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Wednesday, September 10, 2008

[ALOCHONA] Re: Was Bangabandu like Castro of Cuba?

Dear Alochok Turkman

I did have an idea that Russia was pro Bangladesh but I had no
knowledge of most of the facts that you have stated here. Thanks for
the update.

On a lighter note the Russians would have been able to control
Bangaldesh more easily than other countries... we just love to vote
for anyone who builds a few roads and a half baked clinic just before
election time :)

Regards

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, S Turkman <turkman@...> wrote:
>
> Sir,
> I think, you don't know, USSR was backing Sh. Mujib. Soviet
Engineers were rebuilding and expanding Sylhet Airport and a part of
Soviet Naval Fleet was docked in Chittagong Harbor. Soviet
Infrastructure Builders were exploring Bangladesh to chart-out, what
other projects had to be started.
>  
> Soviets could have invaded Bangladesh but couldn't because the Sh.
Mujib had not declared the country Communist yet and she was not yet
a member of Communist International. USSR was relectant to invest in
Moslim Countries by then because all such countries had kicked it out
after getting their Infrastructure built and receiving tons of
Military Aid. Iraq and Egypt were the biggest example of that.
>  
> Soviet, Cuban an East German Troops were in 19 African Countries
from Equatorial Africa to Libya at that time but they had come to
conclusion that they should not have intervened until there was a
grass-root Communist Movement in those countries. Therefore, they had
already pulling-out their troops from Africa and cutting-down their
waste.  
>
> --- On Tue, 9/9/08, ezajur <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Alochok Turkman
>
> Good points! Though of course you know I am referring to Castro's
> more negative traits - secret police, supreme authority, no
political
> parties, no press freedom etc etc. As you know these were the
> emerging traits of Sheikh Mujib and hence the comparison.
>
> Many of the successes of Castro's Cuba would not have been possible
> without the Russia's deep vested interest in its stability.
> Bangladesh had no such well wisher. Not even India. And these
> successes also depended on Castro's continued leadership and
> administrative skills. Some 30-40% of Mujib's followers deserted
him
> following his administrative failures.
>
> He is like Castro when we compare their negatives.
>
> Mujib's departure was the second biggest tragedy of Desh.
>
> Mujib's departure from the principles that led to the War of
> Independence was the biggest tragedy of Desh. It set the stage and
> the tone for all the abysmal failures that have followed since.
>
> Sigh!
>
> Regards
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, S Turkman <turkman@ > wrote:
> >
> > Yeah but Bangladesh would then have highest Literacy Rate in the
> world like Cuba and would not have been one of the poorest country
on
> earth either.
> >  
> > Cuba is 6 times richer than Bangladesh, Education and Medical is
> free, Un-employment Rate is near Zero, Housing is free, nobody is
> poor in Cuba and has more Ph.Ds, Physicians, Surgeons and Engineers
> per Capita than any other country on earth. Actually, Cuba lends
her
> Physicians and Engineers to friendly countries for free. Do we have
> any Physicians and Engineers to lend?
> >  
> > If he was like Castro, his departure was the biggest tragedy
> Bangladesh had faced and his Assassins were the biggest Enemies of
> Bangla.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/31/08, ezajur <ezajur.rahman@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Had Mujib lived he would have continued as a dictator - not like
> > Mussolini (come on!) but as a Fidel Castro (bad enough!)
> >
> > Though after seeing all the pompous AL middlemen strutting around
> in
> > their black waistcoats on National Mourning Day, as if all their
> > years of lies and thievery were vindicated, made me feel that we
> > should call them - the Black Coats, quite a Fascist term!
> >
> > Pity our poor country. Even our heros are killers or thieves.
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, mahathir of bd
> > <wouldbemahathirofb d@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Reading mujib's lectures and seeing his failure na d fate, it
> > seems to me that Mujib was a boss, not a leader.
> > >  
> > >  Becuase leaders never loss there popularity to such a low
level
> > that Mujib lost.
> > >
> > > http://www.microsco piceye.blogspot. com/
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 8/15/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bangabandu, Vs. Mousalini of Italy, Striking Similarities:
> Please
> > Read!
> > > Abid Bahar
> > >  
> > > Bangabandu's Fourth Amendment is only the tip of the form of
> > his "dictatorship. "(1) There are more details, the use of Mujib
> > dress, Mujib Bahini, Lal bahini, Rakhi bahini and other
> paramilitary
> > forces, the extreme hero-worship tendency among his followers,
> > indiscriminate killing of the opponents, arresting even the
elderly
> > statesman like Bhasani, favouratism to its party members,  and so
