Sir,
I think, more than a couple of years ago I had posted, who I was. I
think, you missed it. I left Dacca in 1971 just before Indian
Invasion and my relatives still live in Dacca and Rajshahi.
Yes there's a little Interest charged by IMF and World Bank. It
ranges from half percent to 5%. If Bangladesh does not want to pay
Interest, she should not apply for such loans but could you please
tell me, which instalments of these loans have been paid by
Bangladesh by earning a Net Balance of Payment since her birth?
All Instalments have been paid out of the same loans or more loans
have been taken out to pay the instalments. Not a single penny has
been paid so for out of Net Foreignf Exchange Earnings because we had
no such earnings since out birth.
Billions of dollars worth of loans have been forgiven by USA, Japan
and other European countries. Please tell me, how those loans or Aid
Charities have hurt Bangladesh ...!
Do you really think, I'm stupid and don't have right information?
If you are a real Moslim, how come you are propagating lies about IMF
and World Bank, where our own Bangladeshis in high postions are
making sure that our interests are not hurt?
Do you have any shame sir?
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Mohammad Hossain" <MHossain@...>
wrote:
>> Mr. Turkman:
>
>
>
> Your comments to this forum is irrelevant. You have been less than
a
> professional in your attitude and behavior when critiquing other
> alochock's postings in this forum. Time and time again you have
called
> everyone but yourself a liar. I just wonder what makes you so
special
> that you keep pounding everybody with your gung-ho attitude and
> obnoxious comments. You have turned yourself into an equal
opportunity
> offender. Let's talk about reducing poverty and increasing
opportunity
> for common Bangladeshi's.
>
>
>
> The personal opinion (not a religious edict!) of a relatively
unknown
> scholar in Saudi Arabia has no bearing on the common citizens in
> Bangladesh. They couldn't care less.
>
>
>
> Now, you want to close all Saudi supported schools and programs in
> Bangladesh. This is an indication how shallow you are. My friend,
do
> not throw stone at others when you live in a glass house. You have
not
> still identified yourself, with your true name even after repeated
calls
> from the forum participants. Do you want us to trust you? Then
> positively identify yourself. I wouldn't be surprised to learn
that you
> are a foreign agent paid by CIA, Mossad or RAW.
>
>
>
> Bangladesh is an open democratic Muslim society and it will remain
so no
> matter what Saudi's say or do. I agree with Cyrus that the posting
on
> ethanol was unnecessary if not totally irrelevant for this forum.
> Again, Saudi have nothing to do with our social and political
ills. We
> have enough of our homegrown so called political leaders that have
> caused havoc on society.
>
>
>
> You should know that no money comes without strings. If you feel
Saudi
> money is bad think about interest bearing IMF/World Bank money.
Just
> think what World Bank and IMF has done to the finances of the third
> world countries all over the world. No country wants their interest
> bearing funds with so many strings and so much bureaucratic control.
> And that's the reason that China is funding most of the project in
> Africa and other third world countries in Africa.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Nurul Hossain
>
> U.S.A.
>
>
>
> From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of turkman@...
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:42 AM
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in Bio-
fuels is
> sinful
>
>
>
> No its not un-necessary to post, how stupid are Wahabi Mollaas
> because they are spending tons of money to convert Moslims to their
> kind of Islam. We must learn everything about them so, we can ban
> Saudi Funding of Religious Schools in our country.
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alochona%
40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Cyrus <thoughtocrat@> wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Haque, thanks for your posting. Do you mind telling me what
> makes you think that I am not a "believer"? I am assuming that
> by "believer", you are referring to being a Muslim. I could be
wrong
> and you probably meant something else.
> >
> > You are correct in saying that this is just an opinion. But in a
> land of anarchy where the only opinions that matter are the
opinions
> of the monarchy and the religious council, any "opinion" is a
> dictation to many people in the world, especially to those who look
> to Saudi Arabia for guidance and direction.
> >
> > Frankly, I think the whole posting is unnecessary. We are not
> Saudis and what the Saudi scholars say has no relevance to our
> problems.
> >
> > Cyrus
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mohd. Haque <haquetm83@>
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alochona%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:00:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in
Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Being a Muslim I have taken what the so called Saudi scholar said
> as an opinion, I wouldn't take it as fatwa (Islamic ruling) though
as
> mentioned he is from the fiqh academy. Even if he had claimed it as
> fatwa, yet it wouldn't bother me much. When it is a human judgment
it
> should have its limitation and you weigh his opinion according to
> your own understanding on the matter.
> > The Holy Quran prescribe Freedom of Speech, he has said what he
> think he should say, take it or leave it. Perhaps your
disparagement
> here is unnecessary. Since you are not a believer it shouldn't have
> bothered you in the first place.
