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Sunday, November 23, 2008

RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?

Dear All,

I think we should strive better to move forward with all accommodations possible. That does not necessarily mean that the people who in the past, shedded, turnished or pondered the lives, sanctity, funds, privileges, or the rights of the commoners can be included in the accommodation. They must be identified and with due process be tried for their crimes. Criminals may never be allowed any mercy. If it is done, the confidence of the public to who, in power diminishes. So, framing the laws, rules and acts are not onbly the responsibility of the Government and Law-Makers; but the implementation is crucial. This does not happen well in Bangladesh and that is the main reason for all kinds of anarchy and criminality. The anarchs and criminals know ahead of time that they can ultimately be getting away with punishments for their misdeeds. Jamat and Nizam's killers during liberation got away with, Bakshal's tyrants got awayw with, Zia's inclusion of religious fanatics in politics and power got away with, Ershad' kukarmos got away with, AL's recent mass vandalism got away with, BNP's ultra superior hoarding including Mr. 10% got duly away with, all street corner hudlooms and all community chadabuzes are getting away with everyday, millions of taka's bribing are still being transacted everywhere with-to-&-by all sensible people. Moulobadis are spreading unfounded hates against secularists all over in the country. The musclemen are still quite capable of mobilizing their power and bring people in their tents. So, where is the level plainfield, to play the fair game? The current CTG and their backer Army tried to clean some of the messes but surely failed.

These are certainly the serious obstacles to move our country towards stability and prosperity. But if we give up the hopes and just remain inactive, these evil powers will grow more. All clean (I mean not having the record of past criminality) sensible patriotic Bangladeshis (at home & abroad) must create a leveled plainfield where the people of all spectrum (again excluding those are not clean) can participate with their utmost efforts to help the country's progress and prosperity, in whatever way possible. Only an election, and bringing the old folks with criminal records, in power, will not really give anything to the country. Election is necessary but the nominations shall be controlled by whatever process (by primary, by court, by some commission, or whatever) possible such that the people who pondered the country once can not come to power again, to do it more and more.

Thanks and have a great day.

Regards,
KR

To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: maqsudo@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:12:14 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?

RE: Masud, Seattle
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Many thanks...for your precious reminder, to do something for the country.
Fortunately, while making angry remarks on this site, I do contribute .....few little things...
to bring some happiness to the lives of few ordinary Bdeshis.
I also encourage my friends to get involved in chahrity + voluntary work, while giving big lectures on numerous topics.
I always wonder, how much difference, we Bangladeshi expatriates can make, if we JUST contribute $10 a month....
to useful projects in Bdesh, managed by wise , efficient and honest people?

Many thanks.

Khoda hafez.
dr. maqsud omat







To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: cliff_deba@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:23:42 -0800
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?

Every man is a philosopher, and a coin has two sides....or much can be said from both side. But one thing can be said from all sides, and no justification is required behind letting Jamat in our country and taking the secularism out of our constituion. This alone qualifies and justifies zia and ershad capital punishment...killed the complete sense or essence of our liberation war.
 
Clifford Gonsalves

--- On Wed, 11/19/08, Masud Rana <sonarbangla08@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Masud Rana <sonarbangla08@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 4:16 PM

Re: Dr. Maqsud
 
Dr. Maqsud:
 
Some of your reactions to others are quite pointed and full of anger.  I wonder by unleashing your anger without having to justify our reasons in a reserved manner would do any good to anyone to influence anyone's opinions or beliefs.  Either you have a Ph.D. or you are a medical doctor and as such you are, no doubt, highly educated.  Perhaps, it would help, if nothing else, to channel our anger in a constructive manner.
 
All these discussions here do very little to actually do something good to our country, which we need right now. 
 
Why don't we really do something for our country to meke it better and not resort to our endless bickering about who did what, who was what.
 
Masud
Seattle

--- On Wed, 11/19/08, maqsud omaba <maqsudo@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: maqsud omaba <maqsudo@hotmail. com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 10:28 AM

re: AL thugs of 1971
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no...no....not every body, who fought in liberation war were thugs...some were.

Zia is one of the brightest star in our short history, a powerful general and president who did not allow his family + relatives
to benefit in any form/manner/ way.

