Dear Mohammed Ramjan
Standing up to the political mafia in BNP and AL takes a lot of
bravery and anyone who thinks otherwise is in a state of denial about
the real condition of Bangladesh. No corrupt politician, bureaucrat
or businessman needs to wait to se the wolf : ) He is a wolf and
that is what is needed.
His defence of Bangladeshis and their interests in Kuwait was robust,
direct and brave. Neither Hasina or Khaleda would have said or done
half of what he did.
Don't worry about all the guys who just attack the General because it
offends their intellectual snobbery that an Army man is standing up.
If they spoke even once about the reforms needed in AL and BNP, if
they spoke even once about the condition of the country if an
election was held in January 2008, if they had the guts to be honest
about Hasina and Khaleda, if the they could talk freely about the
horrible failures of AL and BNP - but they won't. You see they can't.
They could never stand looking in the mirror.
Its's such a bad situation that these guys will criticise the CTG all
day but never once talk about the party they support, the reforms
needed in their parties, the failures of their parties. None of them
have the guts to stand up to their Nethri or speak against corruption
in their parties. All they can talk about is .... other people!
Its so pathetically lame.
I am getting the feeling that it's time to raise the temperature and
write about BENGALI CHORITHRO : ) Just watch them all attack me but
you know what - they all know what I'm talking about : )
Have a good kuwaiti summer!
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Mohammed Ramjan
>
> So you could resist your temptation to see Desher Daroan Gen. Did
you miss a few nights sleep? Moeen Uddin Ahmed.You met him for few
minutes and you quickly understood his personality and bravery. Look
he has not fought any war so far. So the question of his bravery does
not arise. In my view he is a chicken hearted General because during
his India trip he failed to bring regular killing of innocent
Bangladeshi citizens by India.
>
> Ershad is a very polite and down to earth person (at least
outside) But he is a complete culprit inside. He poisoned from the
women world to every spehere of Bangladesh. We will have to wait a
little bit more to see the wolf now hiding under the sheep skin of
your brave and polite general.
>
> S Hossain
> Toronto
>
> Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@...> wrote:
> Fortunately or unfortunately I was invited to attend
General Moin U Ahmed's smallest public gathering in Crown Plaza Hotel
Kuwait. Due to some other reason I did not attend the gathering.
>
> In the day of his departure at Kuwait Airport VIP lounge, I was
present with Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defence ministry
officials. I found this general a man of high personalities, really a
brave son of Bangladesh. Our talk was held for few minutes, shake
hands and finally goodbye.
>
> Same day I have handed over a book (binder) on "Land use
Technology" a subject on development control process and planning
permission, which technology UK implementing from 1948. Unfortunately
in India, Pakistan , Bangladesh, no where this subject was included
for study in any engineering college/university or in any polytechnic
Institute.
>
> We want implementation of this valuable technology in Bangladesh.
>
> Thanking you all
>
> Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> Kuwait
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> From: ezajur.rahman@...
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:21:11 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait
>
> Dear Alochok Zaheed
>
> Many thanks for your call for good manners. Though to be honest I
am
> probably the one most guilty of bad manners : ) I am writing to you
> because you have smashed the proverbial nail on the head by
saying...
>
> "...putting forth information, references, logic, anti-logic,
> philosophy and morals..."
>
> This is precisely the point - there is hardly any such debate
> anywhere. People are so tied up in the technicalities, strategies,
> problems, processes, etc that thorough political debate on the
issues
> (any issue) simply does not exist. Our papers are busy collecting
> handouts, press releases, quotations and numbers. Our editors and
tv
> pundits are busy pondering the mechanisms of democracy and not the
> meaning of democracy. And thats about it.
>
> WHERE ARE THE GREAT NATIONAL DEBATES ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION,
> ENVIRONMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN A MODERN
> BANGLADESH? Sure there's a debate on food prices but that debate
> happened because there was no choice.
>
> Go to any BNP and AL meeting and talk to them about any of these
> subjects. Some will look bewildered, some will get angry because
you
> didn't mention the 'nethri' and some will think you are a showoff
> from abroad.
>
> But get back to the fight for power and everyone is an expert! It's
> like we're all stuck in a neverending third rate Hindi daytime soap
> opera!
>
> The Army is indeed the darwan. The electorate is the landlord. The
> politcial parties are the tenants. The darwan has indeed taken
> over because the tenants are wrecking the house and the landlord is
> fed up. The darwan broke some flashy vases and ruined some precious
paintings - but the house itself was saved.
>
> As with all jonogonists, fancy talk about the lower classes
> ultimately gave way to scornful disdain of the lowly darwan!