> >
> > It bothered you or the scorn derived from, very likely, something
> else. Wish you only good.
> >
> > Haque
> >
> > --- On Tue, 24/2/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in
Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Tuesday, 24 February, 2009, 11:05 AM
> >
> >
> > Next time one of these morons is sick, and goes to the hospital
for
> treatment, I want him to refuse anything alcohol based for
anesthesia
> or sterilization. I want the doctors to operate on him without any
> narcotic or painkillers to reduce pain, as they are also "haram" in
> Quran because they can impair your judgment. Only then he would
> understand that their meaningless propaganda of the last millennium
> is irrelevant. Funny thing is, no one mentions that Hazrat Omar was
> actually an alcoholic (as well as a megalomaniac) , and that the
> Semitic tribes during Prophet Mohammed's time traded wine, as well
as
> served them at family gatherings and parties. Oh, I am sorry....you
> didn't know that Prophet Mohammed was also a "Semite"? And you
> thought that only the Jews are the Semites?
> >
> > Religion is the enemy of science. And if I have to choose between
> faith, religion, and the teachings of some puritanical mollahs and
> science, I pick science.
> > C
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail. com>
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:55:58 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in
Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> >
> >
> > It would have been more appropriate if the citing was about the
> destruction of human food to produce biofuels in order to feed the
> vehicles. Where as the world is facing the acute shortage of human
> foods in many parts of the world, the obligation of the rich
> countries would have been to preserve more and more human foods,
and
> even if they sell instead of donating, millions of human lives
would
> have been saved. Cellulose biofuel production is alright because in
> that process human foods are not used; but producing biofuel using
> human food is extremely unethical.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: rkhundkar@earthlink .net
> > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:31:55 -0500
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Saudi Arabian scholar Warns: Alcohol in Bio-
> fuels is sinful
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Saudi Muslim cleric warns that biofuels could be sinful
> > By Eoin O'Carroll | 02.20.09
> > http://features. csmonitor. com/environment/ 2009/02/20/ saudi-
> muslim- cleric-warns- that-biofuels- could-be- sinful/A prominent
> Muslim scholar in Saudi Arabia has warned that those using alcohol-
> based biofuels in their cars could be committing a sin.
> > The warning was issued by Sheikh Mohamed Al-Najimi, a member of
the
> Islamic Fiqh Academy, an institute that studies Islamic
jurisprudence
> for the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, an international
> group with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. According
to
> the Al Arabiya News Channel, an international news outlet is based
in
> Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Mr. Najim directed his warning to
Saudi
> youths studying abroad.
> > Al Arabiya notes that Najimi stressed that this warning was not
an
> official fatwa, or religious edict, just his personal opinion.
Najimi
> added that the issue "needs to be studied by the relevant religious
> bodies."
> > Ethanol, a common type of biofuel, is made of the same type of
> alcohol found in alcoholic beverages, and its production is similar
> to that of hard liquor. Plant matter is fermented using yeast, and
> the result is distilled to increase the concentration of alcohol.
> > Fuels with high concentrations of ethanol - the most common being
> E85, a gasoline blend with 85 percent ethanol - can be used in flex-
> fuel vehicles, which make up more than seven million of the roughly
> 250 million passenger cars and trucks on America's roads. Most
> gasoline sold in the United States contains about 10 percent
ethanol.
> The fuel is more common in many Latin American countries,
> particularly Brazil.
> > In addition to beverages and biofuels, ethanol is a widely used
in
> industry for its properties as a solvent and an antiseptic. It's a
> common component of perfumes and paints. The chemical is also
> necessary in the production of vinegar - one of the Prophet
> Muhammad's favorite seasonings.
> > The Koran prohibits consumption of alcohol in three separate
verses
> that were written over a period of several years. The first mention
> occurs in 4:43, in which Muslims are told that they must not pray
> while intoxicated. A verse written later - 2:219 - says that in
wine
> and gambling "is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin
is
> greater than the profit." Finally, in 5:90-91, intoxicants and
> gambling are called "an abomination" and "Satan's handiwork":
> >
> > Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you,
with
> intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of
> Allah, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain?
> > This admonition is waived in the hereafter, apparently: Many
> passages in the Islamic holy book describe heaven as having rivers
of
> wine.
> > Ironically, it was Muslim chemists who introduced distillation to
> the West. The process of distilling pure ethanol from wine was
> perfected by 8th- and 9th-century Persian chemists, who used it to
> create perfumes and eyeliner. Their writings were translated by
> European scholars in the 12th century, and the process was used to
> make potable spirits. The word "alcohol" is itself of Arabic origin.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
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