > > > thing he
> > > > > > > did after coming to power was to promote himself to a
> > General.
> > > > This
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > only one example and only in one year. As you and many
> > Jamaati
> > > > > > want, let
> > > > > > > him be in power for only one year. You believe it or
not you
> > > > will
> > > > > > get a
> > > > > > > big list.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, you must be beneficiary of this CTG.
Afterall
> > when
> > > > this
> > > > > > CTG
> > > > > > > came to power, One Kuwait Dinar was Taka 220. Now a
Kuwaiti
> > > > Dinar is
> > > > > > > almost Taka 250. Economy of Bangladesh is totally
ruined,
> > there
> > > > is
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > control on the price of common commodities, law and
order
> > > > situation
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > bad still you are harping the song. "This CTG is the
best."
> > I
> > > > never
> > > > > > > heard any Jamaati critical of this CTG. Even they never
> > talked
> > > > about
> > > > > > > price hikes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Truth is bitter but try to face it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can only pray that may ALLAH lead you to the right
path.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shafiq Ahmad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
<ezajur.rahman@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear Alochok Mahathir
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Greetings!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You ask the question in every message :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is this CTG better than Ershad in case of political
party
> > > > reform
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > anti corruption drive and dealings with teachers and
> > > > Students ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Has no one yet answered you?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is an answer -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This CTG is better than Ershad AND Hasina AND Khaleda
in
> > case
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > political party reform and anti corruption drive and
> > dealings
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > teachers and students. Perhaps even better than Zia
and
> > Mujib.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Perhaps you can illustrate the great achievements of
> > Mujib,
> > > > Zia,
> > > > > > > > Ershad, Hasina and Khaleda in student politics, party
> > reform
> > > > and
> > > > > > anti
> > > > > > > > corruption drives? We certainly can see the CTG is
> > trying -
> > > > > > whatever
> > > > > > > > the result. I didn't see anyone else trying? Did you?
Who?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I wasn't around during the golden age of Mujib but I
now
> > > > enough.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think theres a song by Hemant Mukherjee or someone
that
> > > > applies
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > die hard Hasina and Khaleda fans.. the chorus goes
> > something
> > > > > > like ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ''Ma! Oh goh Ma!''
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mahathir of bd
> > > > > > > > wouldbemahathirofbd@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > http://www.somewhereinblog.net/blog/radachurablog/28774477
> > > > > > > > ভারত
সফরে
> > > > > > > > জেনারেল
> > > > > > > > মইন
> > > > > > > > প্রকৃতই
> > > > যা
> > > > > > > > অর্জন
> > > > করতে
> > > > > > > > পারেন।
২৭
> > > > > > > > শে
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
ফেব্রুয়ারি
> > > > > > > > , ২০০৮
> > সকাল
> > > > > > > > ১০:১৬
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > জেনারেল
> > > > > > > > মইনের
> > > > ভারত
> > > > > > > > সফরের
> > > > > > > >
উদ্দেশ্য
> > > > > > > > বা
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
লক্ষবস্তু
> > > > > > > > কী তা
আমরা
> > > > > > > > কেউই
> > > > > > > > জানিনা।
> > > > > > > > তবে
> > > > > > > >
সত্যিকার
> > > > > > > > অর্থে
> > > > তিনি
> > > > > > > > যা
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
ভারতীয়দের
> > > > > > > > কাছ থেকে
> > > > > > > > অর্জন
> > > > করতে
> > > > > > > > পারেন বা
> > > > > > > > শিখতে
> > > > > > > > পারেন তা
> > > > > > > > হলো
> > > > কীভাবে
> > > > > > > > > একটি
> > > > > > > > পেশাদার
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > গড়ে তুলা
> > > > > > > > যায়। এ
> > > > > > > > বিষয়ে
কোন
> > > > > > > > সন্দেহ
> > > > নাই