>
> And personal attacks are all part of the fun - and a good measure
of how effective one is :)
>
> Best wishes
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Zaheed Naser <zaheed_naser@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Alochok,
> >
> > We all support a party, group or ideology one way or another and
> speak for them in a direct or subtle way and dear Ejajur obviously
> speaks for CTG and definitely is not the best friend of the two
> begums! Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, I donft, whichever,
I
> read his writings with care and attention obviously because of the
> fact that he knows how to dish it out well (and does he write well
> when he is pissed off J). My attempt here is to draw attention to
the
> fact that we shouldnft get personal (licking and all that
> phrases....) when we are indulging in an argument, we have the
right
> to speak for any party and we can do that by putting forth
> information, references, logic, anti-logic, philosophy and morals
and
> anything except stooping down to the low level of attacking any
> Alochok personally with indecent words!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Zaheed
> >
> >
> > Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@> wrote:
> > Do not wash your hands. Lick it for the rest of your
> life. Did you jump on his feet? Moeen U Ahmed is a "Daroan" of the
> Country. When a "Daroan" takes over the house, then everything
> collapses.
> >
> > SH
> > Toronto
> >
> > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > Khaleda Zia became BNP leader and PM because she is the wife
> of Ziaur
> > Rahman. BNP would have broken into various groups if the
symbolism
> of
> > Khaleda was absent. Khaleda maintained her position by a network
of
> > patronage, corruption and the ruthless removal of all internal
> > opposition.
> >
> > Hasina Wajed became AL leader and PM because she is the daughter
of
> > Sheikh Mujib. AL would have broken into various groups if the
> > symbolism of Hasina was absent. Hasina maintained her postion by
a
> > network of patronage, corruption and the ruthless removal of all
> > internal opposition.
> >
> > Tell it the way it is man Enot the way it makes your patriotic
ego
> > feel good.
> >
> > Where was I asking you to worship me or Moeen?
> > You don't have the guts or the ability to write 20 strong lines
> > against Hasina or Khaleda for anything.
> > And that's why, in reality, you do worship them.
> >
> > I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who went
after
> > Nizami. I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who
> went
> > after Salauddin Qader Chowdhury. But I don't expect you to
> understand
> > that. Please continue with the pechali, bhejali rubbish that has
> > ruined our country.
> >
> > The same ladies you admire were crazy to give malas to Dr Yunus
> when
> > he got the Nobel Prize. But when he dared to enter politics they
> > hurled abuse at him like the selfish hypocrites they are. Even
> though
> > as a citizen he is perfectly entitled to enter politics. Becasue
> these Royal Begums can't stand anyone else in their Kingdom.
> >
> > Don't give me that jonogonist mumbo jumbo. That's for the Royal
> > Khaleda and Royal Hasina to say during their campaigns.
> >
> > I haven't lost my mind. I just see that something is better than
> > nothing.
> >
> > Are you looking forward to the election man and making some money
> if
> > Hasina and Khaleda become PM? I am! If Hasina and Khaleda become
PM
> > I'm going to make some real money. Deshi style! Talk the jonogon
> talk
> > and fill my pockets with the nation's money at the same time.
> >
> > Maybe I could write a book: HOW TO MAKE MONEY WITH AL AND BNP
EFOR
> > DUMMIES.
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh on her own
credit
> > and elected by the people. She was not there by virtue of the
> mighty
> > gun. 99% of Bangladeshis belong to lower-middle or middle class.
To
> > what class Mr Ezajur belong to? To what class Gen Moen Uddin
Ahmed
> > belong to? Royal class? Are you asking us to worship you? Sorry I
> am
> > not worshiping Hasina or Khaleda. Both of them are leading two
> large
> > political parties for more than two decades. They posses strong
> > leadership qualities. Your Gen Moen has tried to form one
political
> > party with the help of C grade politicians and Nobel Prize winner
> but
> > has failed to even kick off.
> > >
> > > These army boot lickers have lost their minds.
> > >
> > > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > > Dear Alochoks
> > >
> > > Or perhaps I should prefer the State visit of Khaleda to Kuwait
a
> > > couple of years ago. Yes, perhaps her visit was more dignified
> than
> > > the visit of Moeen U Ahmed.
> > >
> > > She wanted to buy some jewellery. She was advised that the
finest
> > > jewellers in Kuwait would happily take a wide selection of
pieces
> > to
> > > her hotel. She was advised to go to a prestigious location. But
> she
> > > took the advice of some idiots and went to one of the worst
gold
> > > markets in Kuwait. As she walked through the shops onlookers
were
> > > bemused by her entourage. Who is she? Why is she here? The
market
> > > that seldom saw an upper middle class Indian was now graced by
> the
> > > Prime Minister of Bangladesh. Of course our jonogonists will
say
> > she went to the shops of the common man. But of course she bought
> > nothing
> > > there and in the end went to an exclusive shop and purchased a
> few
> > > trinkets and baubles - costing well beyond the dreams of the
> common
> > > man. Any idea how much she spent?
