Dear Saeed Bhai
I would like to thank you for your very engaging words. So many words
by others are simply wasted as propaganda posing as rationale.
The only thing that is important is what is right for the country. We
should even agree to disagree as long as we believe that the other is
sincere and trying their level best to reach the right conclusions.
Whether I can vote or not is not the real issue is it? The issue of
the interfering NRB is secondary (but I am happy to engage you on
it). The real question is who should one vote for? And this question,
which you have appropriately described as burning, remains
unanswered. I do not refer to you at all, but most critics of the CTG
glaringly avoid this question.
I don't care about Qureshi and I have never written about him.
Everyone should avoid him. I beg you please don't make easy
assumptions. Not everyone in AL is desperate for Hasina as PM. Not
everyone in BNP is desperate for Khaleda as PM. Not everyone who
supports the CTG is desperate for Qureshi as PM (how many want that?
300 people?). Qureshi will occupy 5 lines only in the fat history
books of this era as a mistaken tactic of the CTG.
Let us engage again when the election is held to discuss whether it
is free and fair. And if it is not then I will freely apologise to
you for my mistake. I assume you expect no apology from AL or BNP for
anything : ) Funny how some set higher standards for commentators than for PMs or MPs :)
Chamchas and brokers occupy most seats in the entourages of Hasina
and Khaleda. I am neither and I believe you are neither. Exaggeration
is a valid tool when stressing a point. Lying is never a valid tool. I am glad you used the word exaggerations and not the word lies. Therein lies the truth.
You seem surprised that Khaleda buys expensive jewellery on her
foreign trips. On what basis are you surprised? The poor market she
visited is I believe the gold souk behind the Sheraton. The expensive
market she visited is I believe the Salhiya Complex. I think the BNP
grandee Nazrul Islam Khan, the then Ambassador, would know about such things eh : )
You seem surprised that an AL Foreign Minister would encourage a
crowd to shout within the sober walls of the Hotel Sheraton. On what
basis are you surprised? I think the President and GS of the 2 AL
factions in Kuwait and the richest AL supporters would not lie about such things eh : )
Unlike Dhaka, in many cities a new flashy hotel does not
automatically usurp the prestige of an older, more venerable, hotel.
The Sheraton's prestige is not measured by the size of its pool or
the style of its lobby. Its prestige is measured by the most
expensive dining in Kuwait, the most prestigious location in Kuwait,
the most expensive Royal Suite in Kuwait, the greatest number of
State Functions, the greatest number of State Guests and the greatest
history.
Bhai, Oh bhai! Where did you find my objection to the slogan "Joy
Bangla"? The words are beautiful, the slogan is beautiful. We must
embrace it. But that doesn't mean that any crook who says it is
legitimized by it, that any party that doesn't apologise for anything
is protected by it and that you can say it anywhere, anytime and
anyway. You think I am offended by the slogan. But I am offended by
the offence given to the slogan.
It's no use Bhai talking about corruption in the Army, bureaucracy,
business and the general society (corruption is everywhere) – as long
as there is political corruption. The common man elects politicians
to fix the corruption. That's why the first priority is
politicians.
Please name the many innocents who should be freed from jail
immediately. There's no point fighting the mafia if the powers will
let the mafia back in. That is why this has always been a fight to
change the powers that be. And I suggest more people already know
this than your message implies. The mission critical politicians and
businessmen arrested number probably less than 200.
I'm no lawyer but I believe that there should be some culpability for those in power who allowed others to get away with robbery and murder – and benefited indirectly from them. It's okay to go after these people if they do not withdraw. It's okay to go after these people if they work to reinstate criminals.
Please name the people who should not be driven from the centre of
power. Then show me how they stood up for democracy and against
corruption – in their own party.
The CTG are indeed juggling. They won't be around much longer and I
suspect they don't want to be around much longer either. At some
stage people will not be able to amazingly dismiss the evil done AL
and BNP by a single line :
we know the two ladies are fighting but…
we know there is corruption but …
we know everyone is corrupt so…
followed by many lines against the CTG.