An honest person, who did not steal 1 Tk. from anybody/ anywhere.

A man with vision, who spent hours with ordinary people in the country side.

A true patriot who worked hard to improve the quality of life for common men/women.

A dedicated soldier, who left home, leaving behind his family, to lead the liberation force.

He was not a moron, like many many present /past AL politicians.

Best wishes.

dr. maqsud omar






To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: m_musa92870@ yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:39:57 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?

Re: M. Omar
"the style of AL thugs in 1971"? …. I think by saying this you have truly exposed yourself.  It reminds me of the crooked BNP-Jamaat politicians who are now questioning the election result of 1970.  So all our leaders (including many currently in BNP and JP) in 1971, soldiers including Ziaur Rahman, and muktijoddhas were either AL thugs or blindly followed the AL thugs according to your ridiculous and outrageous statement.  Do you remember the munafiqs during the prophets (SA) time?  They were the ones who outwardly declared shahada and assured the Muslims that they were with them, but during the time of need worked against the Muslims.  Jamaat did exactly the same.  They didn't just have different political opinions about the liberation war, they fought against the freedom fighters.  They thought the Pak army was going to win.  They formed paramilitary terrorist organization with the help of Pakistani military.  They killed and raped civilians, and aided the Pakistani army in doing the same.  They are the ones who planned and carried out the intellectual murders in Dec, 1971.  Just reading their newspaper Daily Sangram from Mar 26 thru Dec 16, 1971 will give you some idea.  No matter how twisted way you defend them, the stench of your argument won't sway the public sentiment. 
Most of the people (except the so called grass roots activists of the political parties) in Bangladesh want to see the corrupt politicians in jail.  Nobody is denying the damages done by all the political parties over the years.  But they also want the trial for war crimes committed by Jamaat's top leadership simultaneously.  As Mr. Cyrus put it very nicely, there are two different issues here.  Honestly speaking, both need to be addressed.  But based on your argument we should only focus on BNP, JP and AL, and leave Jamaat alone.  As far as I remember from your past writings, you still grumble about the 1972-1975 AL period.  Is 1971 too far from 1972? 
In addition to 1971 war crimes, Jamaat jointly ruled the country with BNP from 2001–2006.  How many of the wrong things and corruption cases that happened during that period did Jamaat protest?  Zero.  Did they resign from the government or did they even contemplate doing that? Nope.  Just read any newspaper during that period.  Jamaat enthusiastically defended every action of BNP.  Why wouldn't they?  They were part of that government too.  The number of one enemy of Islam are the people who have outward religious appearance and activities, but whose evil actions and words turn others away from Islam. 
The same corrupt and gutless politicians will keep coming back, because Jamaat showed them how to get away with vicious crimes.  And people like you make it even easier, because the corrupt politicians know there are people out there who will support or defend them no matter what.
Mohammad Musa Sarkar
--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, maqsud omaba <maqsudo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Re: cyrus
> ------------ -
>
>
> many thanks...for your well-written, to the point letter.
>
> i am not prepared to accept the fact that people who critisizes Jamaat, equally critisized other corrupt politicians. ....that hasn't been my experience.
>
> The magnitude of colourful criticism of Jamaat acclerated.. ...when the CTG was trying to expose some of the top AL, BNP politicians + other
> corrupt elements! What a co-incidence! ...Is it not a " smoke screen"
>
> If you truly understand the process of democracy and want to practise that.......why do you want to attack anybody/everybody ...who has different opinion about our leadership during liberation war, who preferred independence through other means, who did not like the style of AL thugs
> in 1971, who nourishes different political views than you do?!
>
> You have totally avoided making comments about my Q.......how much damages Jamaat has caused,,,, and how much damages AL, BNP and others
> contributed in the past ?
>
> AL, BNP +other corrupt politicians have created a society..... .where violence, corruption, immorality are beyond control now.
> who will fix sickness in our community now? How?
>
> Can you please explain...why we need to bring ..the same corrupt,gut- less politicians. .. back to power again?
>
> Why have you concluded... that I think I am the only good guy to contribute to the community!!
>
> I didn't.
>
> We should spend more time + energy to fix our problems in Bdesh and take positive steps to create a CLEAN, DEDICATED, CARING society....
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> From: thoughtocrat@ ...
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:21:47 -0800
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
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> Dr. Omar:
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> I think you are mixing up two issues here. One is Jamaat's past, it's well-known opposition to our independence and sovereignty, and its destructive and extremist activities that is contrary to the secular constitution that we hold true. It is about Jamaat's unrepentance, and the justice that was never delivered on behalf of the people. The other issues is AL, BNP, JP, et. al. who have bankrupted this country through corruption, misdeeds, violence, and failed policies. The two issues are not the same.
>
> Sir, it is also careless to say that people who advocate against Jamaat are "either naive/paid agents/or simply stupid". I personally take offense in your comment, as I write frequently against Jamaat.....as well as against AL, BNP, JP and their moral bankruptcy. I suggest that you read the past postings of those who speak against Jamaat, and I am sure you would find that most of them also speak against the maladies of our current political atmosphere.
>
> No one has ever suggested that if one is a proud and pious muslim, one is automatically a fanatic or jamaat supporter. On the same note, no one has tried to create "smoke screens" for AL, BNP, JP et. al. It is a discourse, whether you like it or not, and we all are entitled to our opinions as well as our political convictions.
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> I am always skeptical about self-proclaimed "contributors" to Bangladeshi community, both in BD and abroad. But I am glad that you find solace in your work for the community, and I am sure the community appreciates it too. But, it is rather naive and narcissistic to assume that you are the only who contributes to the betterment of the community, and those who write here against Jamaat do not. As far as I can tell, you have no knowledge of the background of frequent writers here, including Ms. Farida Majid, and I doubt that you have examined whether these people have made any positive contribution to our community everywhere. Lastly, your comment about "paid agent" is irresponsible and has the ring of "McCarthyism" , and in our context those labels show lack of judgment on your part.
>
> I look forward to your continued contribution to this forum.
>
> Sincerely,
> Cyrus
>
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> From: maqsud omaba maqsudo@...
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 2:22:41 AM
> Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
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>
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> ATTN. Farida Majid
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>
> You and few other " elite intellectuals " often write about jamaat....their wrong philosophy, aggressive manners, cruel activities, etc.
>
> have you ever asked yourself, how much damage Jamaat has done...to Bangladesh; and how much damage AL + BNP + ershad + beauracrats
> + politicians have caused since Jan, 1972??
>
> The answer will be simple, clear and shattering.
>
> People like you , who are always yelling about Jamaat's destructive activities, are either naive / paid agents/ or simple stupid.
> It is time for you to wake up and write more constructive items on Bdeshi issues.
>
> Blaming Jamaat for all the Bdeshi mess will not be useful. sending few more corrupt officials + politicians to prison may be more therapeutic and helpful.
>
> I am a proud muslim, not a fanatic, not a Jamaat supporter. But i dont enjoy creating " smoke screen" on behalf of crooked + corrupt
> AL +
> BNP politicians.
>
> It is time to reassess your style and contribute more to the Bdeshi community... . I do.
>
> khoda hafez.
>
> dr. maqsud omar
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> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> From: farida_majid@ hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:09 -0400
> Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
>
> Blame it all on RAW/MOSAD. Do we have instances of Indian BJP/Sangh Parivar engaged in mass killing of Hindus? Do the Zionists habitually engage in murdering the Jew?
>
> How about our Jamaati Islami berathari toward fellow Muslims of Bangla land? Please read the followin note frm Ahsan Abbas of Pakistan:
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:16 AM, ahsan abbas < > wrote:
>
>
>
> I can show you many many pics of Hindus burning the holy Quran. Can any one PLEASE show me a single picture of Hindus burning their own book ?
>
> I can show you thousands of pics of Israrils oppression against Muslims. Can any body PLEASE send me a single picture of Jews killing the Jews ?
>
> I can give you hundreds of examples of Americans, oppresing the Muslims. Can any body PLEASE show me a single example of Americans killing the Americans in name of Christianity ?
>
> If you cannot, please come to me I will show something:
>
> Muslims are beheading Muslims in the name of Islam.
>
> Muslims are attacking the Mosques for the sake of Allah.
>
> Muslims are burning the schools to spread Islam.
>
> Muslims are doing suicidal attacks on hospitals to serve the humanity.
>
> Muslims are kidnapping school children to
> enforce the shariah.
>
> Oh No what you are saying ??? They cant be regarded as Muslims.They are beasts.
>
> DO NOT SAY THIS OTHERWISE YOU TOO WILL BE REGARDED AS INFIDEL(KAFIR) . These people
> are "Mujahideen- e-Islam" and doing all this "to defeat the America"