> > > > > > > > যে
আমাদের
> > > > > > > > প্রতি
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
ভারতীয়দের
> > > > > > > > আচরণ
নিয়ে
> > > > > > > > অনেকেরই
> > > > > > > > মধ্যেই
> > > > > > > > একটা
> > > > > > > > তিক্ততা
> > > > > > > > আছে।
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
এতদ্সত্ত্ব
> > > > > > > > েও
ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > র
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
পেশাদারীত্
> > > > > > > > ব এবং
> > > > অন্তত
> > > > > > > > নিজদেশ
> > > > এবং
> > > > > > > >
নিজদেশের
> > > > > > > > মানুষের
> > > > > > > > প্রতি
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
কমিটমেন্ট
> > > > > > > > নিয়ে মনে
> > > > হয়
> > > > > > > > কোন
> > > > সন্দেহ
> > > > > > > > নেই।
> > > > দীর্ঘ
> > > > > > > > ষাট
> > > > বৎসরের
> > > > > > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবহিনীর
> > > > > > > > ইতিহাস,
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
কার্যারলী
> > > > > > > > তাই
> > > > প্রমাণ
> > > > > > > > করে।
> > > > > > > > > এই
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
দীর্ঘসময়ে
> > > > > > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > কোন
> > > > প্রকার
> > > > > > > >
রাজনৈতিক
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
কর্মকান্ডে
> > > > > > > > প্রবেশ
> > > > > > > > করেনি
> > > > > > > > কিংবা
> > > > > > > > রাজনীতি
> > > > > > > > নিয়ে
মাথা
> > > > > > > >
ঘামায়নি।
> > > > > > > > কোন
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
সেনপ্রধান
> > > > > > > > টিভিতে
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সাক্ষাৎকার
> > > > > > > > দিয়ে
> > > > দেশের
> > > > > > > > সংবিধান
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
পরিবর্তনের
> > > > > > > > কথা
> > > > > > > > বলেননি।
> > > > > > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > >
বিসামরিক
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
প্রশাসনেও
> > > > > > > > নাক
> > > > > > > > গলায়না।
।
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ভারতের
> > > > ষাট
> > > > > > > > বৎসরের
> > > > > > > > ইতিহাসে
> > > > > > > > কোন
> > > > > > > >
সেনানায়ক (
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
অবসরপ্রাপ্
> > > > > > > > তরাও)
> > > > সরকার
> > > > > > > > প্রধান
> > > > > > > > কিংবা
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
রাষ্টপ্রধা
> > > > > > > > ন হননি
> > > > > > > > কিংবা
> > > > > > > > হওয়ার
> > > > > > > > চেষ্টা
> > > > > > > > করেননি।
> > > > > > > > এমনকি
> > > > > > > > বর্তমান
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
ক্যাবিনেট
> > > > > > > > কিংবা
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
অঙ্গরাজ্যে
> > > > > > > > র
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
মুখ্যমন্ত্
> > > > > > > > রীর পদেও
> > > > > > > > একজন
> > > > > > > >
সেনানায়ক
> > > > > > > > খুঁজে
> > > > > > > > পাওয়া
> > > > > > > > কষ্টকর
> > > > > > > > হবে।
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
এক্ষেত্রে
> > > > > > > > ১৯৭১
> > > > > > > > পরবর্তী
> > > > > > > > একটা
> > > > > > > > ঘটনাকে
> > > > > > > > সুন্দর
> > > > > > > > উদাহরণ
> > > > > > > > হিসেবে
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
প্রসঙ্গক্র
> > > > > > > > মে বলা
> > > > যেতে
> > > > > > > > পারে।
> > > > ১৯৭১
> > > > > > > > > সালে
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
বাংলাদেশের
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
স্বাধীনতা
> > > > > > > > যুদ্ধের
> > > > > > > > সময়ে
> > > > > > > > ভারতের
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাপ্রধান
> > > > > > > > ছিলেন
> > > > > > > > জেনারেল
> > > > > > > > স্যাম
> > > > > > > > মানেকশ।
> > > > > > > > যুদ্ধে
> > > > > > > > জয়ের
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
ফলশ্রুতিতে
> > > > > > > > তিনি
> > > > > > > > জেনারেল
> > > > > > > > থেকে
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
ফিল্ডমার্শ
> > > > > > > > াল উপাধি
> > > > > > > > পান এবং
সে
> > > > > > > > > সময়ে
> > > > > > > > ভারতের
> > > > > > > > সবচেয়ে
> > > > > > > > জনপ্রিয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
ব্যক্তিত্ব
> > > > > > > > ে পরিণত
> > > > হন।
> > > > > > > > এই
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
জনপ্রিয়তার
> > > > > > > > কারণে
> > > > তিনি
> > > > > > > > একবার
> > > > গর্ব
> > > > > > > > করে
> > > > > > > >
বলেছিলেন
> > > > > > > > যে, আমি
> > > > > > > > এতোটাই
> > > > > > > > জনপ্রিয়
> > > > > > > > যদি আমি
> > > > > > > > দেশের
> > > > > > > > সর্বময়
> > > > > > > > ক্ষমতা
> > > > > > > > নিয়েও
নেই
> > > > > > > > তবে
> > > > > > > > > জনগণ তা
> > > > > > > > মেনে
> > > > নেবে।
> > > > > > > > এ
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