Would you like to compare the evil done by the CTG with the evil done
by AL and BNP? Why don't we start with AL and BNP MPs protecting
gangsters and acid throwers? What will you do – say the crimes of
elected politicians are the same as the crimes of unelected Army
goons?
Bhai. `One day they will answer to the people' is a luxurious line
used by many a sincere writer and many a crooked politician. The
common man doesn't believe it based on the evidence he has before
him.
I disagree fundamentally with your opinion of the state of our
institutions – including the judiciary. As if our institutions and
judiciary were something you were even remotely pleased with before.
They have at the least been shaken up and that is exactly what is
needed. Let us analyse an institution in detail – pick one.... It is
a gamble I am prepared to take. It is not a gamble you would have
taken in the last 15 years or, if you get your wish, in the next 5
year term either.
The election will happen – it is written in the stars. It always was.
And if Hasina or Khaleda return as PM I won't be filling your inbox
with my rubbish. I'll focus on making money the democratic way –
Bangladeshi style. Join in – a lot of anti CTG types will be having
fun too…
An unelected juggler is better than an elected smuggler. The sooner
AL and BNP realize the sooner they will be able to save the nation.
Best regards
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
<saeedurrehman92@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mr. Ejazur
>
> Let me start with your last question. You have posed a very burning
> question. You have asked that whom you should vote for in next
election,
> Hasina or Khaleda? With all due respect should I remind you that
like
> all NRB's you don't have any voting right. It may be very
> unfortunate but it is the reality. But there is not an iota of
doubt in
> my mind that given the opportunity, you will be voting for some
Qureshi
> or some Qazi Feroz of the King's party. However, there is still a
> very big if. IF there will be a FAIR election in Bangladesh.
>
> I have also read your narratives about Khaleda and Hasina's visits
> to Kuwait. For your very kind information, I happened to be in
Kuwait on
> both occasions. Sorry to say you that I don't feel myself honored
> and privileged for that. Your narratives are full of
exaggerations. I
> will not negate them one by one but still would like to know the
name of
> the market where Khaleda went for shopping jewelry. Were you part
of
> her entourage? If not how you know what she bought and what price
she
> paid for that?
>
> I still would like to know why you are so allergic to the slogan
> "Joy Bangla". It was the most popular slogan before and during
> liberation struggle of Bangladesh and may be still today. What
should I
> conclude from it? And by the way, Sheraton is not the most
prestigious
> hotel in Kuwait. There are many hotels there equal to or better than
> Sheraton.
>
> I cannot say if Fakhruddin or Moeenuddin are brave and courageous
> individuals. But I can say that with their audacity they have
pushed the
> country backwards. Damage done to the country in the last 15 months
is
> far more than the damage done in last 15 years. Name any institution
> including the judiciary which is on right path. First, they started
> arresting businessmen with any pre-thought and then they had to
retreat.
> Now they very haphazardly without thinking of the consequences are
> arresting the politicians. Granted our politicians are corrupt but
who
> in this society is not. If you think Army is not corrupt go and see
the
> defense purchases, go and see the Military Engineering Services. By
this
> mass arrest they have diluted the whole process of "Fight against
> Corruption." Right or wrong people in general have started building
> the concept that this is all game for the power.
>
> And let me tell you one thing. These jugglers will not be in power
for
> ever because nobody runs for ever. They will be answerable to the
nation
> one day. You know that History repeats itself with double the price.
>
>
>
> Saeed
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Saeed Bhai
> >
> > Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake his hand and
> > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you might be
thinking
> > for Hasina or Khaleda : )
> >
> > He is certainly not one of the greatest personalities on
> > earth but definitely one of the bravest in Bangladesh.
> >
> > The future does not belong to him or me. But it belongs to all of
us
> > who want a Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all that they
> represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the possibilty of that
> future exists only because of the courage of the CTG. Not because of
> anyone else or anything else.
