RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?

Re: musa
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AL has done the  most damage to Bdeshi community, in the past 37 yrs.....they need more pressure to give accountabilty of their misdeeds....I do talk about other thugs + morons as well!!
pay more attention...in the future.
how much u have benefited from AL+BNP CHORS?
why u get sensitive, over-reactive whenever someone talks about corrupt politicians?
Has any group/ court/ politicians exposed corrution in Bdesh...other than CTG?

dr. maqsud omar

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> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> From: m_musa92870@yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:27:59 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be muffled for the election?
>
>
> But all-time one-sided bashing of AL does sound like BKTREETA/ FALTU
> CHAPA BAJEE.
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, maqsud omaba <maqsudo@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > re: masud
> > --------------
> >
> > i am happy that I have contributed to Badeshi community
> ...something...in the past 30 yrs.......
> >
> > have you?
> >
> > I beleive in personal contribution...little by little, i dont beleive
> in BKTREETA/ FALTU CHAPA BAJEE.
> >
> > khoda hafez.
> >
> > dr. maqsud omar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > From: sonarbangla08@...
> > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:16:37 -0800
> > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be
> muffled for the election?
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Re: Dr. Maqsud
> >
> > Dr. Maqsud:
> >
> > Some of your reactions to others are quite pointed and full of anger.
> I wonder by unleashing your anger without having to justify our reasons
> in a reserved manner would do any good to anyone to influence anyone's
> opinions or beliefs. Either you have a Ph.D. or you are a medical doctor
> and as such you are, no doubt, highly educated. Perhaps, it would help,
> if nothing else, to channel our anger in a constructive manner.
> >
> > All these discussions here do very little to actually do something
> good to our country, which we need right now.
> >
> > Why don't we really do something for our country to meke it better and
> not resort to our endless bickering about who did what, who was what.
> >
> > Masud
> > Seattle
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/19/08, maqsud omaba maqsudo@... wrote:
> >
> > From: maqsud omaba maqsudo@...
> > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be
> muffled for the election?
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 10:28 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > re: AL thugs of 1971
> > ------------ --------
> >
> > no...no....not every body, who fought in liberation war were
> thugs...some were.
> >
> > Zia is one of the brightest star in our short history, a powerful
> general and president who did not allow his family + relatives
> > to benefit in any form/manner/ way.
> >
> > An honest person, who did not steal 1 Tk. from anybody/ anywhere.
> >
> > A man with vision, who spent hours with ordinary people in the country
> side.
> >
> > A true patriot who worked hard to improve the quality of life for
> common men/women.
> >
> > A dedicated soldier, who left home, leaving behind his family, to lead
> the liberation force.
> >
> > He was not a moron, like many many present /past AL politicians.
> >
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > dr. maqsud omar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: m_musa92870@ yahoo.com
> > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:39:57 +0000
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be
> muffled for the election?
> >
> > Re: M. Omar
> > "the style of AL thugs in 1971"? …. I think by saying this you
> have truly exposed yourself. It reminds me of the crooked BNP-Jamaat
> politicians who are now questioning the election result of 1970. So all
> our leaders (including many currently in BNP and JP) in 1971, soldiers
> including Ziaur Rahman, and muktijoddhas were either AL thugs or blindly
> followed the AL thugs according to your ridiculous and outrageous
> statement. Do you remember the munafiqs during the prophets (SA) time?
> They were
> > the ones who outwardly declared shahada and assured the Muslims that
> they were with them, but during the time of need worked against the
> Muslims. Jamaat did exactly the same. They didn't just have different
> political opinions about the liberation war, they fought against the
> freedom fighters. They thought the Pak army was going to win. They
> formed paramilitary terrorist organization with the help of Pakistani
> military. They killed and raped civilians, and aided the Pakistani army
> in doing the same. They are the ones who planned and carried out the
> intellectual murders in Dec, 1971. Just reading their newspaper Daily
> Sangram from Mar 26 thru Dec 16, 1971 will give you some idea. No matter
> how twisted way you defend them, the stench of your argument won't sway
> the public sentiment.