বক্তব্যের
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
পরিপ্রেক্ষ
> > > > > > > > িতে তিনি
> > > > > > > > দেশের
> > > > জনগণ
> > > > > > > > ও তার
> > > > > > > > সহকর্মী
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
জেনারেলদের
> > > > > > > > দ্বারা
> > > > > > > > এতোটাই
> > > > > > > >
সমালোচিত
> > > > > > > >
হয়েছিলেন
> > > > > > > > যে বছর
> > > > > > > > তিনেক
আগে
> > > > > > > > মৃতু্র
আগ
> > > > > > > > পর্যন্ত
> > > > > > > > তিনি
> > > > > > > > > কোনদিন
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
উচ্চবাচ্য
> > > > > > > > করেন নি।
> > > > > > > > অনেকটা
> > > > > > > > নীরবেই
> > > > > > > > প্রথিবী
> > > > > > > > থেকে চলে
> > > > > > > > যেতে
> > > > > > > > হয়েছিলো
> > > > > > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > র
> > > > ইতিহাসের
> > > > > > > > অন্যতম
> > > > সফল
> > > > > > > > এ
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সমরনায়ককে।
> > > > > > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
সেনবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > তাই
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
প্রকৃতঅর্থ
> > > > > > > > েই
> > > > > > > > > একটি
> > > > > > > > পেশাদার
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > র রোল
> > > > মডেল।
> > > > > > > >
সীমান্তে
> > > > > > > > দেশের
> > > > জন্য
> > > > > > > > যুদ্ধ
করে
> > > > > > > > জীবনদান
> > > > > > > > করাটাই
> > > > > > > > তারা
> > > > তাদের
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
সার্ভিসের
> > > > > > > > একমাত্র
> > > > > > > > কাজ বলে
> > > > মনে
> > > > > > > > করে।
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > আমার মনে
> > > > > > হয়
> > > > > > > > আমাদের
> > > > > > > >
সন্মানীত
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাপ্রধান
> > > > > > > > ের ভারত
> > > > > > > > সফরের
> > > > > > > > সবচেয়ে
বড়
> > > > > > > > অর্জন
হতে
> > > > > > > > পারে যদি
> > > > > > > > তিনি
> > > > > > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবাহিনী
> > > > > > > > র কাছ
থেকে
> > > > > > > > শিক্ষা
> > > > > > > > নিতে
> > > > পারেন
> > > > > > > > কিভাবে
> > > > > > > > একজন
> > > > > > > > পেশাদার
> > > > > > > > সৈনিক
> > > > হওয়া
> > > > > > > > > যায়।
> > তিনি
> > > > > > > > যদি
> > > > ভারতীয়
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সেনাবহিনীর
> > > > > > > > আদলে
নিজে
> > > > > > > > পেশাদার
> > > > > > > > সৈনিক
হয়ে
> > > > > > > > তার
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সৈন্যবাহিন
> > > > > > > > ীকেও
একটি
> > > > > > > > যথাযথ
> > > > > > > > পেশাদার
> > > > > > > >
বাহিনীতে
> > > > > > > > পরিণত
> > > > করতে
> > > > > > > > পারেন
তবে
> > > > > > > > দেশের
> > > > > > > > মানুষ
> > > > তাকে
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
সত্যিকারের
> > > > > > > > > সন্মান
> > > > > > > > জানাবে
> > > > > > > > এবংতার
> > > > > > > > মৃতুর
> > > > পরেও
> > > > > > > > তাকে মনে
> > > > > > > > রাখবে।
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > বিঃদ্রঃ-
> > > > > > > > (আমার এই
> > > > > > > >
লেখাটিকে
> > > > > > > >
ভারততোষণ
> > > > > > > > বলে মনে
> > > > করে
> > > > > > > > ভুল
বুঝতে
> > > > > > > > পারেন।
> > > > তবে
> > > > > > > > আমি মনে
> > > > করি
> > > > > > > > নিজের
> > > > > > > > শত্রুরও
> > > > > > > > যদি কোন
> > > > ভাল
> > > > > > > > গুন থাকে
> > > > তা
> > > > > > > > স্বীকার
> > > > > > > > করতে
> > > > কিংবা
> > > > > > > > তাকে
> > > > > > > > অনুসরণ
> > > > > > > > করতে
> > > > দোষের
> > > > > > > > কিছু
> > > > > > > > > নেই। বরং
> > > > > > তা
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
প্রকৃতঅর্থ
> > > > > > > > েই
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
বুদ্দিমানে
> > > > > > > > র কাজ এবং
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
মহত্ত্বের
> > > > > > > > পরিচায়ক)
।
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > http://www.somewhereinblog.net/blog/radachurablog/28774477
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is this CTG better than Ershad in case of political
> > party
> > > > reform
> > > > > > > > and anti corruption drive and dealings with teachers
and
> > > > > > Students ?
> > > > > > > > >
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----
> > ----
> > > > ----
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > Sobhan Allah- Only Allah flawless
> > > > > > > > > Alhamdulillah - All praise to be of Allah
> > > > > > > > > Allah hu Akbar - Allah, the Greatest
> > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
----
> > ----
> > > > ----
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Would Be
> > > > > > > > Mahathir of BD
> > > > > > > > >
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