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Tuesday, January 8, 2008

[vinnomot] Arabism, crazy CIA & Moron, Bush

My comments are inserted below.

"Virginia F. Raines" <virginiaf.raines@gmail.com> wrote:

Very sorry about Mr. Haider's experience.
 
Okay, I mistook your comment to mean that Ghinwa was a Hariri, but I see now you only meant that she was from Lebanon, in connection to BB's own ancestry.  Obviously the animosity had deep dimensions, with the hostile accusations that Zardari was responsible for Murtaza's death.
 
I apparently also misunderstood the "BA" requirement.  I've seen that term mentioned several times previously and just assumed it meant Bachelor's degree, even though the blurb about Ghinwa taking the exams didn't exactly fit -- I didn't spend enough time on it.  BB also stated during an interview that "everyone knows I went to Harvard" but Musharraf didn't have a college degree, which made him unfit for to even run for office (?)  Disqualified to be elected?  (When I first saw that remark before, I thought it was just a snooty comment.)
 
TURKMAN: I don't think, Benazir had a 4 year college degree form Oxford, Cambridge of Harvard. If she did from any University in U.K., it would be surprising for me because it was not celebrated by his father at any point despite custom of Pakistan. I know for sure, she had gone to Harvard for a Lecture Course on Foreign Policy, which required no Test. It was just a Lecture. She didn't get any Bachelor's Degree from Harvard and Harvard would confirm this. Pres. Musharraf had gone to elite Sandhurst Military Academy of U.K. and had graduated there. Its considered way above a 4 year College Degree in Pakistan, where even University Master's Degree Holders can't speak English and write correct sentences in their Job Applications. I had no knowledge that Ghinwa Bhutto had graduated. Arabic was her mother tongue therefore, she was way above even Caliber of Examiners of Arabic Papers in Pakistan. Hardly any Examiners in Pakistan can speak French or know enough French and French is like 2nd language for Lebanese since Official Language of Lebanon even after French Rule ended, was French and may still be. Beirut was the richest city of Arab World before Palestinian Refugees turned Moslims in to a majority and started causing all the destruction by their bombings and Terrorism. It was the Stage Drama Capital of the world thanks to local French. The Stages were built in such a way that if they had to show a person on a Bicycle or in a car traveling a block of a city street, stage moved at the same speed as the bike or car and that was happening in late 1950's. Lebanon was a Christian Country and Moslims used to be a minority but were given equal rights since Arabs used to believe in Arab-ism and were not enslaved yet by Islamist Extremists in those days because of Moslim Arab Socialists and Christian Communists. CIA covert Policies in the Middle East killed the Arab Socialists and Christian Communists giving open field to Islamic Extremists because in those days CIA used to think that Religion was the best 'Deterrent' to Communism. What a great theory that was, now you know, when descendants or followers of the same Islamists that were receiving salaries from CIA in those days strike cities of in the West. The biggest laugh of all was CIA's providing a Sanctuary to Ayatollah Khomeini in France and delivering him his salary every month. Oh the stupid nuts, who ran USA's Foreign Policy unchecked for decades ...! Not to forget that Bush is not only a nut but he is also a Moron.     
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Thursday, August 23, 2007
Ghinwa Bhutto passes in first division
 LAHORE: Ghinwa Bhutto, wife of late Murtaza Bhutto and chairwoman of PPP-SB, has passed the BA exams from PU in first division with 526 marks. Ghinwa, roll # 86604, appeared as a private candidate, to be eligible to contest elections. Ghinwa chose to take the PU BA exam because the results were to be declared by the end of August, before the elections. She took journalism, French and Arabic. In an interview with Daily Times (April 6) during the exam, Ghinwa said the Islamic Studies paper was difficult. She said the exam let her learn about the internal dynamics of the education system. She stayed at PPP-SB (Punjab) president Dr Mubashir Hassan's house in Gulberg, during the exams. Party leaders and workers have congratulated Ghinwa on her success. staff report

 
The BA is mentioned several times in this report:
 
