Dear Mohammed Ramjan
You were indeed unfortunate to attend the reception at the Crowne
Plaza - the General gave an excellent speech! There were only 200
guests as space was limited but everyone certainly had a thoroughly
refreshing evening - the community spoke about the problems of our
labourers and the General spoke about efforts underway to fix some of
the problems. This would never have been possible under a political
government because the crooks are all politically protected : )
Come on man! The Crowne Plaza is a fine hotel but it is probably the
cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait! Sheesh. It was hired solely
because it was the cheapest :D I've hired the same ballroom used for
Mooen U Ahmed's reception several times - because it was the
cheapeast :D
Be careful about giving too much personal information on these
forums - there are real people who provoke you for an answer only to
identify you. So that when their Nethri comes to power they will
harass you. I don't give a rats backside about such challenges but I
am also a reckless person too. Be careful.
I know one person who managed to access the VIP lounge and give their
regards to Moeen U Ahmed. Its not so difficult. As if the VIP Lounge
of ZIA Airport cannot be accessed! Yes Kuwait is part of the
world :)
Write to me directly and lets meet up! And we can have a nice cheap
meal at the Crowne Plaza Hotel and discuss who supports which nethri
on the internet but is too ashamed to actually say it : )
Have a nice day
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92" <saeedurrehman92@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mr.Bhuiyan
>
> I think that you were unfortunate that you could not see Gen. Moin
at
> Hotel Crown Plaza (again one of the most prestigious Hotels in
Kuwait).
> And, I think that the General was fortunate that he did not see
you. You
> said it was smallest public gathering. In what capacity you were
invited
> there?
>
> Again, you said that you went to VIP lounge of Kuwait Airport along
with
> Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defense Ministry officials in (or
on)
> the day of his departure. Were you from Bangladesh Embassy or from
> Kuwaiti Defense Ministry? In your few minutes talk you found "this
> general a man of high personalities (or personality), really a
brave son
> of Bangladesh". I don't know that I should agree with you or not
> but I found you a man of high personalities (or personality) though
I am
> not sure if you are a brave son of Bangladesh. One shake hand and
you
> knew everything about the General.
>
> I would like to remind you that Kuwait is also part of the world
and if
> not all some people know how the business is conducted there. My
> brotherly advice, try to be honest don't exaggerate or lie.
>
>
>
> Saeed
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Fortunately or unfortunately I was invited to attend General Moin
U
> Ahmed's smallest public gathering in Crown Plaza Hotel Kuwait. Due
to
> some other reason I did not attend the gathering.
> >
> > In the day of his departure at Kuwait Airport VIP lounge, I was
> present with Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defence ministry
officials.
> I found this general a man of high personalities, really a brave
son of
> Bangladesh. Our talk was held for few minutes, shake hands and
finally
> goodbye.
> >
> > Same day I have handed over a book (binder) on "Land use
Technology" a
> subject on development control process and planning permission,
which
> technology UK implementing from 1948. Unfortunately in India,
Pakistan ,
> Bangladesh, no where this subject was included for study in any
> engineering college/university or in any polytechnic Institute.
> >
> > We want implementation of this valuable technology in Bangladesh.
> >
> > Thanking you all
> >
> > Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> > To: alochona@: ezajur.rahman@: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:21:11
> +0000Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Alochok ZaheedMany thanks for your call for good manners.
Though
> to be honest I am probably the one most guilty of bad manners : ) I
am
> writing to you because you have smashed the proverbial nail on the
head
> by saying..."...putting forth information, references, logic,
> anti-logic, philosophy and morals..."This is precisely the point -
there
> is hardly any such debate anywhere. People are so tied up in the
> technicalities, strategies, problems, processes, etc that thorough
> political debate on the issues (any issue) simply does not exist.
Our
> papers are busy collecting handouts, press releases, quotations and
> numbers. Our editors and tv pundits are busy pondering the
mechanisms of
> democracy and not the meaning of democracy. And thats about
it.WHERE ARE
> THE GREAT NATIONAL DEBATES ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, ENVIRONMENT,
LOCAL
> GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN A MODERN BANGLADESH? Sure
there's a
> debate on food prices but that debate happened because there was no
> choice.Go to any BNP and AL meeting and talk to them about any of
these
> subjects. Some will look bewildered, some will get angry because you
> didn't mention the 'nethri' and some will think you are a showoff
from
> abroad.But get back to the fight for power and everyone is an
expert!