> >
> > Most of the people (except the so called grass roots activists of the
> political parties) in Bangladesh want to see the corrupt politicians in
> jail. Nobody is denying the damages done by all the political parties
> over the years. But they also want the trial for war crimes committed by
> Jamaat's top leadership simultaneously. As Mr. Cyrus put it very nicely,
> there are two different issues here. Honestly speaking, both need to be
> addressed. But based on your argument we should only focus on BNP, JP
> and AL, and leave Jamaat alone. As far as I remember from your past
> writings, you still grumble about the 1972-1975 AL period. Is 1971 too
> far from 1972?
> > In addition to 1971 war crimes, Jamaat jointly ruled the country with
> BNP from 2001–2006. How many of the wrong things and corruption
> cases that happened during that period did Jamaat protest? Zero. Did
> they resign from the government or did they even contemplate doing that?
> Nope. Just read any newspaper during that period. Jamaat
> enthusiastically defended every action of BNP. Why wouldn't they? They
> were part of that government too. The number of one enemy of Islam are
> the people who have outward religious appearance and activities, but
> whose evil actions and words turn others away from Islam.
> > The same corrupt and gutless
> > politicians will keep coming back, because Jamaat showed them how to
> get away with vicious crimes. And people like you make it even easier,
> because the corrupt politicians know there are people out there who will
> support or defend them no matter what.
> > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, maqsud omaba maqsudo@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Re: cyrus
> > > ------------ -
> > >
> > >
> > > many thanks...for your well-written, to the point letter.
> > >
> > > i am not prepared to accept the fact that people who critisizes
> Jamaat, equally critisized other corrupt politicians. ....that hasn't
> been my experience.
> > >
> > > The magnitude of colourful criticism of Jamaat acclerated.. ...when
> the CTG was trying to expose some of the top AL, BNP politicians + other
> > > corrupt elements!
> > What a co-incidence! ...Is it not a " smoke screen"
> > >
> > > If you truly understand the process of democracy and want to
> practise that.......why do you want to attack anybody/everybody ...who
> has different opinion about our leadership during liberation war, who
> preferred independence through other means, who did not like the style
> of AL thugs
> > > in 1971, who nourishes different political views than you do?!
> > >
> > > You have totally avoided making comments about my Q.......how much
> damages Jamaat has caused,,,, and how much damages AL, BNP and others
> > > contributed in the past ?
> > >
> > > AL, BNP +other corrupt politicians have created a society.....
> .where violence, corruption, immorality are beyond control now.
> > > who will fix sickness in our community now? How?
> > >
> > > Can you please explain...why we need to bring ..the same
> corrupt,gut- less politicians. .. back to power again?
> > >
> > >
> > Why have you concluded... that I think I am the only good guy to
> contribute to the community!!
> > >
> > > I didn't.
> > >
> > > We should spend more time + energy to fix our problems in Bdesh and
> take positive steps to create a CLEAN, DEDICATED, CARING society....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: thoughtocrat@ ...
> > > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:21:47 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be
> muffled for the election?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Omar:
> > >
> > > I think you are mixing up two issues here. One is Jamaat's past,
> it's well-known opposition to our independence and sovereignty, and its
> destructive and extremist activities that is contrary to the secular
> constitution that we hold true. It is about Jamaat's unrepentance, and
> > the justice that was never delivered on behalf of the people. The
> other issues is AL, BNP, JP, et. al. who have bankrupted this country
> through corruption, misdeeds, violence, and failed policies. The two
> issues are not the same.
> > >
> > > Sir, it is also careless to say that people who advocate against
> Jamaat are "either naive/paid agents/or simply stupid". I personally
> take offense in your comment, as I write frequently against
> Jamaat.....as well as against AL, BNP, JP and their moral bankruptcy. I
> suggest that you read the past postings of those who speak against
> Jamaat, and I am sure you would find that most of them also speak
> against the maladies of our current political atmosphere.
> > >
> > > No one has ever suggested that if one is a proud and pious muslim,
> one is automatically a fanatic or jamaat supporter. On the same note, no
> one has tried to create "smoke screens" for AL, BNP, JP et. al. It is a
> discourse, whether you like it or
> > not, and we all are entitled to our opinions as well as our political
> convictions.