Election tribunal allows Ex-MPA to contest election PDF Print E-mail
LAHORE, Dec 8 (APP): An election tribunal of Lahore High Court allowed former MPA Amanat Ali Virk to contest election from NA-100, Gujranwala. The RO had rejected his papers on the ground that being the member of Punjab assembly, he committed corruption.
Tribunal rejected appeal against a PML-N candidate Intisar Hussain Bhatti and allowed him to contest election for national assembly seat NA-103.
Applicant PML-Q candidate and ex-MNA Liaqat Abbas Bhatti alleged that Intisar was held disqualified by the university when appearing in BA exams for Intisar Bhatti apprehended another person. He said that the RO was not right in his decision to accept the nomination papers of Intisar and he should be declared disqualified.
Applicant counsel Abid Saqi said that Intisar had valid degree and the applicant objection was unwarranted.
The tribunal accepted appeal of PPP candidate Malik Bashir Wassir for NA-76 and allowed him to contest the election. Against Wassir his opponent Rana Mohsin raised an objection before the RO that Bashir was an employee of the Pak army and on his absence from job for 28 days was removed from service on the charge of misconduct and on this objection the RO rejected his papers.
Malik Bashir said that he was reinstated in the army and was never removed on the basis of misconduct. He sought directions to the RO to accept his papers.
Tribunal dismissed an appeal against acceptance of nomination papers of MMA candidate Maulana Rehmat Ullah for PP-74. The rival candidate Haider Abbas moved this appeal in which he who pleaded that Maulana Rehmat's degree of a religious school was not equal to BA. He requested to declare the RO decision illegal of accepting the nomination papers of Maulana Rehmat.
Tribunal also accepted appeal of ex-MPA Syed Hassan Murtaza and held him eligible to contest election for Punjab assembly seat PP-74, Jhang.  The RO had rejected his nomination papers on the ground that the Punjab University (PU) had disqualified him.
Akhter Tarrar, advocate on behalf of applicant submitted that against the decision of PU Murtaza approached the civil court which accepted him contention and directed the university to issue degree. The PU moved appeal against this decision, which was also rejected.
He said the PU had issued result card to applicant on the basis of which he had contested the 2002 elections and now on the basis of same card the RO could not restraint him.   
Tribunal dismissed an appeal against Umar Farooq Dar a candidate for PP-122. Ex-MPA Arshad Baggu challenged the nomination of Umar on the ground that he (Umar) produced a fake BA degree of a university of Kohat.
The tribunal dismissed appeal of Sheikh Amjad Aziz and held him disqualified for contesting election for PP-156, Hafizabad. Earlier the RO rejected his paper as he was not a graduate.
Tribunal issued notice to the RO on an appeal of PML-Q candidate Mehmood Ali Raja for PP-31 for December 8. The RO had rejected his papers that before two years of his retirement from health department he was not eligible to participate in the election.
The tribunal on appeal of Azad Mehmood for NA-82, Faisalabad called reply from RO till December 11. The RO had rejected his nomination papers on the basis of educational qualification.
The tribunal sought reply from RO till December 11 on an appeal of PML-Q candidate Akhter Rasool for PP-122. The RO had rejected his papers as the apex court on contempt charges convicted him.
Tribunal issued notice for December 11 on appeal of Amina Jahangir who is candidate for women reserved seat. The RO did not accept her madrassa degree.
 
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On 1/7/08, S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
I don't know if Ghinwa is or not from Hariri Family. She is not much educated to the best of my knowledge.
 
Bachelor Degree to run in Elections in Pakistan?
I had written an article making fun of Literacy and General Knowledge in one of my article published in Daily Amn and people had started criticizing my articles that I make too much fun of everybody and out of everything, it was not right. I was not constructive.
 
After reading that complaint to the Editor, II had started giving my suggestions at the end of my articles on how to fix the problem that I made fun of. I had for the first time in History of Pakistan had proposed 4 year of College for all Public Offices.
 
Gov. of Sindh was Gen. Syed Moeen Haider, an Urdu Speaking, born in Lucknow, India. He was fan of a my writings and a friend of C-in-Chief Gen. Syed Pervaiz Musharraf but then, he was fired by Nawaz Sharif for being too honest, constructive and ordering a lot of reforms in the Govt. of Sindh. You see, corrupt in Pakistan stick together like a Union. Police, some Judges and some people in Bureacracy went on strike against him being too honest and stopping to let them make money illegally.
 
After Coup de tat, he was appointed Interior Minister by Musharraf and either enforced a lot of stuff that I had suggested in my articles or made Musharraf to pass them as laws. Then, he had an Assassination Attempt by JI people because he had started arresting a lot of JehaaDis all over Pakistan. Later, his brother was assassinated by them. That did it and he just quitted his Political Career after that. Pakistan never found another tough Interior Minister like him after that despite US later was spending billions to fight against JehaaDis. In his days, they could never go Suicide Bombing twice a week in Pakistan like they are now.  
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