> > >
> > > Good old Bangladeshi democracy.
> > >
> > > It's a slapstick comedy.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > Kuwait
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Alochoks
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps I should prefer
> > > Hasina
> > > > to Moeen U Ahmed. Perhaps I should prefer her State visit to
> > Kuwait
> > > > back in 2000. The businessmen of AL held a reception for her
in
> > the
> > > > Grand Ballroom of the Sheraton Hotel. Perhaps I should be
proud
> > of
> > > > when the Foreign Minister, Abdus Samad Azad, declared that
the
> > > > audience should shout `Joy Bangla' in honour of The Nethri.
And
> > as
> > > > the chandeliers shook to the refrain of a 800 idiots chanting
> Joy
> > > > Bangla the front rows of VIPs, Ambassadors, MPs and Ministers
> > > quickly
> > > > and quietly escaped through the side doors. And the
> receptionists
> > > and
> > > > security men ran around the hotel like headless chickens. And
> > other
> > > > guests thought some terrorists had attacked. And like a
> brilliant
> > > > Foreign Minister he turned to one side of the crowd and
raising
> > his
> > > > hand urged them to shout even louder because he could not
hear
> > > them.
> > > > And Hasina just smiled with happiness.
> > > >
> > > > The Sheraton Hotel, the oldest and most prestigious hotel in
> > > Kuwait,
> > > > entwined with the very history of Kuwait itself, witness to
the
> > > > graciousness of a 1,000 stately receptions over the decades,
> had
> > > just
> > > > seen its most ungracious day.
> > > >
> > > > But then who cares that the rest of Kuwait just thought:
> > > >
> > > > What else do you expect from the Prime Minister and Foreign
> > > Minister
> > > > of the cleanersElt;BR>> >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > Kuwait
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Saeed Bhai
> > > > >
> > > > > Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake his
> hand
> > and
> > > > > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you might be
> > > thinking
> > > > > for Hasina or Khaleda : )
> > > > >
> > > > > He is certainly not one of the greatest personalities on
> > > > > earth but definitely one of the bravest in Bangladesh.
> > > > >
> > > > > The future does not belong to him or me. But it belongs to
> all
> > of
> > > us
> > > > > who want a Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all
that
> > > they
> > > > represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the possibilty of
> > that
> > > > future exists only because of the courage of the CTG. Not
> because
> > > of
> > > > anyone else or anything else.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is this apple polishing you speak of? What do you know
> > about
> > > > > real apple polishing? Look at what our people do with
Hasina
> and
> > > > > Khaleda - the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the
> > malishing,
> > > > > the thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking!
We
> > > could
> > > > > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention that
> > will
> > > > you.
> > > > > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to talk about me and my
> > > > > handshake.
> > > > >
> > > > > And what is this pity you feel? What do you know about real
> > pity?
> > > > > Where is your pity for our people who are made fools of by
> > > > > politicians year after year with lie after lie? Where is
your
> > pity
> > > > > for a democracy where democracy ONLY means that political
> > > operatives
> > > > > are allowed to do anything they want? Where is your pity
for a
> > > > > democracy where if you challenge the leader of your party
> your
> > > house
> > > > > gets burned down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable
> truths.
> > > Far
> > > > > easier to talk about me wishing the General well.
> > > > >
> > > > > You should wish him well too. For because of him the voter
> > rolls
> > > > will
> > > > > be more accurate than ever before. The voting booths will
be
> > more
> > > > > secure than ever before. The vote count will be more
> legitimate
> > > than
> > > > > ever before. The voters will be safer than every before.
Your
> > > dream
> > > > > will come true - you will have your free and fair election
> > between
> > > > > corrupt parties.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't dream of a future where unelected, unaccountable
> > officials
> > > > > are forced to act because of the stupidity of elected
> > > politicians. I
> > > > > dream of a future where AL and BNP behave like proper
> democratic
> > > > > parties in a modern Bangladesh. And the CTG has done more
to
> > > achieve
> > > > > that than the Central Committees of AL or BNP. People who
> slam
> > the
> > > > > CTG and claim to be neutral never ever talk about AL and
BNP.
> > If
> > > > they
> > > > > did then they would be really making a difference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Look at our country. Be honest. We have far more to pity
than
> > > Moeen
> > > > > and Fakhruddin and dreamers like me.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way - who do you think I should vote for? Hasina or
> > > Khaleda?