> > >
> > > I am always skeptical about self-proclaimed "contributors" to
> Bangladeshi community, both in BD and abroad. But I am glad that you
> find solace in your work for the community, and I am sure the community
> appreciates it too. But, it is rather naive and narcissistic to assume
> that you are the only who contributes to the betterment of the
> community, and those who write here against Jamaat do not. As far as I
> can tell, you have no knowledge of the background of frequent writers
> here, including Ms. Farida Majid, and I doubt that you have examined
> whether these people have made any positive contribution to our
> community everywhere. Lastly, your comment about "paid agent" is
> irresponsible and has the ring of "McCarthyism" , and in our context
> those labels show lack of judgment on your part.
> > >
> > > I look forward to your continued contribution to this
> > forum.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Cyrus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: maqsud omaba maqsudo@
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 2:22:41 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be
> muffled for the election?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ATTN. Farida Majid
> > > ------------ -----
> > >
> > > You and few other " elite intellectuals " often write about
> jamaat....their wrong philosophy, aggressive manners, cruel activities,
> etc.
> > >
> > > have you ever asked yourself, how much damage Jamaat has done...to
> Bangladesh; and how much damage AL + BNP + ershad + beauracrats
> > > + politicians have caused since Jan, 1972??
> > >
> > > The answer will be simple, clear and shattering.
> > >
> > > People like you , who are always yelling about Jamaat's destructive
> activities, are either naive / paid agents/ or
> > simple stupid.
> > > It is time for you to wake up and write more constructive items on
> Bdeshi issues.
> > >
> > > Blaming Jamaat for all the Bdeshi mess will not be useful. sending
> few more corrupt officials + politicians to prison may be more
> therapeutic and helpful.
> > >
> > > I am a proud muslim, not a fanatic, not a Jamaat supporter. But i
> dont enjoy creating " smoke screen" on behalf of crooked + corrupt
> > > AL +
> > > BNP politicians.
> > >
> > > It is time to reassess your style and contribute more to the Bdeshi
> community... . I do.
> > >
> > > khoda hafez.
> > >
> > > dr. maqsud omar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: farida_majid@ hotmail.com
> > > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:09 -0400
> > > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Will Bangladesh Jamaat's killing spree be
> muffled for the election?
> > >
> >
> > > Blame it all on RAW/MOSAD. Do we have instances of Indian BJP/Sangh
> Parivar engaged in mass killing of Hindus? Do the Zionists habitually
> engage in murdering the Jew?
> > >
> > > How about our Jamaati Islami berathari toward fellow Muslims of
> Bangla land? Please read the followin note frm Ahsan Abbas of Pakistan:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:16 AM, ahsan abbas < > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can show you many many pics of Hindus burning the holy Quran. Can
> any one PLEASE show me a single picture of Hindus burning their own book
> ?
> > >
> > > I can show you thousands of pics of Israrils oppression against
> Muslims. Can any body PLEASE send me a single picture of Jews killing
> the Jews ?
> > >
> > > I can give you hundreds of examples of Americans, oppresing the
> Muslims. Can any body PLEASE show me a single example of Americans
> killing the Americans in name of Christianity ?
> > >
> > >
> > If you cannot, please come to me I will show something:
> > >
> > > Muslims are beheading Muslims in the name of Islam.
> > >
> > > Muslims are attacking the Mosques for the sake of Allah.
> > >
> > > Muslims are burning the schools to spread Islam.
> > >
> > > Muslims are doing suicidal attacks on hospitals to serve the
> humanity.
> > >
> > > Muslims are kidnapping school children to
> > > enforce the shariah.
> > >
> > > Oh No what you are saying ??? They cant be regarded as Muslims.They
> are beasts.
> > >
> > > DO NOT SAY THIS OTHERWISE YOU TOO WILL BE REGARDED AS INFIDEL(KAFIR)
> . These people
> > > are "Mujahideen- e-Islam" and doing all this "to defeat the America"
> > >
> > > Subhan Allah..... You see what a great logic it is.
> > >
> > > It is due to this marvelous logic, the Muslims are being beaten all
> over the world.
> > >
> > > These brave, sincere and true Mujahideen did a self
> > proclaimed 9/11, successfully managed an attack on Afghanistan and
> Iraq and now striving to do the same with Atomic Pakistan.