> It's like we're all stuck in a neverending third rate Hindi daytime
soap
> opera!The Army is indeed the darwan. The electorate is the
landlord. The
> politcial parties are the tenants. The darwan has indeed taken over
> because the tenants are wrecking the house and the landlord is fed
up.
> The darwan broke some flashy vases and ruined some precious
paintings -
> but the house itself was saved. As with all jonogonists, fancy talk
> about the lower classes ultimately gave way to scornful disdain of
the
> lowly darwan!And personal attacks are all part of the fun - and a
good
> measure of how effective one is :) Best wishesEzajur RahmanKuwait---
In
> alochona@yahoogroups.com, Zaheed Naser zaheed_naser@ wrote:>> Dear
> Alochok,> > We all support a party, group or ideology one way or
another
> and speak for them in a direct or subtle way and dear Ejajur
obviously
> speaks for CTG and definitely is not the best friend of the two
begums!
> Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, I donft, whichever, I read
> his writings with care and attention obviously because of the fact
that
> he knows how to dish it out well (and does he write well when he is
> pissed off J). My attempt here is to draw attention to the fact
that we
> shouldnft get personal (licking and all that phrases....) when we
> are indulging in an argument, we have the right to speak for any
party
> and we can do that by putting forth information, references, logic,
> anti-logic, philosophy and morals and anything except stooping down
to
> the low level of attacking any Alochok personally with indecent
words! >
> > Regards,> Zaheed> > > Sajjad Hossain shossain456@ wrote:> Do not
wash
> your hands. Lick it for the rest of your life. Did you jump on his
feet?
> Moeen U Ahmed is a "Daroan" of the Country. When a "Daroan" takes
over
> the house, then everything collapses. > > SH> Toronto> > ezajur
> ezajur.rahman@ wrote:> Khaleda Zia became BNP leader and PM because
she
> is the wife of Ziaur > Rahman. BNP would have broken into various
groups
> if the symbolism of > Khaleda was absent. Khaleda maintained her
> position by a network of > patronage, corruption and the ruthless
> removal of all internal > opposition.> > Hasina Wajed became AL
leader
> and PM because she is the daughter of > Sheikh Mujib. AL would have
> broken into various groups if the > symbolism of Hasina was absent.
> Hasina maintained her postion by a > network of patronage,
corruption
> and the ruthless removal of all > internal opposition.> > Tell it
the
> way it is man Enot the way it makes your patriotic ego > feel
> good.> > Where was I asking you to worship me or Moeen?> You don't
have
> the guts or the ability to write 20 strong lines > against Hasina or
> Khaleda for anything.> And that's why, in reality, you do worship
them.>
> > I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who went
after >
> Nizami. I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who
went >
> after Salauddin Qader Chowdhury. But I don't expect you to
understand >
> that. Please continue with the pechali, bhejali rubbish that has >
> ruined our country.> > The same ladies you admire were crazy to give
> malas to Dr Yunus when > he got the Nobel Prize. But when he dared
to
> enter politics they > hurled abuse at him like the selfish
hypocrites
> they are. Even though > as a citizen he is perfectly entitled to
enter
> politics. Becasue these Royal Begums can't stand anyone else in
their
> Kingdom.> > Don't give me that jonogonist mumbo jumbo. That's for
the
> Royal > Khaleda and Royal Hasina to say during their campaigns.> > I
> haven't lost my mind. I just see that something is better than >
> nothing.> > Are you looking forward to the election man and making
some
> money if > Hasina and Khaleda become PM? I am! If Hasina and Khaleda
> become PM > I'm going to make some real money. Deshi style! Talk the
> jonogon talk > and fill my pockets with the nation's money at the
same
> time.> > Maybe I could write a book: HOW TO MAKE MONEY WITH AL AND
BNP
> EFOR > DUMMIES.> > Ezajur Rahman> Kuwait> > --- In
> alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@> > wrote:>
>> >
> Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh on her own credit >
and
> elected by the people. She was not there by virtue of the mighty >
gun.
> 99% of Bangladeshis belong to lower-middle or middle class. To >
what
> class Mr Ezajur belong to? To what class Gen Moen Uddin Ahmed >
belong
> to? Royal class? Are you asking us to worship you? Sorry I am > not
> worshiping Hasina or Khaleda. Both of them are leading two large >
> political parties for more than two decades. They posses strong >
> leadership qualities. Your Gen Moen has tried to form one political
>
> party with the help of C grade politicians and Nobel Prize winner
but >
> has failed to even kick off.> > > > These army boot lickers have
lost
> their minds.> > > > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > Dear
Alochoks> > >
> > Or perhaps I should prefer the State visit of Khaleda to Kuwait a
> >
> couple of years ago. Yes, perhaps her visit was more dignified than
> >
> the visit of Moeen U Ahmed. > > > > She wanted to buy some
jewellery.