>
> Subhan Allah..... You see what a great logic it is.
>
> It is due to this marvelous logic, the Muslims are being beaten all over the world.
>
> These brave, sincere and true Mujahideen did a self proclaimed 9/11, successfully managed an attack on Afghanistan and Iraq and now striving to do the same with Atomic Pakistan.
>
> Could we still not decide who is the worse? Zionists, racist Hindus or our Mjahideen ?
>
>
> Love
>
> Ahsan
>
>
> From: m_musa92870@ yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:53:36 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general election in Bangladesh
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> If a morally bankrupt person calls me intellectually bankrupt, I take it as complement. Thank you. Why don't you provide us some facts (including dates) and reasoning what MOSAD did in Bangladesh since you have case against them? As far as deviating from the subject, I can accuse you of the same. You could not provide any justifications for the lies and broken promises of those pseudo-Islamic parties to EC during their previous visits. Sorry I cannot call somebody Islamic for hypocrisy. If they are like all the other non-religious political parties, why do they use Islam in pursuing their worldly goals? Why do they deceive us with their outward religious appearances? I wanted to say lying is very little sin compared to what these religious frauds are capable of doing without any hesitation. Sorry
> that of type of accusation hurts you personally. I was not aware of that.
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000 " <ahsan_mohammed2000@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
> >
> > I requested you to provide your analysis with facts and reasoning,
> > however, you preferred to express your one-eyed views only. Many
> > quarters might be involved in influencing Bangladesh politics. We
> > should discuss their roles and interests objectively instead of being
> > supportive to any specific one. Why are you trying to portray some
> > people as supporters of some agencies? I am a Bangladeshi (and you
> > are too, I suppose) and we should uphold the interest of the nation,
> > not of other countries. You mentioned about CIA, what about others
> > (e.g. RAW, MOSAD)? What do you think about them?
> >
> > Constantly deviating from the point of discussion to another specific
> > one is a kind of
> intellectual bankruptcy. It reminds me of a famous
> > joke. A clever boy sat in exam. He memorised an essay on cows but
> > the question paper asked him to write an essay on a river. He
> > started. "There was a river. A cow was gazing on its bank. A cow
> > has two eyes ... "
> >
> > How logical is it to make indecent remarks on someone on the ground
> > that people of the same party did something which was not decent? An
> > Awami League leader celebrated rape century in Jahangirnagar
> > University. Should it be reflected while EC makes remark on Sheikh
> > Hasina?
> >
> > Regarding some Islamic parties position on registration in EC, you
> > know that it is not new in our politics to change their demands at
> > different stages of negotiations. Will you kindly mention what was
> > AL's position
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Ahsan Mohammed
> >
> >
> >
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Ahsan Mohammed,
> > >
> > > My problem was your exclusion of ISI, the worst of the foreign
> > > intelligence services in our area. To me that was not honesty.
> > That
> > > doesn't mean that I excluded the others. Especially how can I
> > exclude
> > > CIA who was involved in killing Bangabandhu and other top national
> > > leaders and installing army backed nationalist force in
> > Bangladesh? How
> > > can I ignore CIA's direct and indirect contribution in return and
> > > revival of war criminals in Bangladesh?
> > >
> > > If supporting lying and hypocrisy of people from Al Badr background
> > are
> > > part of your socio-cultural background, that I have noting to say.
> > And
> > > of course, you also can consider what these
> so-called pseudo-Islamic
> > > leaders did in 1971 as very decent, but to me they are just
> > savages.
> > > You live with your views and I have nothing to say.
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar.
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000 "
> > > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
> > > >
> > > > I do not understand how you deduced that I read only right-wing
> > > > Bangladeshi newspapers? I have not quoted from any newspaper or
> > > > mentioned any piece of news. I have presented my own analysis of
> > > > some facts. If you have any difference of opinion about any
> > specific
> > > > point, please mention it. I also do not understand why you are
> > > > defending RAW, MOSAD and CIA. Other
> intelligence agencies might
> > also
> > > > be interested in BD politics. If you have any analysis about it,
> > > > please mention it with reasons. If you think that RAW, MOSAD and
> > CIA
> > > > has no interest in BD politics, please also provide your logic
> > behind
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Decency and indecency varies from person to person and has
> > relation
> > > > with the socio-cultural background of someone. If you think that
> > > > CEC's remarks on some Islamic parties were decent, then it is your