> > >
> > > Could we still not decide who is the worse? Zionists, racist Hindus
> or our Mjahideen ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Love
> > >
> > > Ahsan
> > >
> > >
> > > From: m_musa92870@ yahoo.com
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:53:36 +0000
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general
> election in Bangladesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If a morally bankrupt person calls me intellectually bankrupt, I
> take it as complement. Thank you. Why don't you provide us some facts
> (including dates) and reasoning what MOSAD did in Bangladesh since you
> have case against them? As far as deviating from the subject, I can
> accuse you of the same. You could not provide any justifications for the
> lies and broken promises of those pseudo-Islamic parties to EC during
> > their previous visits. Sorry I cannot call somebody Islamic for
> hypocrisy. If they are like all the other non-religious political
> parties, why do they use Islam in pursuing their worldly goals? Why do
> they deceive us with their outward religious appearances? I wanted to
> say lying is very little sin compared to what these religious frauds are
> capable of doing without any hesitation. Sorry
> > > that of type of accusation hurts you personally. I was not aware of
> that.
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000 "
> <ahsan_mohammed2000@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
> > > >
> > > > I requested you to provide your analysis with facts and reasoning,
> > > > however, you preferred to express your one-eyed views only. Many
> > > > quarters might be involved in influencing Bangladesh politics. We
> > > > should discuss their roles and interests objectively
> > instead of being
> > > > supportive to any specific one. Why are you trying to portray some
> > > > people as supporters of some agencies? I am a Bangladeshi (and you
> > > > are too, I suppose) and we should uphold the interest of the
> nation,
> > > > not of other countries. You mentioned about CIA, what about others
> > > > (e.g. RAW, MOSAD)? What do you think about them?
> > > >
> > > > Constantly deviating from the point of discussion to another
> specific
> > > > one is a kind of
> > > intellectual bankruptcy. It reminds me of a famous
> > > > joke. A clever boy sat in exam. He memorised an essay on cows but
> > > > the question paper asked him to write an essay on a river. He
> > > > started. "There was a river. A cow was gazing on its bank. A cow
> > > > has two eyes ... "
> > > >
> > > > How logical is it to make indecent remarks on someone on the
> ground
> > >
> > > that people of the same party did something which was not decent? An
> > > > Awami League leader celebrated rape century in Jahangirnagar
> > > > University. Should it be reflected while EC makes remark on Sheikh
> > > > Hasina?
> > > >
> > > > Regarding some Islamic parties position on registration in EC, you
> > > > know that it is not new in our politics to change their demands at
> > > > different stages of negotiations. Will you kindly mention what was
> > > > AL's position
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mr. Ahsan Mohammed,
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem was your exclusion of ISI, the worst of the foreign
> > > > > intelligence services in our
> > area. To me that was not honesty.
> > > > That
> > > > > doesn't mean that I excluded the others. Especially how can I
> > > > exclude
> > > > > CIA who was involved in killing Bangabandhu and other top
> national
> > > > > leaders and installing army backed nationalist force in
> > > > Bangladesh? How
> > > > > can I ignore CIA's direct and indirect contribution in return
> and
> > > > > revival of war criminals in Bangladesh?
> > > > >
> > > > > If supporting lying and hypocrisy of people from Al Badr
> background
> > > > are
> > > > > part of your socio-cultural background, that I have noting to
> say.
> > > > And
> > > > > of course, you also can consider what these
> > > so-called pseudo-Islamic
> > > > > leaders did in 1971 as very decent, but to me they are just
> > > > savages.
> > > > > You live with your views and I
> > have nothing to say.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000 "
> > > > > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Mr. Mohammad Musa Sarkar,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not understand how you deduced that I read only
> right-wing
> > > > > > Bangladeshi newspapers? I have not quoted from any newspaper
> or
> > > > > > mentioned any piece of news. I have presented my own analysis
> of
> > > > > > some facts. If you have any difference of opinion about any
> > > > specific
> > > > > > point, please mention it. I also do not understand why you are
> > > > > > defending RAW, MOSAD and CIA. Other
> > > intelligence agencies might
> > > > also
> > >
> > > > > be interested in BD politics. If you have any analysis about it,
> > > > > > please mention it with reasons. If you think that RAW, MOSAD
> and
> > > > CIA
> > > > > > has no interest in BD politics, please also provide your logic
> > > > behind
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Decency and indecency varies from person to person and has
> > > > relation
> > > > > > with the socio-cultural background of someone. If you think
> that
> > > > > > CEC's remarks on some Islamic parties were decent, then it is
> your
> > > > > > view and I have nothing to say.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mr.