> She was advised that the finest > > jewellers in Kuwait would
happily
> take a wide selection of pieces > to > > her hotel. She was advised
to
> go to a prestigious location. But she > > took the advice of some
idiots
> and went to one of the worst gold > > markets in Kuwait. As she
walked
> through the shops onlookers were > > bemused by her entourage. Who
is
> she? Why is she here? The market > > that seldom saw an upper middle
> class Indian was now graced by the > > Prime Minister of
Bangladesh. Of
> course our jonogonists will say > she went to the shops of the
common
> man. But of course she bought > nothing > > there and in the end
went to
> an exclusive shop and purchased a few > > trinkets and baubles -
costing
> well beyond the dreams of the common > > man. Any idea how much she
> spent?> > > > Good old Bangladeshi democracy.> > > > It's a
slapstick
> comedy.> > > > Regards> > > > Ezajur Rahman> > Kuwait> > > > --- In
> alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > >> > >
> Dear Alochoks> > > > > > On the other hand perhaps I am wrong.
Perhaps I
> should prefer > > Hasina > > > to Moeen U Ahmed. Perhaps I should
prefer
> her State visit to > Kuwait > > > back in 2000. The businessmen of
AL
> held a reception for her in > the > > > Grand Ballroom of the
Sheraton
> Hotel. Perhaps I should be proud > of > > > when the Foreign
Minister,
> Abdus Samad Azad, declared that the > > > audience should shout `Joy
> Bangla' in honour of The Nethri. And > as > > > the chandeliers
shook to
> the refrain of a 800 idiots chanting Joy > > > Bangla the front
rows of
> VIPs, Ambassadors, MPs and Ministers > > quickly > > > and quietly
> escaped through the side doors. And the receptionists > > and > > >
> security men ran around the hotel like headless chickens. And >
other >
> > > guests thought some terrorists had attacked. And like a
brilliant >
> > > Foreign Minister he turned to one side of the crowd and raising
>
> his > > > hand urged them to shout even louder because he could not
hear
> > > them. > > > And Hasina just smiled with happiness.> > > > > >
The
> Sheraton Hotel, the oldest and most prestigious hotel in > >
Kuwait, > >
> > entwined with the very history of Kuwait itself, witness to the >
> >
> graciousness of a 1,000 stately receptions over the decades, had > >
> just > > > seen its most ungracious day.> > > > > > But then who
cares
> that the rest of Kuwait just thought:> > > > > > What else do you
expect
> from the Prime Minister and Foreign > > Minister > > > of the
> cleanersElt;BR>> > > > > Regards> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman> > >
> Kuwait > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
> <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Saeed Bhai> > > > > > > >
> Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake his hand >
and> >
> > > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you might be > >
> thinking> > > > for Hasina or Khaleda : )> > > > > > > > He is
certainly
> not one of the greatest personalities on> > > > earth but
definitely one
> of the bravest in Bangladesh.> > > > > > > > The future does not
belong
> to him or me. But it belongs to all > of > > us> > > > who want a
> Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all that > > they > > >
> represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the possibilty of >
that > >
> > future exists only because of the courage of the CTG. Not because
> >
> of > > > anyone else or anything else.> > > > > > > > What is this
apple
> polishing you speak of? What do you know > about> > > > real apple
> polishing? Look at what our people do with Hasina and> > > >
Khaleda -
> the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the > malishing,> > > >
the
> thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking! We > >
could> > >
> > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention that >
will > >
> > you.> > > > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to talk about me
and
> my> > > > handshake.> > > > > > > > And what is this pity you feel?