> > > > view and I have nothing to say.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards..
> > > >
> > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr.
> Ahsan Mohammed,
> > > > >
> > > > > May be you are only reading the right-wing Bangladeshi
> > newpapers.
> > > > If
> > > > > you read the other papers, you will find more conspiracies. You
> > > > will
> > > > > find many who consider this current CTG as Jamaat's B team. This
> > > > CTG
> > > > > has been extraordinarily soft on Jamaat and other religious
> > > > fanatics and
> > > > > extremists. Look at the joke and circus regarding Al Badr co-
> > chief
> > > > > Mujahid's arrest. While people like you always smell RAW, MOSSAD
> > > > and
> > > > > CIA conspiracies, there are lot more people who smell CIA, ISI
> > and
> > > > > Wahabi conspiracies. It goes both ways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your article in Naya Diganta presents only right-wing view
>
> > points
> > > > and it
> > > > > cannot be accepted as fair and balanced piece. ISI is one of the
> > > > top
> > > > > players in Indian subcontinent. They are behind many subversive
> > > > acts.
> > > > > They created Talibans and hence aided Al Qaeda. To leave them
> > out
> > > > from
> > > > > your equation strongly suggest, you are pushing right-wing
> > agenda.
> > > > You
> > > > > mentioned in your article that since BNP's leadership is trying
> > to
> > > > > negotiate with CTG, they didn't protest CEC's very indecent
> > > > > comments on the pseudo-Islamic partners of BNP. May be you can
> > > > teach us
> > > > > what kind of decent words the CEC should have used for their
> > > > outright
> > > > > lies. Let me make another very
> indecent and rude comment about
> > > > these
> > > > > mullahs - these mullahs actively and enthusiastically
> > participated
> > > > in
> > > > > all sorts of heinous war crimes in 1971. Regards-
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000 "
> > > > > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Alochok Ezajur,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is good to know that there are enlightened and powerful
> > elites
> > > > who
> > > > > > welcome conspiracies against their motherland apparently
> > because,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > â€Å"You can’t ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > > You
> can’t ensure there won’t be any rioting or
> > > deaths at
> > > > > the election.
> > > > > > You can’t ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > > You can’t ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > > You can’t ensure that kickbacks from government contracts
> > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > spotted.
> > > > > > You can’t ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> > > politicians. .
> > > > > > You can’t ensure that politicians will refrain from rabble
> > > > > rousing.
> > > > > > You can’t ensure that MPs won’t financially benefit
> > > from
> > > > > crooked
> > > > > > manpower agents.�
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can Indians
> ensure the above-mentioned checklist? If they are
> > > > happy
> > > > > > with their spoiled democracy, then why aren’t we?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How logical is it to welcome military rule or foreign
> > intervention
> > > > > > because democracy has not yet got sufficient time to
> > flourish? Who
> > > > > > ruled the country most of the time after its independence,
> > > > democratic
> > > > > > forces or military rulers with or without uniform?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The notion that Americans and others can buy anything they
> > want
> > > > seems
> > > > > > to be an oversimplified assumption. If it were true, then the
> > > > world
> > > > > > would not have so many wars and troubles. Moreover, sometimes
> > > >
> buying
> > > > > > things might involve very high value. The more we welcome
> > > > > > conspiracies, the more we become ready to sell ourselves (not
> > > > > > personal, saying in general).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "Ezajur Rahman"
> > ezajur.rahman@
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Alcohok Ahsan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is indeed very well written. But I am not remotely
> > bothered
> > > > by
> > > > > > > conspiracies.
> > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In fact I welcome them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure there won't be any rioting or deaths at the
> > > > > > election.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure that kickbacks from government contracts
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > > spotted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > You can't ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> > politicians.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure that politicians will refrain from rabble
> > > > rousing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure that MPs won't financially benefit from
> > crooked
> > > > > > > manpower agents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can't ensure jack****.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But let's talk about how to stop foreign conspiracies! Woah!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bhai -
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It takes 3 ISI agents only to manage Pakistan's interests
> > > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It takes 2 RAW agents only to manage India's interests in
> > > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And it is just a wet dream that the Americans, Brits,
> > Chinese
> > > > etc
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > working hard to subvert the elections.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why should they even bother? They can buy anything they
> > want...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The common masses cannot do anything until the common
> > masses can
> > >
> > > > > successfully demand real change in our politics.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The biggest conspiracy in Bangladesh is the perpetuation of
> > > > family
> > > > > > > politics by mid level AL and BNP supporters who just love to
> > > > pretend
> > > > > > > they are very flexible, agenda free, reasonable people.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any conspiracy that undermines the election of Hasina and
> > > > Khaleda
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > undermines the baboons of the AL and BNP central committees
> > is
> > > > > > welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know
> where I can make a donation...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We can't build a boat to carry 200 people safely in 2008
> > but we
> > > > sure
> > > > > > > kicked the 5th Fleet back to the USA back in 1971 didn't we!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nothing personal Ahsan - your piece was excellently
> > written. I'm
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > ranting...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Ahsan Mohammad vai
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very well written analysis. Though there is no way of
> > knowing
> > > > for
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > that such incidents will take place, but many indications
> > are
> > > > > > pointing
> > > > > > > towards that.
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What can we, the common mass, do?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:27 AM, alochona@yahoogroup s.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For a Better Bangladesh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona; _ylc=X3oDMTJkMnF qamtpBF9TAzk3M
> > > > > > zU
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > > AR
> > > > > > > zdGltZQMxMjIzOTY5Mj I2>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Messages In This Digest (1 Message)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general election in
> > Bangladesh
> > > > > > > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona/ pending#1# 1> From:
> > Ahsan
> > > > > > > Mohammed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > View All Topics
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona/ messages; _ylc=X3oDMTJmNWx mZ3U5
> > > > > >
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> > > >
> > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona/ post;_ylc= X3oDMTJmcmoyNm4z BF9T
> > > > > > Az
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Message
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general election in
> > Bangladesh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona/ message/11038; _ylc=X3oDMTJyMmo
> > > > > > 5a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Posted by: "Ahsan Mohammed" ahsan_mohammed2000@
> > > > > > > <mailto:ahsan_ mohammed2000@ ?Subject= %20Re%3AUpcoming %
> >
> 20conspira
> > > > > > > cies%20surrounding% 20general% 20election% 20in%20Banglades h>
> > > > > > > ahsan_mohammed2000
> > > > <http://profiles. yahoo.com/ ahsan_mohammed20 00>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:13 pm (PDT)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Members,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Although the Chief Advisor and other members of the interim
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > > are trying to ensure through their speeches that the general
> > > > > > election
> > > > > > > will be held in December 2008 and power will be handed over
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > elected representatives of
> people, doubts and fears are
> > > > spreading
> > > > > > due to
> > > > > > > some activities of the ruling quarter. I tried to analyse
> > the
> > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > conspiracies and strategies of various players involved in
> > > > > > influencing
> > > > > > > Bangladesh politics in my article published in Daily Naya
> > > > Diganta
> > > > > > and is
> > > > > > > available at the following link:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.dailynay adiganta. com/2008/ 10/13/fullnews. asp?
> > > > > > News_ID=108371&s
> > > > > > > ec=6
> > > > > > > <http://www.dailynay adiganta. com/2008/ 10/13/fullnews. asp?
> > > > > > News_ID=108371&
> > > > >
> > > sec=6>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ article.php? ID=336
> > > > > > > <http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ article.php? ID=336>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will highly appreciate if you kindly share your views on
> > this
> > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
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