> > > Ahsan Mohammed,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > May be you are only reading the right-wing Bangladeshi
> > > > newpapers.
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > > you read the other papers, you will find more conspiracies.
> You
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > find many who consider this current CTG as Jamaat's B team.
> This
> > > > > > CTG
> > > > > > > has been extraordinarily soft on Jamaat and other religious
> > > > > > fanatics and
> > > > > > > extremists. Look at the joke and circus regarding Al Badr
> co-
> > > > chief
> > > > > > > Mujahid's arrest. While people like you always smell RAW,
> MOSSAD
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > CIA conspiracies, there are lot more people who smell CIA,
> ISI
> >
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Wahabi conspiracies. It goes both ways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your article in Naya Diganta presents only right-wing view
> > >
> > > > points
> > > > > > and it
> > > > > > > cannot be accepted as fair and balanced piece. ISI is one of
> the
> > > > > > top
> > > > > > > players in Indian subcontinent. They are behind many
> subversive
> > > > > > acts.
> > > > > > > They created Talibans and hence aided Al Qaeda. To leave
> them
> > > > out
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > your equation strongly suggest, you are pushing right-wing
> > > > agenda.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > mentioned in your article that since BNP's leadership is
> trying
> > > > to
> > > > > > > negotiate with CTG, they didn't protest
> > CEC's very indecent
> > > > > > > comments on the pseudo-Islamic partners of BNP. May be you
> can
> > > > > > teach us
> > > > > > > what kind of decent words the CEC should have used for their
> > > > > > outright
> > > > > > > lies. Let me make another very
> > > indecent and rude comment about
> > > > > > these
> > > > > > > mullahs - these mullahs actively and enthusiastically
> > > > participated
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > all sorts of heinous war crimes in 1971. Regards-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "ahsan_mohammed2000 "
> > > > > > > <ahsan_mohammed2000@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear Alochok Ezajur,
> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is good to know that there are enlightened and powerful
> > > > elites
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > welcome conspiracies against their motherland apparently
> > > > because,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > â€Å"You can’t ensure clean candidates
> for the election.
> > > > > > > > You
> > > can’t ensure there won’t be any rioting or
> > > > > deaths at
> > > > > > > the election.
> > > > > > > > You can’t ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > > > > You can’t ensure that family politics will be
> removed.
> > > > > > > > You can’t ensure that kickbacks from
> government contracts
> > > >
> > > will
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > spotted.
> > > > > > > > You can’t ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh
> by
> > > > > politicians..
> > > > > > > > You can’t ensure that politicians will refrain
> from rabble
> > > > > > > rousing.
> > > > > > > > You can’t ensure that MPs won’t
> financially benefit
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > crooked
> > > > > > > > manpower agents.�
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can Indians
> > > ensure the above-mentioned checklist? If they are
> > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > with their spoiled democracy, then why aren’t
> we?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How logical is
> > it to welcome military rule or foreign
> > > > intervention
> > > > > > > > because democracy has not yet got sufficient time to
> > > > flourish? Who
> > > > > > > > ruled the country most of the time after its independence,
> > > > > > democratic
> > > > > > > > forces or military rulers with or without uniform?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The notion that Americans and others can buy anything they
> > > > want
> > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > to be an oversimplified assumption. If it were true, then
> the
> > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > would not have so many wars and troubles. Moreover,
> sometimes
> > > > > >
> > > buying
> > > > > > > > things might involve very high value. The more we welcome
> > > > > > > >
> > conspiracies, the more we become ready to sell ourselves (not
> > > > > > > > personal, saying in general).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ahsan Mohammed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "Ezajur Rahman"
> > > > ezajur.rahman@
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear Alcohok Ahsan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is indeed very well written. But I am not remotely
> > > > bothered
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > conspiracies.