> > many other similarities  with Mousalini, the Italian leader and
> > with Spain's Francisco that when I found out,  I personally  was
> > shocked (I was a former Mujib -lover)and have been writing
> eversince
> > about the sickness. 
> > >  
> > >  I asked myself, howcome there are so many similarities in a
> > country far away from Europe. The answer I found is in political
> > Science such a political trend is identified
> > as Fascism. Mousalini even did similar things like Bangabandu
> did,
> > the latter standing in the parliament, declared that he
> > couldn't use "Lal Ghora,"which he actually did but he wanted it
> to
> > be more severe on the opponents. 
> > >  
> > > There are also many similarities between Bangabandu's BAKSAL
and
> > other Third World Fascists as Sadam's socialist bath party, the
> > Sheikh boys (Mujib's Chalara) carrying guns at the university,
and
> > now Africa's Mugabe a former freedom fighter, Idi Amin, another
> > freedom fighter turning into a Fascist, it is unthinkable. Unlike
> > them, after the 7th March Speech, Bangabandu actually
collaborated
> > with the Pak Army send Rao Farman Ali to Islamabad to save
> Pakistan
> > and later was fooled and surrendered and stayed the entire period
> in
> > Pakistan. He never talked about why did he surrender.  If
> > Bangabandu's AL didn't have the theoritical backing/blessings
from
> > our intellectual West Bengali and the Delhi based Dadas that AL
is
> > a "progressive force", civil  society, fighting against Nizami,
> and
> > that Bangabandu the father etc, etc.propaganda  via the pro-
Indian
> > Bangladeshi powerful medias as Daily Star and Prothom Alo etc,
> > he would be officially discredited as
> > > one of the fighters for democracy who betrayed the nation
> to turn
> > himself into a dictator and was killed similarly as Mousolini. In
> > Europe the above type of people are classified as the Fascist
> > leaders. They are discredited in the textbook for committing
> > excesses.
> > >  
> > > It is true, mentioned in the Abul Mansur Ahamed's Amer Dhaka
> > Rajnitir Ponchas Botscher and in Azizul Karim's work "From Awami
> > League to BAKSAL" that Bangaban du "did not have a clear idea
> about
> > the difference between party and the state. This became clear
even
> in
> > 1956-57 when he deferred with the then Chief Minister Mr. Ataur
> > Rahman Khan. Mr. Khan wanted to keep the administration totally
> > neutral. He knew that if the administration were brought under
the
> > party control then it would be difficult to run the
administration
> > efficiently. But Sheikh Mujib refuted his contention and
said, "The
> > administration has to accept party domination. Not only that
> > administration will just help and assist the party to execute its
> > policies, but the administration will also be helping in
increasing
> > its influence among the people". Mr. Ataur Rahman Khan had to
> > surrender to Sheikh Mujib as he was then considered very powerful
> in
> > the party. Thus during this time Sheikh Mujibur
> > > Rahman as the Minister of Commerce and Industries indulged in
> > rampant corruption, nepotism and misuse of power. He used his
power
> > in giving out permits, licenses, bank loans, and sanction to
> > establish industries to people who were loyal to him and his
> > cronies."(2) These were the early signs of the then Mujib's
Fascist
> > tendencies.
> > >
> > > For the sake of knowledge, Social Scientists have to identify
> this
> > trend and locate the father of this trend in Bangladesh. It was
> this
> > type of extremism in Italy that led to Mousalini's death, and the
> end
> > of Francisco. Like Musolini, to unite people in the independent
> > Bangladesh Bangaband u also used extreme nationalism causing the
> > alienation of the tribals.
> > >  
> > > Hasina carries the legacy of Bangabandu. Hasina's AL with its
> > Shaschasevok bahini and its alliance of parties (which is
> > practically the BAKSAL) continues the trend of anarchy.
> > >  
> > > Like Bangabandu, Hasina also gives more importance to the party
> > interest to gain power than give importance to national
> > interest. Hasina' s year round hartal to tire the nation, caused
> the
> > cancellation of 1996 election that led to the first coming of the
> > care-taker government and again in 2007 the chaos led to 1/11 
and
> > the army backed caretaker government and the uncertainity in the
> > nation's life.
> > >  
> > > (1) Please check the following videos to see that until this
> trend
> > is not discredited, Bangladesh will have no future!
> > >  It is infactious, nowadays everybody is doing it.
> > >  
> > > (2) I want the readers to please check the historic
similarities
> > between Bangabandu Mujib and Mosoluni.  We live in an independent
> > country, the Fascist chaos of madness against order must be
> stopped.
> > Bangabandu should be given credit for what he deserve but his
> fascist
> > tendency should be identified and discouraged as being regressive
> to
> > Bangladesh's future development. 
> > >  
> > > Videos on party initiated violence in Bangladesh:
>

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