> >
> > What is this apple polishing you speak of? What do you know about
> > real apple polishing? Look at what our people do with Hasina and
> > Khaleda - the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the malishing,
> > the thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking! We
could
> > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention that will
you.
> > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to talk about me and my
> > handshake.
> >
> > And what is this pity you feel? What do you know about real pity?
> > Where is your pity for our people who are made fools of by
> > politicians year after year with lie after lie? Where is your pity
> > for a democracy where democracy ONLY means that political
operatives
> > are allowed to do anything they want? Where is your pity for a
> > democracy where if you challenge the leader of your party your
house
> > gets burned down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable truths.
Far
> > easier to talk about me wishing the General well.
> >
> > You should wish him well too. For because of him the voter rolls
will
> > be more accurate than ever before. The voting booths will be more
> > secure than ever before. The vote count will be more legitimate
than
> > ever before. The voters will be safer than every before. Your
dream
> > will come true - you will have your free and fair election between
> > corrupt parties.
> >
> > I don't dream of a future where unelected, unaccountable officials
> > are forced to act because of the stupidity of elected
politicians. I
> > dream of a future where AL and BNP behave like proper democratic
> > parties in a modern Bangladesh. And the CTG has done more to
achieve
> > that than the Central Committees of AL or BNP. People who slam the
> > CTG and claim to be neutral never ever talk about AL and BNP. If
they
> > did then they would be really making a difference.
> >
> > Look at our country. Be honest. We have far more to pity than
Moeen
> > and Fakhruddin and dreamers like me.
> >
> > By the way - who do you think I should vote for? Hasina or
Khaleda?
> > Why? Convince me without insulting me : )
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > saeedurrehman92@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > >
> > > Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the biggest
> > > achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands after
shaking it
> > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must preserve the scent of him on
your
> > > hands. The future definitely belongs to you because you shaked
hands
> > > with one the greatest personality on earth.
> > >
> > > I really don't feel bad feel bad when I read a writing like
this.
> > Nice
> > > piece of apple polishing. I, however, feel pity for a nation in
> > which
> > > people like this exists.
> > >
> > > Saeed
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Alochoks
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking the
hand
> > of
> > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an official visit to Kuwait.
> > Whilst
> > > > he was largely surrounded by people who supported the CTG and
who
> > > > were showering him with their views I got the opportunity on
> > behalf
> > > > of all supporters of the CTG to wish him good health, long
life
> > and
> > > > continued success. He reiterated that the nation needed an
> > election
> > > > in December 2008.
> > > >
> > > > Moeen U Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I remain
> > defiantly
> > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that change is
possible.
> > > > Because of such men even politicians now believe that change
is
> > > > possible. That change, so desperately needed, must finally be
> > decided
> > > > by our politicians. But there is no doubt that it is these
men who
> > > > threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that the teams
> > play
> > > > sincerely.
> > > >
> > > > And for those who think that standing next to Hasina or
Khaleda
> > is a
> > > > greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus, Dr
> > Fakhruddin or
> > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if your dreams come true, the
future
> > > > still does not belong to you.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > Kuwait
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir
faruquealamgir@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS THEM AS THE GREATEST INTELIGENT SO THE
CASE
> > > > WITH OUR FRIEND....................................
> > > > >
> > > > > Faruque Alamgir
> > > > >
> > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi s_ayubi786@
> > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech
> > > > was an excellent one. Why nitwits like yourself criticise him
is
> > > > beyond my comprehension. Instead of using a very famous man's
name
> > > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name. You are
> > > > disgracing a great man. You with your level of intelligence
will
> > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man achieved in his
> > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding people. I do not
feel
> > > > that the country is safe in the hands of our kind of
politicians,
> > > > most of whom do not have the basic education behind them. Era
> > shobai
> > > > foot pather neta. bhalo kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho eder
> > > > akebarei nei.
> > > > > .
> > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Tue, 5/13/08, mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@
> > > > > Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made us
laugh by
> > > > your sermon
> > > > > To: tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com, chottala@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > khabor@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > vinnomot@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
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