What
> do you know about real > pity?> > > > Where is your pity for our
people
> who are made fools of by> > > > politicians year after year with lie
> after lie? Where is your > pity> > > > for a democracy where
democracy
> ONLY means that political > > operatives> > > > are allowed to do
> anything they want? Where is your pity for a> > > > democracy where
if
> you challenge the leader of your party your > > house> > > > gets
burned
> down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable truths. > > Far> > > >
> easier to talk about me wishing the General well.> > > > > > > > You
> should wish him well too. For because of him the voter > rolls > > >
> will> > > > be more accurate than ever before. The voting booths
will be
> > more> > > > secure than ever before. The vote count will be more
> legitimate > > than> > > > ever before. The voters will be safer
than
> every before. Your > > dream> > > > will come true - you will have
your
> free and fair election > between> > > > corrupt parties.> > > > > >
> >
> I don't dream of a future where unelected, unaccountable >
officials> >
> > > are forced to act because of the stupidity of elected > >
> politicians. I> > > > dream of a future where AL and BNP behave like
> proper democratic> > > > parties in a modern Bangladesh. And the
CTG has
> done more to > > achieve> > > > that than the Central Committees of
AL
> or BNP. People who slam > the> > > > CTG and claim to be neutral
never
> ever talk about AL and BNP. > If > > > they> > > > did then they
would
> be really making a difference.> > > > > > > > Look at our country.
Be
> honest. We have far more to pity than > > Moeen> > > > and
Fakhruddin
> and dreamers like me.> > > > > > > > By the way - who do you think I
> should vote for? Hasina or > > Khaleda?> > > > Why? Convince me
without
> insulting me : )> > > > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > > > > Ezajur
> Rahman> > > > Kuwait> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> ---
> In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"> > > >
<saeedurrehman92@>
> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur> > > > >> > > > >
> Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the biggest> > > > >
> achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands after > >
shaking >
> > > it> > > > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must preserve the scent
of
> him on > > > your> > > > > hands. The future definitely belongs to
you
> because you > shaked > > > hands> > > > > with one the greatest
> personality on earth.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't feel bad
feel bad
> when I read a writing like > > this.> > > > Nice> > > > > piece of
apple
> polishing. I, however, feel pity for a nation > in> > > > which> >
> > >
> people like this exists.> > > > >> > > > > Saeed> > > > >> > > > >>
> >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> > >
> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > >> > > > > >
> Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking the > >
hand> >
> > > of> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an official visit
to
> Kuwait.> > > > Whilst> > > > > > he was largely surrounded by
people who
> supported the CTG > and > > > who> > > > > > were showering him with
> their views I got the opportunity on> > > > behalf> > > > > > of all
> supporters of the CTG to wish him good health, long > > life> > > >
and>
> > > > > > continued success. He reiterated that the nation needed
an> >
> > > election> > > > > > in December 2008.> > > > > >> > > > > >
Moeen U
> Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I remain> > > >
defiantly> > >
> > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that change is > >
> possible.> > > > > > Because of such men even politicians now
believe
> that > change > > is> > > > > > possible. That change, so
desperately
> needed, must finally > be> > > > decided> > > > > > by our
politicians.
> But there is no doubt that it is these > > men > > > who> > > > > >
> threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that the > teams> >
> >
> play> > > > > > sincerely.> > > > > >> > > > > > And for those who
think
> that standing next to Hasina or > > Khaleda> > > > is a> > > > > >
> greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus, Dr> > > >
> Fakhruddin or> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if your dreams
> come true, the > > > future> > > > > > still does not belong to
you.> >
> > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman> > >
> >
> > Kuwait> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In
> alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir > > faruquealamgir@> > >
> > >
> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS THEM AS THE
> GREATEST INTELIGENT SO > THE > > > CASE> > > > > > WITH OUR
> FRIEND....................................> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> Faruque Alamgir> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi
s_ayubi786@>
> > > > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech> > > > > > was an excellent
one.
> Why nitwits like yourself criticise > him > > is> > > > > > beyond
my
> comprehension. Instead of using a very famous > man's > > > name> >
> >
> > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name. You are> > >
> >
> > disgracing a great man. You with your level of intelligence > >
will>
> > > > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man achieved in
his>
> > > > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding people. I do
not >
> > feel> > > > > > that the country is safe in the hands of our kind
of >
> > > politicians,> > > > > > most of whom do not have the basic
education
> behind them. > Era> > > > shobai> > > > > > foot pather neta. bhalo
> kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho eder> > > > > > akebarei nei.> > >
> > >
> > .> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On
Tue,
> 5/13/08, mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@ > > > wrote:> > > > >
> >>
> > > > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@> > > > > > >
> Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made us > > laugh >
> >
> by> > > > > > your sermon> > > > > > > To:
tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com,
> chottala@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > > khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> dahuk@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > > vinnomot@yahoogroups.com,
> alochona@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com >
> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM> > > > > > >> > > >
> >
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