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In fact I welcome them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure clean candidates for the election.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure there won't be any rioting or deaths at
> the
> > > > > > > > election.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure clean MPs or clean Ministers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure that family politics will be removed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure that kickbacks from government
> contracts
> > > > will
> > > >
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > > spotted.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > You can't ensure a proper vision of Bangladesh by
> > > > politicians.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure that politicians will refrain from
> rabble
> > > > > > rousing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure that MPs won't financially benefit from
> > > > crooked
> > > > > > > > > manpower agents.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You can't ensure jack****.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But let's talk about
> > how to stop foreign conspiracies! Woah!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bhai -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It takes 3 ISI agents only to manage Pakistan's
> interests
> > > > > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It takes 2 RAW agents only to manage India's interests
> in
> > > > > > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And it is just a wet dream that the Americans, Brits,
> > > > Chinese
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > working hard to subvert the elections.
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why should they even bother? They can buy anything they
> > > > want...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The common masses cannot do anything until the common
> > > > masses can
> > > > >
> > > > > > > successfully demand real change in our politics.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The biggest conspiracy in Bangladesh is the perpetuation
> of
> > > > > > family
> > > > > > > > > politics by mid level AL and BNP supporters who just
> love to
> > > > > > pretend
> > > > > > > > > they are very flexible, agenda free, reasonable people.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any conspiracy that undermines the election of Hasina
> and
> > > > > > Khaleda
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > undermines the baboons of the AL and BNP central
> committees
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > welcome.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Let me know
> > > where I can make a donation...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We can't build a boat to carry 200 people safely in 2008
> > > > but we
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > kicked the 5th Fleet back to the USA back in 1971 didn't
> we!
> > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nothing personal Ahsan - your piece was excellently
> > > > written. I'm
> > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > ranting...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear Ahsan Mohammad vai
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Very well written analysis. Though there is no way of
> > > > knowing
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > that such incidents will take place, but many
> indications
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > pointing
> > > > > > > > > towards that.
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > What can we, the common mass, do?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2008, at 9:27 AM, alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For a Better Bangladesh
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona; _ylc=X3oDMTJkMnF
> qamtpBF9TAzk3M
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> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Messages In This Digest (1 Message)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Upcoming conspiracies surrounding general election in
> > > > Bangladesh
> > > > > > > > > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/alochona/ pending#1# 1>
> From:
> > > > Ahsan
> > > > > > > > > Mohammed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > View All Topics
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > Bangladesh
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Ahsan Mohammed" ahsan_mohammed2000@
> > > > > > > > > <mailto:ahsan_ mohammed2000@ ?Subject= %20Re%3AUpcoming
> %
> > > >
> > > 20conspira
> > > > > > > > > cies%20surrounding% 20general% 20election%
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> > > > > > > > > ahsan_mohammed2000
> > > > > > <http://profiles. yahoo.com/ ahsan_mohammed20 00>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:13 pm (PDT)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Although the Chief Advisor and other members of the
> interim
> > > > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > > are trying to ensure through their speeches that the
> general
> > > > > > > > election
> > > > > > > > > will be held in December 2008 and power will be handed
> over
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > elected representatives of
> > > people, doubts and fears are
> > > > > > spreading
> > > > > > > > due to
> > > > > > > > > some activities of the ruling quarter. I tried to
> analyse
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > > > conspiracies and strategies of various players involved
> in
> > > > > > > > influencing
> > > > > > >
> > > > Bangladesh politics in my article published in Daily Naya
> > > > > > Diganta
> > > > > > > > and is
> > > > > > > > > available at the following link:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dailynay adiganta. com/2008/ 10/13/fullnews.
> asp?
> > > > > > > > News_ID=108371&s
> > > > > > > > > ec=6
> > > > > > > > > <http://www.dailynay adiganta. com/2008/ 10/13/fullnews.
> asp?
> > > > > > > > News_ID=108371&
> > > > > > >
> > > > > sec=6>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ article.php? ID=336
> > > > > > > > > <http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ article.php? ID=336>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > I will highly appreciate if you kindly share your views on
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best regards.
> > > > > > > > >
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