> > > > > Why? Convince me without insulting me : )
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes
> > > > >
> > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > Kuwait
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > > > > <saeedurrehman92@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the
biggest
> > > > > > achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands after
> > > shaking
> > > > it
> > > > > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must preserve the scent of
him
> on
> > > > your
> > > > > > hands. The future definitely belongs to you because you
> > shaked
> > > > hands
> > > > > > with one the greatest personality on earth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really don't feel bad feel bad when I read a writing
like
> > > this.
> > > > > Nice
> > > > > > piece of apple polishing. I, however, feel pity for a
> nation
> > in
> > > > > which
> > > > > > people like this exists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saeed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
<ezajur.rahman@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Alochoks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking
> the
> > > hand
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an official visit to
> Kuwait.
> > > > > Whilst
> > > > > > > he was largely surrounded by people who supported the
CTG
> > and
> > > > who
> > > > > > > were showering him with their views I got the
opportunity
> on
> > > > > behalf
> > > > > > > of all supporters of the CTG to wish him good health,
> long
> > > life
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > continued success. He reiterated that the nation needed
an
> > > > > election
> > > > > > > in December 2008.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Moeen U Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I
remain
> > > > > defiantly
> > > > > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that change is
> > > possible.
> > > > > > > Because of such men even politicians now believe that
> > change
> > > is
> > > > > > > possible. That change, so desperately needed, must
> finally
> > be
> > > > > decided
> > > > > > > by our politicians. But there is no doubt that it is
> these
> > > men
> > > > who
> > > > > > > threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that
the
> > teams
> > > > > play
> > > > > > > sincerely.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And for those who think that standing next to Hasina or
> > > Khaleda
> > > > > is a
> > > > > > > greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus, Dr
> > > > > Fakhruddin or
> > > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if your dreams come true,
> the
> > > > future
> > > > > > > still does not belong to you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir
> > > faruquealamgir@
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS THEM AS THE GREATEST INTELIGENT
SO
> > THE
> > > > CASE
> > > > > > > WITH OUR FRIEND....................................
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Faruque Alamgir
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi s_ayubi786@
> > > > > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech
> > > > > > > was an excellent one. Why nitwits like yourself
criticise
> > him
> > > is
> > > > > > > beyond my comprehension. Instead of using a very famous
> > man's
> > > > name
> > > > > > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name. You
are
> > > > > > > disgracing a great man. You with your level of
> intelligence
> > > will
> > > > > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man achieved
in
> his
> > > > > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding people. I do
> not
> > > feel
> > > > > > > that the country is safe in the hands of our kind of
> > > > politicians,
> > > > > > > most of whom do not have the basic education behind
them.
> > Era
> > > > > shobai
> > > > > > > foot pather neta. bhalo kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho
> eder
> > > > > > > akebarei nei.
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 5/13/08, mahathir of bd
> wouldbemahathirofbd@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made
us
> > > laugh
> > > > by
> > > > > > > your sermon
> > > > > > > > To: tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com,
> chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > khabor@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > তà§à¦®à¦¿ কর মঈনà§E¦°
> > > > > > > লà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿ à¦E¦°
> > > > > > লà§E¦•à¦šà¦¾à¦°
> > > > > > > ছাà§Eলà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿ না
> > > > > > করার
> > > > > > > জনà§à¦¯ ।
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > দà§à¦°à¦¬à§à¦¯à¦®à§‚লà§à¦¯à§E¦°
> > > > > > কষà§à¦Ÿà§E¦°
> > > > > > > মধà§à¦¯à§E¦" হাসির খà§&lsqauo;র
> াà¦Elt;BR>> > > > যà§&lsqauo;à¦Elt;BR>> > > > > াà¦E¦²à¦¾ ফখ
র
> দà§à¦¦à¦¿
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > যথাসময়à§E জরà§à¦°à¦¿
> > > > > > à¦E¦E¦¨à§E¦° ধার
> > > > > > > া সà§à¦¥à¦—িত বা শিথিল,
> > > > > > > লà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿
> > > > > > রাজনীতির à¦Elt;BR>> > > > >
> পসংসà§à¦•à§E¦¤à¦¿ থà§E¦•à§Elt;BR>> > > > উ
> দà§à¦§à¦¾à¦° জর
> > > > > > > à§à¦°à¦¿, পà§à¦°à¦¾à¦¤à¦¿à¦·à§à¦ ানিà¦Eà¦"
> > > > > > à¦E¦E¦¨à¦¿
> > > > > > > সংসà§à¦•à¦¾à¦°à§E¦°
> > > > > > ধারাবাহিকতা
> > > > > > > বজাà§E জাতীà§Elt;BR>> > > > নির
> à§à¦¬à¦¾à¦šà¦¨à§E¦° à¦E¦Elt;BR>> > > > > à§Eউ
পজà§E¦²à¦¾,
> পৌরসভা à¦"
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